jjbear
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| 23 Apr 2010 08:21 AM |
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I know what stripers are but I have never heard of a wiper. I am from Tx and have never fished out the state. Just wondering. |
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Pegsguy
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| 23 Apr 2010 08:37 AM |
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A wiper is a hybrid of a white bass and a striped bass. Tom Lifer in NE Illinois |
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jjbear
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| 26 Apr 2010 07:25 AM |
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down here we call them hybrids. |
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jro6969
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| 26 Apr 2010 02:53 PM |
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Ditto on the Hybrids. The fish hatchery makes hydrid striped bass(wipers) by adding sperm from the white bass to eggs from the striped bass. "Give a Man a Fish, Feed Him For a Day. Teach a Man To Fish, Confuse Him For a Lifetime" |
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Krzfshrmn
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| 08 Jun 2010 03:23 AM |
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It also works the opposite way. The results are the same except the fry are only about 1/4 the size of the female striper cross because striper eggs are 4 times bigger than white bass eggs. The advantage is that the bigger the fry the bigger the zooplankton they can eat so it easier to get them started. Gary |
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bpetersen
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| 08 Jun 2010 06:34 AM |
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That's iteresting info Krzfshrmn. I was not aware of that. I wonder what type my states fisheries people use! An interesting aside. Here in utah to my knowledge there is only 1 body of water that each are found in. White bass = utah lake and tribs, stripers= lake powell, wipers= willard bay. If anyone knows different please let me know. Brian |
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UncleTomJigs
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| 29 Jun 2010 02:50 PM |
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Thanks for the information. What part of the country are they called wipers? From what I can read and some fishing they are mainly called Stripers and Hybrids in Georgia. Most of our Hybrids are caught in fairly large reserviors. Are they for sale to be stocked in small lakes of ponds--say about ten acres? Where would you purchase them? I've caught a lot of fairly large wipers and did not even know it. No limit what we can learn and share with one another. Good luck and good fishing! Uncle Tom  |
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slipperybob
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| 29 Jun 2010 07:44 PM |
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I know the hybrids get all the way up to Iowa. Basically one can catch all three varieties. So the main Mississippi river basin and all connecting tributaries have a potential for wipers. I have not heard of a wiper in Minnesota. I'm pretty sure all we've got is white bass.
I would imagine the wiper name would be more applicable where there are a majority of white bass. Ithe hybrid would be more applicable where there are a majority of stripers. |
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Pegsguy
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| 29 Jun 2010 08:33 PM |
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Regional names are many and varied. Last I heard there were at least 6 or 7 names for crappie depending on where you are. I was 30 minutes into my first Fl. speck trip before I realised we were fishing for crappie! Tom |
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bpetersen
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| 30 Jun 2010 06:26 AM |
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Thas funny Tom. We should all learn the latin names and then there would be no mix ups. Brian |
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fisherfanatic
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| 12 Jul 2010 06:47 PM |
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Some people call them Sunshine or Cherokee Bass. Regardless they are just Striped/White Bass hybrids. TIGHT LINES! |
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Fishman88
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| 27 Jul 2010 03:01 PM |
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lol Ive never heard of a wiper... we commonly use the term hybrid here In Maryland. Other than that heres a nice pic of a Spring striper from The Chesapeake  Also An easy way to distinguish the difference between the hybrids and Natural stripers is by the lines on there bodies. A hybrids stripes are broken Unlike a Normal striper who's lines are unbroken |
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fisherfanatic
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| 28 Jul 2010 10:57 AM |
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Wipers also have a larger body depth than Stripers. TIGHT LINES! |
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basbandit
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| 28 Jul 2010 03:52 PM |
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A wiper is a cross between a white bass and a stripe bass. On a wiper the stripes are broken and on a striper the lines are more solid. Harry Trophy Life Member USN Retired 1969-1989 NW Bass Pro |
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skeeter
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| 28 Jul 2010 06:41 PM |
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In OHIO, Fish and Game refer to them as "a Hybrid Striped Bass". They go thru all the normal spawning traits of their ancestorial past (i.e.: white bass and striped bass) but are totally sterile. We use twister jigs or chicken liver to catch 'em here. |
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Fishman88
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| 29 Jul 2010 03:27 PM |
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Im not so sure about the sterile part because we have them in all our reservoirs here in maryland and they reproduce just fine and they grow to be monsterous. I know when they did a shock test on liberty reservoir a few years back they found one at 108#. |
