jignrap
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| 23 Feb 2012 04:33 PM |
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Wow. I've been a life member for years now, and I get a postcard in the mail saying I need to reactivate or I will lose my life member benefits. When I signed up, the guy on the phone promised me a rod and reel combo. Then, when I called a couple months later, they told me I didn't qualify because I got a "discount" life membership. This has got to be about the lamest organization ever.
At least, years ago, the magazine was decent entertainment. The average number of pages per issue has decreased from around 100 to about 60 or 70, and much of it is now full-page ads. Most of the articles tell me I need to have a slew of special rods and fancy reels, then go on to list about every type of lure imaginable as something to try. Whatever happened to good outdoor writing? Oh, yeah, I also have a smartphone and 2 or 3 GPS/sonar units in my $50,000 boat, pulled by my high dollar pickup. Oh, and I get to fish in all these great places 1000 miles from my home. Sheesh!
The other "benefits" aren't really of much use to me. I tried field testing a couple of products, and got some $2 packages of lures that didn't work worth a hill of beans. The other benefits, I could care less. Anyway, back to my original topic, yes, I reactivated. You got my money, so your durn right I want to at least keep getting the magazine. I'm sure it will be coming soon that the paper magazine will cease to exist and everything will be on the web/phone apps. I suppose a guy will have to get a laptop next to the toilet to replace the old-fashioned stack of fishing mags, eh? Give me a break.
By the way, I still fish the same way I did before I became a member and catch just as many fish as I did then. Rant over. |
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mo65
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| 23 Feb 2012 05:20 PM |
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OK...think I get it now. I noticed this is your first post jignrap, I'm thinking they're sending postcards to non-active life members wanting them to reactivate. I haven't got a postcard, and when I checked that ACTIVATE tab, it said I was "already active". If this is the case...its a bunch of crap! You bought your life membership...it shouldn't need to be reactivated. And I have never heard of a "discount" life membership, how much does that go for? Web Guy Greg was the only one around here that would have straightened this out, but he is gone. How about Kurt Beckstrom, or Jim Edlund, are you guys still alive? I would like to here some answers on this...I'm sure some others would too!  |
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Captain Quantum
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| 23 Feb 2012 05:57 PM |
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I think what is alarming is the fact that the Powers that Be are able to change whatever they want, whenever they want without any warning and without any say from us members. We paid our dues, a lot of money actually if you're a Life or Trophy Member, and I do think we deserve a little more respect sometimes. |
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kjb
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| 23 Feb 2012 07:38 PM |
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What's up with the updating the info post card, I just got the package for the master angler line a few weeks ago, they knew where to send that, I DON'T GET IT |
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jignrap
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| 23 Feb 2012 07:40 PM |
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Thanks, guys. I know it's not cool for a guy to just begin using a site and start to rant, but that's half my point. I've been a life member for I don't know, close to 10 yrs now, and a member for quite a while before, and after all that I get told to "reactivate". Anyway, it seem like they are inventing ways to either try to get more money from us (more and more elite levels of membership) or reduce their costs (make the magazine smaller and try to get rid of "inactive" life members). Hey, if you business model didn't work out right, don't take it out on us - we paid our money and are owed a decent product - for life! Maybe the honchos need to stop flying all over the continent for their fishing trips and reinvest in the company. OK, OK, I'll simmer down now, I promise. |
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Pegsguy
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| 23 Feb 2012 07:57 PM |
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BTW, Jim Edlund is now gone from here also |
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mo65
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| 23 Feb 2012 08:22 PM |
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Posted By Pegsguy on 23 Feb 2012 08:57 PM
BTW, Jim Edlund is now gone from here also
Hmm...guess he slipped out the back door...don't remember seeing any notice of that in the forums...but it does fall right into what we're saying here.  |
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Captain Quantum
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| 24 Feb 2012 12:47 AM |
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I would like to thank you jignrap for stating your dilemma in such a way that avoided cursing and name calling. We have had enough of that as of late with a few "disgruntled members"(NAFC=SCAM was his username). Why don't you try hanging around on the site for a while? There are some good guys on here. |
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mr bill
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| 24 Feb 2012 06:11 PM |
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well guys i just got my card today and trying to figure out what the heck i'm to do here on line. i've been a member for about 30yrs now and a lifer member for about 22 of them. the card says i can take care of this on line, but have no clue where to do this at.
