Posted By bass or bass? on 18 Sep 2010 07:22 PM
A moderator really needs to lockout this thread!

Posted By davesett2000 on 18 Sep 2010 07:30 PM

Posted By bass or bass? on 18 Sep 2010 07:22 PM
A moderator really needs to lockout this thread!

I agree...I've spoken my piece

Posted By basbandit on 19 Sep 2010 07:13 PM
Good does that mean your not posting anymore. Woopeeeeeeeee!

Posted By basbandit on 19 Sep 2010 07:13 PM
Good does that mean your not posting anymore. Woopeeeeeeeee!

Posted By Admin Wes on 20 Sep 2010 09:06 AM
Northeast Bass,

I received an alert for language on this discussion thread and removed that particular post but after reading this whole thread I'm sorry to say that if you threaten another member with physical violence, even as a veiled threat, you're indefinitely suspended from the forums.

On a personal level I would like to encourage you to ease up a little on the frequent plugging of your website. I'm sure you have good products, I've watched many of the videos on your website and liked them but it's easy to reach a saturation point where too much promotion has the opposite effect and turns people away from your business. Calling other people names and threatening them could turn anyone reading your posts off on actually doing business with you. Like I said, I'm sure you've got good products and I like your videos but the hard sell repels customers.

I've also had to move many of the discussion threads that turn into a pitch for your website over to the Deals and Discounts topic area because they change focus once you start posting on them. Please balance your posts with personal interaction and less promotion of your website.

Thanks Steve. 

Posted By the rod tosser on 27 Sep 2010 03:59 PM
one should examine the hardware ,if its cheap can you upgrade it .
there is nothing worse then losing a fish because the lure falls apart.


I would agree with ya Trev if I could figure out how you can tell by looking at split rings that they are defective!  With some hooks you can tell and in MHO only after they have broken and the fish that was on is now happily swimming away...lol!   Of course after that experience, if you like the performance of that particular bait, you can always change the hooks & rings immeditly after purchase, before you use it...I know, it's not right, but I am not sure what other options there are!  Perhaps if you have a need for practice casting weights...

Posted By rickcoker28 on 30 Sep 2010 05:12 PM
We r hear to get connected to other fisherman, tips, friendships, whatever it may be, but WHY do people who love to fish wanna bring drama to the one place where we have something in common and shoulf talk FISH!!!!!!!!!! BUT I see that some ADULTS on here act like children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! People like Steve who starts drama makes this page just like FACEBOOK AND MYSPACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GROW UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted By basbandit on 30 Sep 2010 05:43 PM
Rick: Not everyone on here is like that. We share info, have a few laughs and have fun. No matter what org. you belong to there is always a few people that make it diffacult for everyone and there is no way around it. Most of us just ignore the butt hole and eventually they go away. Don't let one guy spoil it for you. this is a great forum and 99% of the guys on it are good honest folks. I believe that Steve guy is gone now. Haven't seen anything from him in awhile now. Harry

Wow really I got had one do that and it's kinda sad to see such a great company have a bad jig. Oh weel we just won't buy them till they fix.

He he he, me to maybe once or twice he he he.

Posted By Barresi on 12 Oct 2010 09:36 AM
In general...lures catch more fisherman than fish...LOL..and I've fallen victim a few times!

Posted By fisherfanatic on 25 Sep 2010 08:47 PM

Posted By Admin Wes on 20 Sep 2010 09:06 AM
Northeast Bass,

I received an alert for language on this discussion thread and removed that particular post but after reading this whole thread I'm sorry to say that if you threaten another member with physical violence, even as a veiled threat, you're indefinitely suspended from the forums.

On a personal level I would like to encourage you to ease up a little on the frequent plugging of your website. I'm sure you have good products, I've watched many of the videos on your website and liked them but it's easy to reach a saturation point where too much promotion has the opposite effect and turns people away from your business. Calling other people names and threatening them could turn anyone reading your posts off on actually doing business with you. Like I said, I'm sure you've got good products and I like your videos but the hard sell repels customers.

I've also had to move many of the discussion threads that turn into a pitch for your website over to the Deals and Discounts topic area because they change focus once you start posting on them. Please balance your posts with personal interaction and less promotion of your website.

Thanks Steve. 

Thanks for stopping the madness!

My crap? 

Here is something you said to Davesett2000:

"Dave I don't really know how to say this other than ..Are you Retarded or do you have ADD??"

Then you threatened to stalk him or something.

These forums aren't intended to be arenas for "pisin-matches".

Posted By AZAllen on 20 Oct 2010 11:46 AM
It is a shame that what could have been an interesting thread devolved into a pissing contest.

Posted By Admin Wes on 25 Oct 2010 08:18 AM
I know it's really difficult to un-tangle emotionally charged situations once they've come up, especially if they've been festering for a while. If people come after you online the natural reaction is to be on the defensive.

Everyone I've seen here over the last few months has a good head on their shoulders, some heads just get hot quicker than others. Believe me, I've seen a lot worse and you guys have a great chance to undo this before anyone gets suspended.

Northeastbass wasn't suspended, just asked to ease up a little, which he did. Some people posted honest responses that I don't think were mean spirited, just critical because let's face it, Northeastbass can say some pretty abrasive things and of course it's going to get push back.

The problem is that when people get worn thin, online discussion can turn into an endless loop of knee jerk responses and name calling. This is made even worse because the words we think in a minute can be posted and stay up for months or years for everyone in the club to read. I've learned this the hard way.

If you're going to post something when you're angry, please just give it a few minutes or send someone you'd like to address a personal message and keep it out of the public area.

So back to business: Regarding lures to never buy again...

I'm not an advanced fisherman but go out quite a bit and because I'm not particularly knowledgeable about lures I comb through the bargain bins.

A big box outdoor store here by work was having a half off sale on some higher end lures so I bought a surface and deeper diving crank bait and was out last weekend trying them out. I have to admit that these two had great movement, were balanced very well and IMHO would be worth the full price at $10 apiece.

So for me, I've got a tackle box full of clearance lures that don't get used much and I probably won't buy them again. I'm sure you can find some great deals if you knew exactly what you were looking for or wanted to just try something new.