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| 26 May 2009 06:34 PM |
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I went an bought some shakespear cajun line. cajun red cast. It says virtuall invisible , but i have not even got one bite . Then i started thinking about my lures that have red hooks. ?????????? can fish see red???????? |
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fishnhunt
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| 26 May 2009 07:37 PM |
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Hi Tim----I'm sure if ya get them mad enough they would see red!! HeeHeeHee LOL. Seriously though I don't know if they do or not but I use Cajun red on some of my rods and don't have trouble catching fish with it. Also my ice rod has red ice line and no trouble with that either. Maybe it's time to check your presentation and rigging and see if that doesn't help. Good luck to ya and let us know how it is going? Take Care, good fishing and God Bless!---Bill J. |
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maxspider72
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| 26 May 2009 08:06 PM |
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Cajun Red? What kind of line is that? Mono, fluoro, braid? On a clear night, I can hear the fish laughing. |
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bass or bass?
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| 26 May 2009 09:23 PM |
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Fish see color in the same spectrum as you do. Water acts as a color filter, red being the first color to be filtered out, blue the last, thats why water appears blue. Red filters out to a neutral gray at @ 15 to 20 feet, so red is visible in shallow water where much of your fishing is done. Personally, I think the "red" hype right now is just that; a good advertizing tool. Happy fishing. Phoenix Arizona ~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~ |
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ryfish
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| 27 May 2009 06:24 PM |
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i have it on my ice fishing pole and honestly i don't think it makes a difference i catch just as many fish on that as i do regular colored line. so no i don't think it makes a difference |
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hawainbob
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| 27 May 2009 06:45 PM |
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i tried the cajun red line for that reason. and same results. no fish. i talked to a older fisherman friend. he told me the trick to catchin fish is your line. were i live its clear water lakes. he told me to use silver tread. well at that point i decided to research some lines and i found that suffix elite and suffix seige. were the same diameter as the silver tread. well i switch to a smaller line. well not in lbs but in diameter. and ive got alot more fish than i did before. my father inlaw uses stren ez cast and on a good day ill out fish him from the back of the boat. if you wanna see some fo my fish there on myspace. blackboblikewhoa@myspace.com in my fishin pix album. |
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tim 1
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| 28 May 2009 07:45 PM |
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thanks guys i appriciate your input . |
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1 fisherman
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| 29 May 2009 02:04 PM |
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I tried it a few years ago, it was ok until I spent a lot of time in the sun. The line seemed weaken after two days of direct sunlight. It began to snap consistantly during casting. I lost 3 rattletraps back to back on 2 different ploes. Sunlight weakens mono(fact), I think the red attracts more of the ultra violet rays causing it to weaken faster. Needless to say It has been removed from all of my gear. Good luck. |
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Pegsguy
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| 29 May 2009 06:15 PM |
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It is my personal belief that red line(and hooks) were designed to catch fishermen. The guys I know that use it are at best dissapointed, to say the least. The only time I fished side by side with a guy useing red line, I outfished him 3 to 1. Draw your own conclusion. Tom Fishin' fool in NE Illinois |
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moose
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| 30 May 2009 04:39 AM |
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WELL I BOUGHT CAJUN RED. LINE AND WAS VERY DISSAPOINTED IN IT. IT TWIST UP ALL THE TIME AND BREAKS VERY EASY, AND I HAVE CAUGHT LESS FISH ON IT COMPARED TO THE OTHER BRANDS, THIS IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME BY USEING IT. |
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GuppyCatcher
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| 30 May 2009 09:41 AM |
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Hey Tim,Its Rick I bought some red line made by Berkley Trilene. It seems so far just as good as any other mono line.No problems so far.Rain has kept me from really using it,but so far so good. .jpg) Old-fart Catfisher |
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daveguy410
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| 31 May 2009 09:29 AM |
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i have had soooo much better luck with this it is rediculus: - for salt water i have had best luck with power pro red line, and 3' flurocarbon leader... i use black hooks as well. - for freshwater, i use 4lb flurocarbon line with black or silver hooks. DAVEEEE of NJ |
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Bassbum
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| 31 May 2009 09:39 AM |
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Tim, I have the exact same line on my ultra light. 4 pound test. I have been catching good numbers of fish with it. The waters I am fishing are also stained to dingy. If you fish clear water then the red line wont disappear. Lifer since 05/08....Ky....Fred |
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PaperChaser1
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| 31 May 2009 10:15 AM |
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IM GONNA SET THE TRUTH HERE LINE COLOR 9 TIMES OUT OF TEN DOESNT MATTER. the only time color matters is when you go way deep. fish normally cannot see the color. simply becaus eline is thin. the color is more or less for you the angler and thats about it. red color dissapears as light past aboput 100 feet. its al about light and how the line reflects it. PaperChaser1
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PaperChaser1
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| 31 May 2009 10:16 AM |
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IM GONNA SET THE TRUTH HERE LINE COLOR 9 TIMES OUT OF TEN DOESNT MATTER. the only time color matters is when you go way deep. fish normally cannot see the color. simply becaus eline is thin. the color is more or less for you the angler and thats about it. red color dissapears as light past aboput 100 feet. its al about light and how the line reflects it. PaperChaser1
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bass or bass?