well at last until they finally tell me by, i'll still be around ta give ya all nitemares.....lol |
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mr bill
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| 24 Feb 2012 06:30 PM |
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ok i think i found it.....so i guess i can stay......heheheheheheheeee |
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scottlu
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| 27 Feb 2012 01:54 PM |
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i don`t come on here very often the main reason is i usually have no idea how. but in the last 6 years i`ve slowly found out some of the things dealing with online. it is hard for a 72 year old to pick up some of this jargen. for me a little instruction would be nice but again i`m just 1 person. forgive me guys i`m just rambling. thats one of the perks of age. capt quantum i appreciate your words about cursing & 4 letter words . i`m sure we have ladies & i dislike using foul language in mixed company. i like every bodies comments. old boy from lake of the ozarks now living in west tx |
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the rod tosser
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| 29 Feb 2012 10:14 AM |
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yea I don't really under stand the activate thing either. You would think once they took your money you would be automatically activated. From a business point of view though think of all the money and crap I can save if you don't . You will not be eligible for the contests .
Perhaps they want to offer us more benefits but more then most likely not . I am still waiting for the lots more to come from being a trophy member . At least that is what the flyer told us .
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turnip
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| 29 Feb 2012 02:06 PM |
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Hey Trev, I saw the Trophy thing coming! That's why I didn't join...Let me know when & if you get some GOOD benifits! |
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ERABBIT
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| 01 Mar 2012 08:21 AM |
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Just saying not sure but..................my brother Stan just passed away , he was a Life Member , could this just be away of finding out your still alive ???? How else could they know when a member passes ???? |
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turnip
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| 01 Mar 2012 09:56 AM |
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Good point! |
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mo65
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| 01 Mar 2012 10:02 AM |
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Hope that's not the case...I've already WILLED my life membership to my son!  hehehehe! |
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ERABBIT
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| 01 Mar 2012 10:54 AM |
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Life Membership would normally be $299, but we'll give you a "dues rebate" for all the dues you've paid in the past to encourage you to make this lifelong commitment to the enjoyment of fishing. With a VALUE OF OVER $1,010.00, it's a great deal for you!
I can find this but nothing about "dicounted" member ship !!!! |
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Big_Bad_John
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| 02 Mar 2012 01:39 PM |
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this is a bunch of crap, why should i have to reactivate a life membership, i paid for life so just send me my stuff and stop asking me to reactivate a darn thing.
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Big_Bad_John
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| 02 Mar 2012 01:40 PM |
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this is a bunch of crap, why should i have to reactivate a life membership, i paid for life so just send me my stuff and stop asking me to reactivate a darn thing.
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wharris4
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| 03 Mar 2012 08:47 AM |
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Hey mo good to here from you. I did not know that "Web Guy" Greg Huff had left, what for ? I have been reading the forums and judging by what I've been reading, Getting a life membership was a bad idea on my part, I hope not. Thanks for the info.
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jbird68
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| 03 Mar 2012 07:31 PM |
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What extra does the Trophy membership get you? When I signed up there was only Life Members and "Pay as you go" members. Now they added this Trophy Level. |
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Kurt Beckstrom
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| 06 Mar 2012 04:10 PM |
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Hey All:
Those postcards some of you received were meant to try to determine who among the LMs is no longer an active participant in the NAFC anymore, either by choice or (let's face it) because they aren't around anymore. The cards were aimed at folks we haven't heard from in a few years. Did somebody get one that shouldn't have? I'm sure that happened. Even computers make mistakes, after all. If you received a card, just go online, or make the call and let us know you're still in. Then, toss it and get back to fishing.
