fisherfanatic
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| 10 Aug 2010 07:21 PM |
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One of the lakes I usually fish has a nice population of Green Sunfish. In my book they're the bass of the panfish world! Very vicious little sunfish, though, they tear up my plastic grubs and get snagged in plugs much too big for them to eat. In my oppinion they fight just as hard or harder than Bluegill or Pumpkinseed Sunfish. I'd like to know if anyone has any tips or tricks for catching Green Sunfish. Also, the lake I fish for them in is extremely clear with a relatively sandy bottom and lots of vegetation.
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Pegsguy
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| 10 Aug 2010 09:16 PM |
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Years ago, my youngest and I used to fish a small lake that had a good population of green sunfish. I concentrated on walleye while my son (11 at the time) took what he could get. He caught many greenies on the normal panfish baits, wax worms and small curlytails etc. When they are active they can be very agressive and a lot of fun on light tackle. Tom |
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kalang
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| 11 Aug 2010 08:54 AM |
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live worms around rocky vegetation |
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mr bill
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| 11 Aug 2010 09:06 AM |
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yep for their size they can be a handful and lite tackle is the way to go. i've caught them on like tom said the normal panfish baits, i even got 3 on minnows last week when i was perch and crappie fish'n. the greenies can be found just about any place they want to be. i have found them in the weeds, in the gravel, on sandbars, back in mucky bays, around lilly pads and in the reed beds. so you see they can be an place. i would look were ever i find an edge in some what shallow water. i don't think i have ever gotten a greenie any deeper than 8' of water except during the winter-- then i have taken them in as deep as 30'. |
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Pegsguy
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| 11 Aug 2010 03:39 PM |
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I'll agree with Mr. Bill, the greenies are usually in relatively shallow water like 8' or less and a drop-off nearby helps. Tom |
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tekellJ
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| 22 Aug 2010 03:45 PM |
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Small (or sometimes BIG, see below) crankbaits
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mr bill
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| 22 Aug 2010 07:46 PM |
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lmao......yep that be a greenie alright |
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bpetersen
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| 22 Aug 2010 08:46 PM |
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though we don't have too many greenies in my neck of the woods it seems that all the ones I have caught have come on crank's usaully while fishing for bass in shallow water. of course the cranks have been a bit too big but that did not seem to stop the greenies and gills. you may want to consider trying a johnson beetle spin also. Brian |
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fisherfanatic
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| 23 Aug 2010 02:17 PM |
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Posted By tekellJ on 22 Aug 2010 04:45 PM Small (or sometimes BIG, see below) crankbaits I don't believe that it intended to eat the crankbait. It was probably just trying to kill it.
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mr bill
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| 23 Aug 2010 06:02 PM |
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multi, i have taken greensun fish on bass size minnows when fishing for smallies on gull lake. |
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basbandit
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| 23 Aug 2010 08:38 PM |
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Pretty fish. In all my years of fishing that one in the pic is the first one I have ever seen. I know we don't have them here in Washington. Harry |
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mr bill
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| 24 Aug 2010 07:50 AM |
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yes they are a pretty fish and that is a very good pic of a greenie. but they are very small fish most of the time that is, ave. about 6" long and when ya have them in a body of water, there are what seems like a million of them. don't get me wrong, i have gotten them close to 9" before. but most of them are in the 4 to 6" range |
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Pegsguy
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| 24 Aug 2010 12:39 PM |
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Only fish I have ever mounted was a green sunfish my youngest caught. Made an absolutely gorgeous mount and doesn't take up too much space on the wall. Tom |
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YellowBear
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| 25 Aug 2010 05:18 PM |
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Harry, if you ever want to catch some green sunfish, just holler. |
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basbandit
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| 26 Aug 2010 10:14 AM |
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Brad are you saying we do have em here? Cool I have never herd of em. I may just do that. I'm taking the next couple years off the Pro circut so my wife and I can fun fish so I may just give you a call and set up a trip so we can catch one of those greenies.
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bassmasterbk
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| 04 Sep 2010 08:32 AM |
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They look good to eat. Has any one tried these fish? |
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tekellJ
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| 04 Sep 2010 11:10 AM |
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They eat just fine. Good candidates for catch and release into grease.
Posted By bassmasterbk on 04 Sep 2010 09:32 AM
They look good to eat. Has any one tried these fish?
