WHAT AN EYE OPENER!
Last Post 14 Jun 2008 06:44 PM by Brian Cienkus. 12 Replies.
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Brian CienkusUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:64 Brian Cienkus
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14 Jun 2008 06:44 PM

    WHAT AN EYE OPENER!

     

     

     

    Boy am I confused. Listening to the Partisan 'politicals',

     

    I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.

     

    I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

    Now .... I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
    each year.
    http://ti nyurl.com/zob77

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance
    programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal
    aliens.
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary
    school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html


    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
    American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

    6. $3 Million Dollars a
    DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
    aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for
    Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
    http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages< BR>are caused by the illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

    10. The illegal aliens in the
    United States have a crime rate
    that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In
    particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the
    US
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

    11. During the year of 2005 there were
    4 to 10 MILLION illegal
    aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions o f pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the
    U.S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report:
    http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

    12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost
    of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
    http://wwwnationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
    http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million
    Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants in the
    United States '. http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    The total cost is a whopping: $ 338.3 BILLION dollars a year.
    Are we THAT stupid???
    If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the
    other hand , it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington , D.C. - for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.

     

     

    I wonder which political party has the guts to do something about this.

     


    cienkus@comcast.net
    stealthfisherUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:884 stealthfisher
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    18 Jun 2008 09:11 PM

    Why are We Being "Hammered" with this??  You are right when you say  "they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them"

    You make valid points, BUT, this is not the place for such topics.

                             NAFC1


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    walleyeguy77User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:347 walleyeguy77
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    26 Jan 2009 10:45 PM
    thanks fisher, we dont need this when people are hurting, and political ideas think it should be here on a FISHING !!!!!!!!!!!!   I rest my case.
    walleyeguy77User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:347 walleyeguy77
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    26 Jan 2009 10:50 PM
    I THOUGHT THIS PERSON WAS GOING TO SAY SOMTHING ABOUT WALLEYE   ????
    stgfishUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:277 stgfish
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    21 Mar 2009 09:30 AM
    I agree with both of you. There is a time and a plce for everything,this is NOT the place.
    Steve---Lifer since '95---B.A.S.S.--AnglersLegacyAmbassador--BoatU.S.Angler Hail from east-central MO
    Steve-Life Mbr since 1995
    BassbumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1733 Bassbum
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    21 Mar 2009 09:05 PM
    stgfish wrote:
    I agree with both of you. There is a time and a plce for everything,this is NOT the place.
    Steve---Lifer since '95---B.A.S.S.--AnglersLegacyAmbassador--BoatU.S.Angler Hail from east-central MO

    This was from June of last year. I haven't seen the guy who posted this on here since.
    Lifer! Fred NKy
    Fred
    PegsguyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4095 Pegsguy
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    23 Apr 2009 05:09 PM
    The best way to shut people like this up is to ignore them! I am no fan of illegal immigration, just don't put it here! Tom
    Fishin' fool in NE Illinois
    Lifer in NE Illinois Gen. 1:28 I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become a vegitarian!
    getdanet1 getdanet1
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    07 May 2009 05:30 PM

    I don't get by here much anymore. With comments like this it's no wonder.

    I have met and fished with Cienkus. He's one of the nicest guys you will meet.

    He may have gotten a post in the wrong slot but the way you guys are slamming him  it's a shame.

    I am surprised that some of the old timer  NAFC folks haven't commented on this.

    getdanet1

    My name is John DeCillo. If you want to slam me, pleased use my proper name.


    USAF Vietnam Vet 66-67 One a Da Boyz from Illinoiz gettin' a little to old to put up with *%^$*&^. They don't call me "The Ogre" for nothing. Life is the leading cause of death. Stop wishin'...go fishin'........ Support our Troops. Never, Never, back down..
    fish-a-holicUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:774 fish-a-holic
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    09 May 2009 05:57 AM

    John you are absolutely right. This may have fit better in the Misc. section but I'm not going to slam someone for posting in the wrong place. But since someone had nothing better to do but bring back a post from 12 months ago I think its something we need to relook. My proper name is James Liedtka if you need to comment.

     

     

    Boy am I confused. Listening to the Partisan 'politicals',

     

    I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us.

     

    I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

    Now .... I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.

    1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
    each year.
    http://ti nyurl.com/zob77

    2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance
    programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fi...lexec.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fi...lexec.html

    3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal
    aliens.
    http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fi...lexec.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fi...lexec.html

    4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary
    school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html


    5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
    American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html

    6. $3 Million Dollars a
    DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal
    aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html

    7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html

    8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for
    Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
    http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html


    9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages< BR>are caused by the illegal aliens.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI...dt.01.html

    10. The illegal aliens in the
    United States have a crime rate
    that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In
    particular, their children are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the
    US
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

    11. During the year of 2005 there were
    4 to 10 MILLION illegal
    aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions o f pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the
    U.S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report:
    http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

    12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost
    of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
    http://wwwnationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

    13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
    http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

    14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million
    Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants in the
    United States '. http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml

    The total cost is a whopping: $ 338.3 BILLION dollars a year.
    Are we THAT stupid???
    If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message. If, on the
    other hand , it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington , D.C. - for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.

     

     

    I wonder which political party has the guts to do something about this.

     



    Jim USArmy 1986-Present Life Member NAFC "Life is sexually transmitted"
    Brian CienkusUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:64 Brian Cienkus
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    09 May 2009 11:31 AM
    Dear Members,

                  I am extremely sorry for this post.  I had only posted this once on the Illinois page.  I don't know what happened.  It posted on ALOT of areas that I don't even go to or have never been to.  So once again I am sorry.  It was wrong of me to post political stuff here and I won't do it again.  It was my intention to upset ANY of our members, and John DeCillo (getdanet1) thanks for your reply.  You know me personally and know that what I say is true.         Brian


    cienkus@comcast.net
    BassbumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1733 Bassbum
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    09 May 2009 01:37 PM
    No harm done Brian.
    Lifer! Fred NKy
    Fred
    fishnhuntUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:3632 fishnhunt
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    09 May 2009 07:24 PM
    Hi Cienkus (Brian)--You don't owe anybody here an apology. The post you made is not a breech of ethics nor is it a moral issue. I do believe it should have been posted in misc., but to me it is not a big deal! I think that a lot of the response by members is due to the overall condition of our country and people are real sensitive. You have been a member for a lot longer then many on here now. Your opinions and posts are as welcome as anyones! Nuf said!! GDN1 (John)---Maybe if some of you guys that left a year ago came back and got involved with what is going on in the forums; maybe it would help to improve the situation. Many of the newer members are not knowledgeable of past B/B history. Those of us that have stuck by the Forums through thick and thin have worked very hard to get improvements and with the help of Administrators we have made a lot of progress and it continues to improve.As for sticking up for Brian---This is the first time I have entered this thread, and then only to see what Bassbum was responding to. Many of the old guys and gals do in essence jump in and retort any bad posts. Take Care, God Bless and good fishing!-----Bill J.
    GuppyCatcherUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:380 GuppyCatcher
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    21 May 2009 07:49 PM
                      FISHING NOT POLITICS TOO MANY CHEIFS WITH NO BALLS>EASILY SOLVED START SHOOTING THEM CROSSING THE BORDER OR JUST TAKE OVER MEXICO.
    Old-fart Catfisher


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