Kurt--NAF Editor
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rich117
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| 14 Mar 2012 07:32 PM |
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I been got the postcard too , I thought it was stupid been a life member almost 15 years. they stopped sending feild testing products 5 years ago I wrote to the club they told me I would be next on list, that was 2 years ago. they just want to dump us old guys and get new cash customers thats why they came up with the trophy life member for more money. they said betterfield testing products . but anything is better than nothing; like I get now |
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Bob La Londe
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| 15 Mar 2012 12:27 AM |
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Posted By rich117 on 14 Mar 2012 08:32 PM
I been got the postcard too , I thought it was stupid been a life member almost 15 years. they stopped sending feild testing products 5 years ago I wrote to the club they told me I would be next on list, that was 2 years ago. they just want to dump us old guys and get new cash customers thats why they came up with the trophy life member for more money. they said betterfield testing products . but anything is better than nothing; like I get now I am also a life member. I'm also a life member of BASS, AMA, ABATE of Az, & HOG. NAFC is the only one I've heard of that wants life members to renew their membership. ROFL. I also have not received any field test items in several years, and I never got anything good to try even when I did. I do have a letter somewhere that says it has important information about my life member benefits. I suppose I better go dig it out so I can ateast continue to receive my magazine. Gotta have something for the bathroom since Sears doesn't send out catalogs anymore. |
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Captain Quantum
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| 15 Mar 2012 12:35 AM |
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Posted By Bob La Londe on 15 Mar 2012 01:27 AM
Posted By rich117 on 14 Mar 2012 08:32 PM
I been got the postcard too , I thought it was stupid been a life member almost 15 years. they stopped sending feild testing products 5 years ago I wrote to the club they told me I would be next on list, that was 2 years ago. they just want to dump us old guys and get new cash customers thats why they came up with the trophy life member for more money. they said betterfield testing products . but anything is better than nothing; like I get now I am also a life member. I'm also a life member of BASS, AMA, ABATE of Az, & HOG. NAFC is the only one I've heard of that wants life members to renew their membership. ROFL.
I also have not received any field test items in several years, and I never got anything good to try even when I did.
I do have a letter somewhere that says it has important information about my life member benefits. I suppose I better go dig it out so I can ateast continue to receive my magazine. Gotta have something for the bathroom since Sears doesn't send out catalogs anymore.
Hey, just to help you out, that letter might tell you that you need to update your "Product Testing Profile." If you don't resubmit your profile after you receive a test product then you won't get anything new to test! You should definitely dig out that piece of paper dude!  |
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the rod tosser
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| 15 Mar 2012 07:48 AM |
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on a further note make sure your still registered for field testing they updated the field test questionnaire and you may have gotten dumped and are no longer registered.
That's what i discovered when i checked it out . |
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Bob La Londe
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| 17 Mar 2012 09:40 PM |
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Well, I just dug it out of my stack of read later mail. Turned out to be a junk mail to upgrade to a "trophy" life membership.
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www.YumaBassMan.com
Support the future of bass fishing. Join a draw team (Pro/Am) club.