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UncleTomJigs
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| 06 Aug 2010 09:45 AM |
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I'm glad we got all that straight about the stripers & wipers. I had never heard of "sunshine or cherokee bass". Multispecies 101 could you let us know more about sunshine & cherokee bass? Needless to say when an ole country boy like me first saw this post I had something all together different in mind. Probably shouldn't share it but everybody needs a good "hehehe" in these days and times. "Striper" reminded me of my Mother and those peach tree switches--that was a STRIPER! Today I think they call it child abuse. I spanked by youngest daughter once and went back to her room to check on her and she proceeded to pull down her shorts and showed me a small bruise on her bottom and promptly said: "This ever happens again and I'm calling my lawyer." In my youthful enthusiam to be a good parent I replied: "yea and I'm going to give him the same thing I gave you." Well, "Wiper" reminded me of the second thing that comes to mind in a "real emergency" which separates itself altogether from a "reel emergency" which is easily fixed by taking two reels! Good Luck! Hope I did not offend anyone! Uncle Tom
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UncleTomJigs
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| 06 Aug 2010 11:24 AM |
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Multispecies 101: Thanks for the web sites and appreciate the help. Have a great weekend! Hope to get in some fishing despite the heat and the rain, can't handle those thunderstorms--that's when I sit in the sun room and just watch the lake. Uncle Tom  |
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| I built my own lure company as a young man--thus the name UncleTomsJigs. It grew so well I decided to give it up and go fishing with family, friends and especially grand children. I became disabled as a United Methodist Pastor IN 2002 and retired here in Coastal Georgia on a 10 acre lake where I continue to fish despite my disabilities. My wonderful wife and I enjoy fishing together. God has blessed us in so many ways and we pray the same for you. I am excited about having so many new friends all over this great country. |
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tshands
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| 11 Aug 2010 01:03 PM |
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i didnt know wipers couldnt reproduce!!! wow that was nothing to do with the subject. but that was just a shocker to me. didnt have a CLUE. am i alone?
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fisherfanatic
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| 11 Aug 2010 03:27 PM |
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I didn't know that Wipers were sterile until I read a book at the library. It seems only some are sterile, though. I guess some are able to reproduce.
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ouachitabassangler
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| 22 Aug 2010 12:39 PM |
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The name "wiper" came from blending "white bass" and "striper" to fit this hybrid striper. Since there are multiple thousands of known fish hybrids, calling any one fish a "hybrid" isn't very descriptive except among anglers who talk only about hybrid stripers. In the same fishery might be found some hybrid bluegills, crappie, and maybe a hybrid black bass. Wipers are not sterile, can occur naturally. Reference: CRAWFORD, T. M., M. FREEZE, R. FOURT, S. HENDERSON, G. O’BRYAN, AND D. PHILLIPP. 1987. Suspected natural hybridization of striped bass and white bass in two Arkansas reservoirs. Proceedings of the Annual Conference Southeastern Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies 38:455-469. They simply are not represented in high enough numbers in any fishery to effect a significant hatch, and most can't go far enough upstream give an egg a chance of hatching. They run upstream with either white bass (to home spawning areas) or stripers and can contribute to egg production and fertilization. The reason is striper eggs are not attached to anything, left to suspend in current, fertilized in a cloud of milt. Fertilization is very random among three fish species. Like the striper egg, the wiper egg must also tumble downstream 2-3 days before hatching. Both wiper and striper are not likely to reproduce in a reservoir because of the water flow requirement, so stocking them is required to maintain a significant population. A hatchery collects white bass eggs and striper sperm to produce fry to supply fingerlings. The third fish in the mix, the white bass, produces eggs that attach to hard surfaces, but they like wipers and stripers don't guard the eggs like black bass and crappie (guardians), and they like to spawn in moving or turbulent water, unlike a largemouth bass. The white bass has a high tolerance for hot and cold water, while the Atlantic Striper has low tolerance for extremes, so the wiper provides a powerful creature with the better attributes of the parent fish. Jim |
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thanhnguyen
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| 26 Nov 2010 09:41 PM |
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We fish them using a slab. TNT 180 or Thrifty slab from Moe's tackle. In Texas DFW area, we call them Hybrids. I hear some folks call them Palmetto Bass also. |
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wmiket
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| 27 Nov 2010 10:01 AM |
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Here's a little more interesting info according to the Southern Regional Aquaculture Center publication no. 300 titled "Hybrid Striped Bass". The "original cross" happened in the 1960's using striped bass eggs and white bass sperm. The "common" name for this cross is the Palmetto Bass (a new one on me). The reciprocal cross - white bass female and striped bass male - was produced later. The "common" name for this cross is the Sunshine Bass. Around here - southern IL - they're called Hybrids. Whatever you call them they're fun to catch and taste great. |
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