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mr bill
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| 04 Sep 2010 07:09 PM |
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1 of the nice things about green sunfish is even thou they are small in length they are thick in body |
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fisherfanatic
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| 05 Sep 2010 12:34 PM |
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Posted By mr bill on 04 Sep 2010 08:09 PM 1 of the nice things about green sunfish is even thou they are small in length they are thick in body They are very "thick in body" as you put it. That's mostly because they have pretty large mouths. I've caught 3 inch Green Sunfish with mouths bigger than an adult Bluegill or Redear Sunfish. That's also the reason that they should never be stocked into small ponds. They'll starve young bass and Bluegill in a heartbeat! |
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slipperybob
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| 05 Sep 2010 03:04 PM |
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Green Sunfish are extremely weed and structure orientated fish. They simply don't cruise around. They merely just sit there and dart out to eat and dart back into their hiding spot. They really don't provide any competition for Bluegill or Baby Bass. Bluegill and Baby Bass have a totally different method for foraging. You usually find them in small schools and they tend to do more roaming around in the more open water next to the weeds. It's a definitive boundary between the majority of the species prefered habitat and foraging methods. If there was food swimming around the bluegills and baby bass will get first dibs on it. The green sunfish needs the larger mouth to sneak in afterwards to steal whatever scraps are left. |
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fisherfanatic
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| 05 Sep 2010 04:45 PM |
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Posted By slipperybob on 05 Sep 2010 04:04 PM Green Sunfish are extremely weed and structure orientated fish. They simply don't cruise around. They merely just sit there and dart out to eat and dart back into their hiding spot. They really don't provide any competition for Bluegill or Baby Bass. Bluegill and Baby Bass have a totally different method for foraging. You usually find them in small schools and they tend to do more roaming around in the more open water next to the weeds. It's a definitive boundary between the majority of the species prefered habitat and foraging methods. If there was food swimming around the bluegills and baby bass will get first dibs on it. The green sunfish needs the larger mouth to sneak in afterwards to steal whatever scraps are left. Read this, slipperybob: http://ohioline.osu.edu/a-fact/0010.htmlPay attention to the part about "Not Recomended" fish to stock. I hope this clears things up!  |
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By far the most important fact is regarding fresh pond stocking of fingerlings/fries. While I appreciate the opposing fact, but about the only thing that clears up is a narrow ecosystem of pond stocking. A pond in Ohio does not reflect a pond elsewhere. If a lake is such that has abundant shallowness of weed and structure suitable for the Green Sunfish, then yes they will out compete your brood of Bluegill and Baby Bass. If the lake has a deep water ecosystem that supports the movement of Bluegill and Bass into deep water or openwater during the warmer summer months where Green Sunfish don't move into. Then there is a clear separation of foraging. Thus the Green Sunfish cannot compete for that food source, else they being small will become food for the larger predators of the more open water variety. Furthermore the reason why some panfish move out to openwater is to avoid predation by the lake's top predator. Those Green Sunfish are food.
I've heard many people complain about Green Sunfish outcompeteing other species, but those people merely don't know about openwater fishing for panfish out in the middle of the lake, nor are they aware of finding Bass schooling in deep water either structure oriented or roaming the expanse after open water forage species. Even from shorefishing, if I'm catching Green Sunfish in the shallows and want to catch something else, I go straight to the open water and many times I find openwater Bluegills or Pumpkinseeds. Never a Green Sunfish out there. If they're out there, those Bluegills or Pumpkinseeds are getting first dibs, long before I can retrieve my lure close enough to shoreline structures or weeds for any Green Sunfish.
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fisherfanatic
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| 05 Sep 2010 09:15 PM |
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Thanks for the info, slipperybob. I did not take that part into consideration. |
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dbarnett1
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| 16 Nov 2010 03:29 PM |
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I love catching green sunfish and all other panfish. I clean and pressure can them in mason jars. The bones melt and they can be used just as you would canned salmon. The taste is wonderful.
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| 16 Nov 2010 06:12 PM |
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I catch green sunfish for flathead cat bait. I have found a terrific bait to catch them. Buy some frozen squid at an Asian supermarket. Cut off a section of the squid head so you have two tentacles joined together. Hook it up so the tentacles trail in the water when retrieved. The action is awesome and irresistable to greenies. They attack like kamakazees. And the squid is very tough and difficult for the greenies to steal. I usually catch a livewell full with just one or two squid heads. This bait works equally well for any sunfish species. A whole sqiud head used as a trailer behind a jig will slay bass. Or just retrieve the squid head on a wire weedguard hook. Killer! |
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| 17 Nov 2010 12:07 AM |
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...and when you're not quite done with the squid head, you use it for catfish bait.  |
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Posted By slipperybob on 17 Nov 2010 01:07 AM ...and when you're not quite done with the squid head, you use it for catfish bait. Actually, I use the heads for sunfish, bass, and stripers, and use the rest ot the squid body for channel cat bait. Caught my pb channel last February on a whole squid body. |
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