www.YumaProAm.com
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fb213
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| 21 Mar 2012 05:14 PM |
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i too have not received products to test since trophy membership has arrived. have been a life member at least 10 yrs. it says i am on list for product testing soon. |
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wineguy
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| 21 Mar 2012 06:30 PM |
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Well guys, I too am a long time life member (1996) and also upgraded to Trophy Life Member status. I have received the promised bonus gifts and such and I have "field tested" a cool topwater bait many years ago. I remember getting it right before a family (fun) fishing trip to Minnesota. When it came I thought the lure was much too big to be effective on our little lake, but I gave it a go anyway. It was awesome!!! I caught a 6# Walleye (on a topwater bait) and more than a few good sized largemouth bass that week. The only thing I noticed was I had no way to send my "field test" results to the club. I really think the "field test" idea is to bait us fishermen and women to feel there is a "value added" aspect to the club. I enjoy reading and playing with the on-line stuff, it keeps me interested in those nasty winter months. Keep up the Faith!! Remember a bad day fishing (or being part of this club) beats a good day working!! |
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gonfishin
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| 23 Mar 2012 12:33 PM |
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I have been a member of B.A.S.S. 29 years and a Life Member 28 years. Aside from the lure package I received when I paid off my life membership dues and my monthly magazines I have not received any gifts from them. I get an offer to buy their yearly planners once a year which I get because I like the format of the planner. I have been a life member of NAFC for about 4 years now and for the most part I have been satisfied with my membership after working out a few bugs with them. I have received all the promised gifts I was told I would get and other good stuff. I do get annoyed with the repeated offers for Trophy Life Memberships. Items I have ordered have arrived earlier than promised and in good shape. Ha ha ha. I am not a robot plugging for NAFC.  Former career military, 18 year vet of Army and Air Force. Vietnam Vet. 91st Evac Hospital (M A S H) Chi Lai 1970-1971 Tight lines to all. gonfishin |
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U S Army '69-'71, Sp.5, 91st Med Evacuation Hospital (M.A.S.H) Chu Lai, Vietnam, '70-'71. U S Air Force '73-'89, SSGT. N A F C Life Member Since May, 2008, B A S S Life Member Since '85, M M, York Rite, K T The only ones you have to get even with are the ones that helped you when you were down. Brave Rifles. |
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Mr. Blank
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| 24 Mar 2012 07:18 PM |
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Heh, I'm a brand new member and got an email offering me "discounted Life Member" dues. Now that I've read this, I think I'll just wait and see what happens. |
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gonfishin
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| 24 Mar 2012 10:00 PM |
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Hello Mr. Blank, welcome to the club.
Tightlines,
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gonfishin
U S Army '69-'71, Sp.5, 91st Med Evacuation Hospital (M.A.S.H) Chu Lai, Vietnam, '70-'71. U S Air Force '73-'89, SSGT. N A F C Life Member Since May, 2008, B A S S Life Member Since '85, M M, York Rite, K T The only ones you have to get even with are the ones that helped you when you were down. Brave Rifles. |
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turnip
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| 25 Mar 2012 04:52 AM |
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Hi there Mr. Blank, welcome to the club! I hope your experience here is a good one! |
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mo65
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| 25 Mar 2012 05:44 AM |
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Hey Mr. Blank...loose your key to the chatroom? Hee hee...stop back in sometime!  |
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the rod tosser
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| 28 Mar 2012 11:49 PM |
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MR BANKS
They usually apply what you have already paid yearly membership to your life member ship .
I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO GO LIFE . the benafits they mention are marginal at best . BUT THE TRUE VALUE OF THIS CLUB IS THE MEMBERS
YOU will never find such a great group of folks . use chat use the web sight use face book make as many friends as you can that is were the club shines the most with its ability to connect you to other people that love what you love . I have bartered, traded , received. given ,tout ,learned, stayed out of town , been guided , all because of the friends i have made .
The members here are the best .
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Captain Quantum
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| 28 Mar 2012 11:59 PM |
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I fear that one day the club will just shut down the entire site without notice and merely rely on Facebook instead. Its not too far fetched if you think about it. They don't care about this site. With the departure of Web Guy Greg, this site is like a town in the old west without a marshal. |
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the rod tosser
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| 29 Mar 2012 09:39 AM |
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I highly dought it and here is why, ADVERTISEMENT space, why did they go to face book it was smart business.