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| 31 May 2009 09:58 PM |
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PaperChaser1 wrote: IM GONNA SET THE TRUTH HERE LINE COLOR 9 TIMES OUT OF TEN DOESNT MATTER. the only time color matters is when you go way deep. fish normally cannot see the color. simply becaus eline is thin. the color is more or less for you the angler and thats about it. red color dissapears as light past aboput 100 feet. its al about light and how the line reflects it. PaperChaser1 -always trying for that masters plaque Well that was certainly confusing. As I said earlier, red light waves are filtered out by water at @ 15-20 feet. Doesn't matter if you are talking about line, hooks or lures. I only use clear or green line, and I don't experience much difference using either. Whichever color you choose, thinner line is less visible to fish. Happy fishing. Phoenix Arizona ~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~ |
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Pegsguy
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| 02 Jun 2009 06:33 PM |
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After considerable thought, this is my take. Be advised this is seat of the pants and totally unscientific. The more stained or cloudy the water, the less line color matters. If you are fishing in Pea soup, green line might be the best option. In really clear water, I like to use a fluoro leader. It seems important to use leader material instead of regular line, the leader material has more abrasion resistance. I also use Fireline Crystal and Stren Microfuse in clear water but with a short-2'- fluoro leader. I go with the short leader and just repace it when i suspect it might be compromised. BTW, different species of fish do see colors differently from each other and definitly different from humans, especially at night! Tom Fishin' fool in NE Illinois |
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slipperybob
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| 03 Jun 2009 01:39 PM |
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I only go with the information that has been found in other sources just as stated: different fish species have different visual pigmentation receptors. Also of which we currently don't have all the known facts about how they work. But what are some of the things that we know about colors and light. - Light spectrum turn into rainbow colors when it gets refracted ROY-G-BIV.
- Water refracts light and acts as a light filter.
- Red light wavelength are longer
- Violet light wavelength are shorter
- Red is the first lightwave to be filter out by water by order of ROY-G-BIV
- Color is influence by the reflected light color of the surroundings
- UV light has much better water penetration than visible spectrum light.
Now if you'd think about red line...It's gonna get greyed out first, but really gonna get influenced by the reflected light color of the surrounding. In other words it should readily become more camofluaged and disappear just like the mfg claims. So then too would orange line or yellow line or green line. We also know that clear nylon material has a light refraction index and flourocarbon has a light refraction index closer to that of water. Then again we also know that if the material is bent at an angle the light refraction index changes. Fortunately most of the time our line is pretty straight from rod to lure or is there some heinous coil... |
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jjackson19
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| 12 Apr 2011 08:16 PM |
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Seen this post while searching for other users using red lines as well. Not trying to necro a old post, but would like to point out also that last year (for anyone else looking for updated information) I used green tint lines and had great fishing success. This year my arsenal of lures and technics are the same, I did however switch to cajun red cast and my success so far is horrid so far this spring. Although I do like the feel of the cajun line and the cast-ability of the 10 and 12lbs versions are on par. The amount (or should I say "lack") of fish I am reeling is embarrassing to say the least. I am going back to green on all my reels.
