ChongTheGreat
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| 04 Jul 2010 10:28 PM |
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Found two of these a few feet apart right next to the water's edge of the Navesink River in NJ. The river is brackish and very wide and only a few miles from the Atlantic. The two fish were very big pretty rotted and had a lot of flesh missing but from the looks of it they were once realllllllllly fat and I'm guessing somewhere around 25-30 lbs. Any Idea what they are? Cause of death? And if there are any live ones swimming around what do they hit?  |
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Bass25
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| 06 Jul 2010 12:19 PM |
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Looks like a flounder but I don't see 2 eyes on one side, so I'm guessing a seabass or maybe a largemouth bass but I'm not sure. |
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AZAllen
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| 07 Jul 2010 08:20 AM |
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Doesn't appear to have enough "MOUTH" to be a largemouth. |
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Bass25
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| 07 Jul 2010 09:36 AM |
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Maybe its some sort of mutation or crossbreed, speaking of mutations, does anyone know if the montauk monster picture is real or fake? |
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basbandit
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| 08 Jul 2010 12:41 AM |
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Looks like it may be a black drum. |
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bpetersen
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| 08 Jul 2010 06:47 AM |
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I thought maybe a wiper. but perhaps thats a bit big for one. |
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fisherfanatic
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| 12 Jul 2010 12:39 PM |
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Definately not a Largemouth Bass. Probably a Black or Red Drum. |
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LJWylie
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| 13 Jul 2010 02:33 PM |
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its definitely not a red or black drum or a largemouth. looks like what you have there is a large white perch. most of the time as adults they only grow 15"-20" 3-5lb. but some times if the river is big enough some fish never stop growing. exp. striped bass, catfish, carp, largemouth bass.striped bass believe it or not a bass at all but a large growing migratory perch. they live in salt, fresh and brackish water. spend most of there time in salt and migrate to fresh and brackish to spawn. but enough about stipers. you have a big white perch. they like to hang in fresh lakes and brackish river estuary. i some time fish the hudson estuary's and run into some very large white perch. sometime 29"15lb. is i hookup any more ill post photos. have fun hope this helped.
oh and if you want to catch them you can small live herring and or live shiners. try to find deep water.
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fisherfanatic
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| 14 Jul 2010 12:44 PM |
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Way to big to be a White Perch!!!
TIGHT LINES! |
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fhubbard
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| 08 Aug 2010 03:17 AM |
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It could be a striper, but hey i'm just guessing  |
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fisherfanatic
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| 27 Sep 2010 03:41 PM |
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Posted By fhubbard on 08 Aug 2010 04:17 AM
It could be a striper, but hey i'm just guessing It doesn't much like a Striper either. Maybe it's just too decayed to get a positive identification.  |
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ramseyetcs
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| 27 Sep 2010 05:58 PM |
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Posted By fisherfanatic on 14 Jul 2010 01:44 PM
Way to big to be a White Perch!!!
TIGHT LINES!
I agree, the world record white perch is 3 lb-1 oz caught by Edward Tango, Forest Hill Park, NJ in May 1989. I'm no fisheries expert, but if I had to place a bet, I would say WHITE BASS, except for the "brackish water" tid-bit, although even largemouths are known to tolerate some pretty salty water. |
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fisherfanatic
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| 28 Sep 2010 02:58 PM |
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Posted By ramseyetcs on 27 Sep 2010 06:58 PM
Posted By fisherfanatic on 14 Jul 2010 01:44 PM
Way to big to be a White Perch!!!
TIGHT LINES!
I agree, the world record white perch is 3 lb-1 oz caught by Edward Tango, Forest Hill Park, NJ in May 1989. I'm no fisheries expert, but if I had to place a bet, I would say WHITE BASS, except for the "brackish water" tid-bit, although even largemouths are known to tolerate some pretty salty water. That would have to be a pretty pale Largemouth Bass! I'm pretty sure it's not a White Bass either, because the record is only 6 lbs. 13 oz.! |
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davesett2000
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| 30 Sep 2010 05:10 AM |
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I think that Chong's description of "very big" is a bit misleading to some of you. Let's break down the pic a little bit  All those small rocks in the pic are basically called "pea gravel" if I'm not mistaken...and I would bet that even the biggest one there is barely 1/2" in diameter. IMHO....that would make this fish 15-20" long. Here's a good webpage showing the difference between white perch and white bass... http://www.wildlifedepartment.com/whiteperch.htm |
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fisherfanatic
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| 30 Sep 2010 06:51 PM |
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Davesett2000, I'm pretty sure it's too decayed for identification. |
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davesett2000
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| 01 Oct 2010 02:56 PM |
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Pretty much knew that from the get-go but a better pic of the head would have helped since so much else was gone  Had to add some size perspective to the conversation   SOME World Records have been scrutinized because of this in the last 10 years or so  |
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fisherfanatic
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| 01 Oct 2010 03:00 PM |
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davesett2000
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| 01 Oct 2010 03:08 PM |
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A better angled shot of the head would make this topic more interesting....AND easier to research! For that matter...you'd be amazed at what icthyologists can identify just by recognizing skeletal remains |
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fisherfanatic
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| 08 Oct 2010 09:31 PM |
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Did you try to pick it up, Chong?  A differently angled photo would have really helped. |
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PA John
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| 17 Oct 2010 06:15 PM |
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Looks like a "Rock Fish" (Striped Bass) that some one filleted and threw the remains in the river. |
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mo65
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| 21 Oct 2011 05:28 PM |
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Hmm...you wouldn't think an old rotten fish skeleton would generate this much response.   |
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RRichards151
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| 21 Oct 2011 07:59 PM |
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Its got the spikes on the back sorta looks like a sheep head to me but the remaining skin is too white to be a sheap |
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saltydan
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| 21 Oct 2011 08:35 PM |
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Mouth is in the wrong position to be a drum, or any of it's kin. Drums have mouths that face the bottom.
Maybe a sheepshead that has bleached out. What kind of teeth did it have? Did they kind of look like
human teeth? If so it was a sheepshead, if not, then some other kind of fish.
Good luck in figuring it out,
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LIyakker2012
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| 22 Oct 2011 06:57 AM |
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That's obviously the carcass of a stripedbass. Looks like it was a pretty good size one. |
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fisherfanatic
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| 22 Oct 2011 04:33 PM |
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It almost looks like a Baramundi Perch, but they don't live where you're at. It's probably a White Sea Bass |
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JamesBerger
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| 25 Mar 2012 09:10 AM |
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If you have Hybrid Striped Bass there, it looks very similar to one. |
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