more customers = more folks to see the adds . Just a different revenue source . The more folks that belong to and get the NAFC MAG the more folks want there adds placed in my mag and the more They can charge for those adds to be placed. JUST SMART BUSINESS. |
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desert rat
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| 29 Mar 2012 12:41 PM |
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i have upgraded my field tester profile a couple times and then a couple months ago i went to upgrade it again and it said i had not upgraded my profile since 09.  i didn't join for the freebies but i have many friends here (and for that......I THANK GOD)  |
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jtaylor23
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| 29 Mar 2012 11:56 PM |
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Hello desert rat, every time you up date your feild test profile it puts you on the bottom of the list ( or thats what i have been told ) so you migth want to wait until you get something to test before you change your profile. JOHN |
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desert rat
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| 07 Apr 2012 03:21 PM |
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the club told me that i needed to update it as it had been awhile since i had done it
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retired-psg
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| 10 Apr 2012 11:16 AM |
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Posted By desert rat on 29 Mar 2012 01:41 PM
i have upgraded my field tester profile a couple times and then a couple months ago i went to upgrade it again and it said i had not upgraded my profile since 09. i didn't join for the freebies but i have many friends here (and for that......I THANK GOD)
You can either call them 1-800# or send them an E-mail and ask them whats going on! Wouldn't be the first time wrong info was sent out! |
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docque
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| 18 Apr 2012 09:03 AM |
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I am not sure how long I have been a life member. I assume about 15 to 20 years. I have never received a field test item, but that doesn't matter. I was supposed to get a free gift when I joined, but never did and that didn't matter.
I used to read the magazine from cover to cover. I usually turned to the last page to read the funny stories, but they went away. I learned tons from the magazine.
Then my health started failing and I couldn't fish any more (it sucks when I am only 46). But the magazine comes on a regular basis. I hand it off to my Grandson and now he reads it from cover to cover. I am hoping to get back on the water this year because he wants to go after whales (he is young) and he doesn't have a Father around. |
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turnip
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| 18 Apr 2012 10:41 AM |
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docque
, where are you located? If you could give us a general idea perhaps there is a member near by that would be willing to help you out! |
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fisherman530
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| 04 Jun 2012 10:52 AM |
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i think sometimes people expect WAY TO MUCH out of their life membership. just be happy to be a life member and enjoy what they send you. post on the site, send emails, take advantage of the CHAT room and meet fellow anglers. Everything will be OK. |
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grapefruit998
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| 25 Jun 2012 06:37 PM |
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lol it took me about that time to get a test product it took a few months aftewr i brought life |
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docque
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| 01 Aug 2012 07:46 AM |
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I know people in the area, but I would prefer to take him out for a little quality time. That way he will remember the good times when this disease takes me out. |
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jweeks
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| 03 Aug 2012 07:35 PM |
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they didn't send any books or anything just magazines? |
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turnip
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| 04 Aug 2012 10:37 AM |
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I don't regret going "lifer", but I do regret the condition of the website... |
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retired-psg
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| 15 Aug 2012 10:33 AM |
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Pete same here!
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docque
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| 20 Aug 2012 01:28 PM |
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The sent nothing to me at all. I just got the magazines. Well, I did get the sticker that is on a vehicle I no longer have. lol |
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Porterhouse1989
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| 21 Aug 2012 11:30 AM |
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i keep hearing all this junk about how the club is terrible i have missed this where is my free that all im gonna say is that i have been a member for a lil over 2 months now i have got the free hooks and bobbers even a two fillet knive set and a scale a rapala lure and extra stickers oh and the magazine and i got all this because i call and i talk to the reps on the phone im nice and i have told them i need more stickers because i want all my vehicles and boat to say that im an official member of the NAFC that is advertizing folks the more ppl see this the more ppl will look for how to join there fore more members more money so i got some free stuff its pretty nice if you ask me but thats not y i love this group already the reason is i have learned so much over the last few monthes from these forums and groups plus ive made some friends and we share stories and tricks for fishing hell if u ask me i have ripped the club off not the other way around this is one HAPPY member of the NAFC thanks to all that support this club if you dont like it stop logging in to complain about it and call the reps at the number on the back of your members card |
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fisherfanatic
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| 21 Aug 2012 02:49 PM |
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Posted By jignrap on 23 Feb 2012 05:33 PM
Wow. I've been a life member for years now, and I get a postcard in the mail saying I need to reactivate or I will lose my life member benefits. When I signed up, the guy on the phone promised me a rod and reel combo. Then, when I called a couple months later, they told me I didn't qualify because I got a "discount" life membership. This has got to be about the lamest organization ever.