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Pegsguy
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| 12 Apr 2011 10:31 PM |
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Choice of line color should factor in a bunch of things. Some species of fish are line shy and others could care less. Water color also should factor in to your decision. Very clear water would require less visible line where stained water is more forgiving. Tom |
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jjackson19
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| 13 Apr 2011 03:27 AM |
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Posted By Pegsguy on 12 Apr 2011 11:31 PM
Choice of line color should factor in a bunch of things. Some species of fish are line shy and others could care less. Water color also should factor in to your decision. Very clear water would require less visible line where stained water is more forgiving. Tom
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree, I forgot to mention also the water I fish mostly in is dingy to muddy (1ft vis on the best day) at best. Mostly backwater slews and swampy areas, and I still have felt a huge drop on the fish I have caught. I am gonna pick up some good ole cheap berkley green tint line today and see if my results change. My Pflueger reel came with an extra spool I will keep 10lb red line on to quickly test the lines to see if this "is" my issues, or just poor luck this spring. :-) |
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Pegsguy
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| 13 Apr 2011 10:33 AM |
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Do you keep a log? It is probably a good idea to do so as it gives you an idea of what works and what conditions were like at the time. I also have multiple spools for most of my spinning reels and a great majority of them are interchangeable, allowing me to take 2 reels with about 6 or more choices of line for them when I head out. Having so many spools gives me the luxury of keeping a spool of "specialty" line available for a special situation I might encounter only rarely.Tom |
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jjackson19
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| 13 Apr 2011 10:49 AM |
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@Tom, Nah I dont keep a log with me. I just rely on observation of what I need when I get there based on weather, water clarity and terrain. Normally I go for the grassiest, snakiest mudholes I can find to drag out the really good large mouth bass. I do how ever keep a spreadsheet to keep inventory of all my tackle and I do keep comments of what is working and what is not. That way when I run out of certain baits I can try something else when I replace it. |
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jdepaola
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| 16 Apr 2011 11:38 AM |
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My first post WOO, anyways, I've been using red line for a few months now and i haven't had much luck at all. I fish with my brother who uses dark green mono and he catches fish 5ft away from my casts...(LMB) Once i get the time I'm planning on switching line. However, line color preference could be affected by water clarity, fish species, cloud coverage, etc etc. Best advice i can offer is its up to you, if you don't like something, change it and see how that works for you, Good luck! |
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fisherfanatic
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| 16 Apr 2011 02:25 PM |
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I'm not real big on red line. My favorite is clear. |
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| 16 Apr 2011 11:00 PM |
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The lakes here in Arizona are very clear. I prefer clear monofiliment line and use it on all my reels, bait cast and spinning, except my heavy flathead cat rig, which is spooled with 80 pound test braided Dacron, and my fly reels. Since I'm so line color sensitive, I use willow color (kind of a mossy gray green) fly line on my panfish fly rod, and sky blue color fly line on my bass fly rod. My partner uses only clear mono on his bait cast and spinning rigs. We must have caught @ 100 fish on our last outing 2 weeks ago. Another friend and his partner joined us for several hours and they only caught 2 channel cats. They were using green and red mono line on their rigs. I don't know if that proves anything or not. I just prefer my line to be as inconspicuous as possible.
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slipperybob
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| 17 Apr 2011 12:39 AM |
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I've colored marker red my Fireline Crystal. On some occassions only that one line caught 99% of the fishes and other occassions almost skunked. So it seems to work or not work for where I'm fishing. |
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mo65
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| 19 Jul 2011 02:19 PM |
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I'll have to say the cajun red was pretty disappointing for me too.  |
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irishmistmr
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| 19 Jul 2011 03:27 PM |
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I fish for Crappie in NE Indiana and I use Cajun Red line on my rods that I fish below 4ft and have great luck with them. Most of the water I fish is kinda murky. If I fish shallow I use a clear or green mono or if the water is real clear. Just Mike Lifer since 2006 |
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