At least, years ago, the magazine was decent entertainment. The average number of pages per issue has decreased from around 100 to about 60 or 70, and much of it is now full-page ads. Most of the articles tell me I need to have a slew of special rods and fancy reels, then go on to list about every type of lure imaginable as something to try. Whatever happened to good outdoor writing? Oh, yeah, I also have a smartphone and 2 or 3 GPS/sonar units in my $50,000 boat, pulled by my high dollar pickup. Oh, and I get to fish in all these great places 1000 miles from my home. Sheesh!
The other "benefits" aren't really of much use to me. I tried field testing a couple of products, and got some $2 packages of lures that didn't work worth a hill of beans. The other benefits, I could care less. Anyway, back to my original topic, yes, I reactivated. You got my money, so your durn right I want to at least keep getting the magazine. I'm sure it will be coming soon that the paper magazine will cease to exist and everything will be on the web/phone apps. I suppose a guy will have to get a laptop next to the toilet to replace the old-fashioned stack of fishing mags, eh? Give me a break.
By the way, I still fish the same way I did before I became a member and catch just as many fish as I did then. Rant over. Wow, you really got cheated! I've been a member for 3 years and have only received only one product test, so you aren't alone. I have also realized lately that I'm somewhat "lucky", as some members have been with the club for as long as I have and have never received a product test. Currently, I am paying $18 a year for the magazine and use of the club forums.  |
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fisherfanatic
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Posted By turnip on 04 Aug 2012 11:37 AM
I don't regret going "lifer", but I do regret the condition of the website...
I almost forgot to add that the website is in sorry shape, as well. Turnip is completely right. A few years ago the forums were absolutely packed. Now I'm just talking to myself!  I do, however, like the renovations. The site's new skin looks very nice. |
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Web Master
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Hey All, We recently posted the following information on a different thread and I just wanted to pop in and provide you with the info as well in regards to product testing. NAFC officially switched the Field Testing Program to be powered by StuffStuff last week, which was the week of July 16th. The reason why we made the switch is that we received negative feedback from our members regarding the Field Test program, so we put a group of dedicated club employees to work solely on improving the product test benefit. After listening closely to you, our members, we have found that we were not providing products to test in a timely manner and members were receiving products that they didn’t want or couldn’t use. This resulted in manufacturers not wanting their products in the old program because they weren’t receiving the amount of feedback they needed. This new program gives manufacturers more exposure and in return, they insert more products to test in StuffStuff, which means more products for you to test. To help you navigate the site, check out www.stuffstuff.com/faq and the tour video located at http://www.stuffstuff.com/Video.aspx or if you need assistance with how to register, you can follow this step-by-step guide: http://www.stuffstuff.com/Portals/0...shing.pdf. If you have any questions on how to use StuffStuff, there is a team of StuffStuff support ready to help you. You can contact them 3 ways: 1. Email at support@stuffstuff.com 2. After you have a StuffStuff account, log in to www.stuffstuff.com and click on the orange feedback & support tab on the right edge of your screen 3. Private message StuffStuff on Facebook (www.facebook.com/stuffstuff). We hope you will take advantage of the new program and enjoy it much more than the old program. Thank you, Web Master Member Services |
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Posted By Web Master on 23 Aug 2012 04:50 PM
Hey All,
We recently posted the following information on a different thread and I just wanted to pop in and provide you with the info as well in regards to product testing. NAFC officially switched the Field Testing Program to be powered by StuffStuff last week, which was the week of July 16th.
Are you KIDDING me last week was WHAT ??? July 16th !!!!!!!!! I saw your post on the other thread also................ I will say this I did get a e-mail from the club on the 15th of August about it......asked some questions and did get a reply VERY fast ..........like lighting for this out-fit............  |
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bass or bass?
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Opinions are like sphincters, everybody has one. Well here's mine. Just drop the whole field test idea. This StuffStuff thing simply sucks.
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CAROLINA FISHMAN
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| 23 Aug 2012 08:08 PM |
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Not asking for much ,just send me the magazine like you promised |
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Web Master
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| 24 Aug 2012 08:27 AM |
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Hey All,
My apologies for the typo I meant to say August of last week in my previous post. I apologize for any inconvenience.
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Mr. Blank
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| 25 Aug 2012 01:09 PM |
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I got the email about the switch to "StuffStuff" too. I finally decided to give it a whirl and see if my cynical nature was going to be validated with a bad link or some other snafu related to the website.
I was not disappointed. The new site works as well as the old program did.
Granted, I didn't necessarily join for the freebies either; but there is something to be said for upholding an agreement and providing what was advertised. So far, about the only things I've goten was a forum that is barely usable and a magazine that contains all the same information I can watch on TV for free.
Seriously guys, at this rate I'm not only not going to go "Trophy" or "Life" member; I'm not even going to renew. |
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Pegsguy
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| 26 Aug 2012 08:17 AM |
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The shame of it is, it wasn't always this way, Some of the deterioration I can blame on the club, but some of it seems to be a lack of members posting fishing related info in the forums, replaced by an endless stream of complaints, some valid, most due to unreasonable expectations. |
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Mr. Blank
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| 26 Aug 2012 12:51 PM |
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Hey Pegs, Nice to see you're still swimming around here. I agree with you on the unreasonable expectations, but when it comes to the product testing I don't think those in particular are unreasonable at all. The Club has been advertising it in such a manner that it leads you to believe that EVERYONE gets a free product test every month.
Can you blame folks for being upset when they receive nothing after months and months of waiting? The club brought this on itself by utilizing shady marketing techniques. If they want to fix it and reclaim their former glory then they need to get back to their roots and stop grubbing after the industry scraps and what few pennies we members have left after Uncle Sam comes to collect his share of what he earned by pimping us out.
Make it about fishing again, instead of about all the products we can't afford. |
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I've almost given up on testing products. I check the BB now and then and try to keep in touch with some of the members. The members is what the real benefit is. It's to bad the club doesn't see that. They could expand it and I'd bet membership would grow. They could do a NAFC expo every year, with celebrity guests, manufacturers, speakers, demonstrations. Oh well we can only dream. |
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Pegsguy
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I must be the exception, because I never got the idea that I would receive an endless stream of products to test. In fact, the 2 worthwhile products I have received have been in line with my initial expectations. A trial membership in some subscription software hardly counts as a "product" to "keep" in my book, and that is in over 5 years of membership. Mr Blank, I do still stop by here from time to time but like so many others, I have found a new place to talk fishing without all the whining and best of all, no profanity or insulting comments. |
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wellsley
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I didn't join to test products, I look at that as a bonus. I've learned alot about fishing for differant species I would not have fished for on my own. So I'm happy being a life member. |
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bass or bass?
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Posted By Pegsguy on 27 Aug 2012 10:03 AM
I must be the exception, because I never got the idea that I would receive an endless stream of products to test. In fact, the 2 worthwhile products I have received have been in line with my initial expectations. A trial membership in some subscription software hardly counts as a "product" to "keep" in my book, and that is in over 5 years of membership. Mr Blank, I do still stop by here from time to time but like so many others, I have found a new place to talk fishing without all the whining and best of all, no profanity or insulting comments.
Hmmmmm, I wonder where that new place might be????  |
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Captain Quantum
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Posted By bass or bass? on 27 Aug 2012 07:24 PM
Posted By Pegsguy on 27 Aug 2012 10:03 AM
I must be the exception, because I never got the idea that I would receive an endless stream of products to test. In fact, the 2 worthwhile products I have received have been in line with my initial expectations. A trial membership in some subscription software hardly counts as a "product" to "keep" in my book, and that is in over 5 years of membership. Mr Blank, I do still stop by here from time to time but like so many others, I have found a new place to talk fishing without all the whining and best of all, no profanity or insulting comments.
Hmmmmm, I wonder where that new place might be????
A lot of the guys that used to come in here now go to WWW. Outdoor-Fishing .com. They apparently like the chatroom better and kind of abandoned this place for the other site. I guess that's what the NAFC gets for neglecting their site and failing to implement upgrades and improvements. |
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Pegsguy
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OK, It's not just me! |
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Catfish121
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| 30 Aug 2012 04:09 PM |
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Hell, they sold me on a lifetime membership back in 2008, took about 4/5 of the amount they said it cost in payments, screwed up on the billing and were not reflecting my amount paid accurately and I could not get anyone to reply to my emails about it so I chalked this all up as a scam and wrote it off. Here we are some years later and I get some spam email inviting me to join this club and decided to try contacting them to remind them I'm supposed to already BE a member, and ask if anyone every sorted out how much I still owed on my lifetime membership or if they were still determined to burn me. Thankfully SOMEONE had a clue about customer care and reinstated me with a new member number. Hopefully they are going to honor the deal they sold me years ago after all! |
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I hope you bought a lottery ticket that day! |
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mo65
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Good Morning
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It's very quickly approaching the point where the only good thing about NAFC is the magazine, which was all I really wanted when I joined anyhow. They screw that up and I'm outta here!
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Captain Quantum
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Posted By bass or bass? on 01 Sep 2012 02:05 PM
It's very quickly approaching the point where the only good thing about NAFC is the magazine, which was all I really wanted when I joined anyhow. They screw that up and I'm outta here!
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I'm not so sure the magazine is even worth it anymore. This magazine has so many more ads than any other fishing magazine that I get. And when was the last time they published a saltwater related article? I emailed customer service a while back if the NAFC had any saltwater related items (books, dvd's) the usual crap..they replied they did, and will send me a list of what (saltwater) they have. The list came in the mail..it was ALL freshwater fishing related material. Go figure! This is a sinking ship, and unfortunately, the Capt and most of it's crew has already abandoned. All that's left are a few deck hands and us members who are locked in the steerage compartment who can't get out. |
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Captain Quantum
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Posted By Barresi on 01 Sep 2012 07:52 PM
I'm not so sure the magazine is even worth it anymore. This magazine has so many more ads than any other fishing magazine that I get. And when was the last time they published a saltwater related article? I emailed customer service a while back if the NAFC had any saltwater related items (books, dvd's) the usual crap..they replied they did, and will send me a list of what (saltwater) they have. The list came in the mail..it was ALL freshwater fishing related material. Go figure! This is a sinking ship, and unfortunately, the Capt and most of it's crew has already abandoned. All that's left are a few deck hands and us members who are locked in the steerage compartment who can't get out.
Ha ha! Very funny Barresi! That made me laugh! But sadly you maybe right. At the same time though I still have faith that the club will be around for a longtime. If it does somehow go under I will demand my money back!  |
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turnip
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| 02 Sep 2012 07:27 PM |
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I agree with you, Barresi...The Infisherman is a much better mag, ours has gone down hill for sure... |
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docque
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| 05 Sep 2012 08:23 AM |
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I am pretty much done with the club. i am a lifetime member and the magazines get thrown in the trash. I noticed that it is the same stories year after year.
The Club was unable to handle the product testing so they are sending us to a different vendor to do that.
In the beginning it was great and that is why I became a life member. But it has gone South and it is a matter of time before they are outsourcing everything.
Now all they need to do is get some Middle-Eastern to answer your calls and then they will fit all the rest of the garbage that is out there.
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