Posted By JustDave on 03 Aug 2011 02:40 PM
CQ,
I too prefer proactive vs. static fishing.  I think you nailed it with one of your comments though, "even kids can catch fish while still fishing".  When teaching a new angler, they will get the basics of casting and hopefully will have enough fish find ther bait to keep them interested.  Once they have "the bug" you can advance them to more active fishing.  Before Oregon banned bait in most of the rivers and streams while Trout fishing, my favorite method was a small two blade spinner with a worm or crayfish trailer.  I new lakes, I like to troll until I find fish and focus on those areas.  I don't use electronics so finding fish at tilmes takes a little longer, but I still manage to find them around shore points or coves. 

JustDave

I don't fish for Trout that often any more.  Most of my fishing is for Salmon and Steelhead these days, but it is the same for those as well.  Salmon for instance, you have many different ways to fish, but I primarily fish eggs and shrimp under a bobber VS pulling quick fish (sitting watching your rods in their holders or trolling cut Herring, same thing).  Steelhead I fish with bobber and jigs or drift fish with rags or corkies or throw spinners/spoons VS pulling plugs or side drifting (see above).  I'm getting older now and my days of rock hopping on the rivers won't be lasting that much longer and I'll likely switch to all of the sitting type of fishing soon enough.

JustDave

Posted By solitario lupo on 04 Aug 2011 04:24 PM
I get that to. Steelhead(rainbow) and salmon are just trout. They are in the same family but salmon get much bigger. Not all salmon and trout make it to salwater. They can live in freshwater like the great lakes. They just call them steelhead cause they migrate which i dont get cause browns do the same and thier name doesnt change.



Now going back to the topic. It all depends on the mood im in but i usually use a worm or powerbait and no I dont still fish with them. I always keep bait moving unless fishing in the river.
If its stocked trout kids can catch them anyway they fish... just sayin

Posted By JustDave on 05 Aug 2011 07:52 AM
CQ,
I couldn't agree more.
JustDave

Here is a link to a little blurb a buddy of mine put together, SCR http://sulphurcreekranch.com/2011-s...y-are-hom/

Enjoy

Posted By solitario lupo on 08 Aug 2011 02:13 PM
Ha Ha thats a good laugh. "I have encountered some cunning stocked trout before!" CQ.. The longer the fish stays in the creek , the more wild they get. They start to feed on the natural bait. So with that being said stocked trout are very easy to catch. Ive even caught them off of donuts. So to me they are a very easy fish to catch.

Posted By solitario lupo on 22 Sep 2011 03:33 PM
CQ I have to eat my own words on that, trout being cunning. Yesterday I saw some hogs in the the creeks and boy were they stubborn. I havent fish for them for awhile and yes they got the best of me. I got 1 to take the bait but everytime it would hit it, it out smarted me. It was a nibble and I couldnt get him. so I hope u accept my apology and have no hard feelings about my last post.

Posted By salmonking on 14 Dec 2011 11:38 PM
CQ,
Great topic. I have to favor cast and trolling for trout. I still drift eggs and worms. But I will still soak bait because of my youngest. He is still in training, with about a year left to go before both my sons are able to fish lures on their own.

Posted By mo65 on 15 Dec 2011 07:33 AM
Had an instance this spring where my uncle, his friend, and myself were in the boat. My uncle and I were doing the usual...casting spinners and joe-flies. My uncle's friend was still fishing...and killing them! I thought, hmm...I want in on this. I had a rod already rigged for powerbait, so I joined him. After I sat there and watched him boat 4 more trout, while I hadn't had a nibble, I noticed his rigging while he was rebaiting. He was using a sort of drop shot deal, where the floating powerbait would rise a foot or two above the sinker...perfect for the weedbed we were over. After changing to his rigging, I immediately started catching. When my bait was lying down there in the grass, I might as well been using a bare hook! I think either method can be superior, depending on conditions, but my favorite will always be casting lures.
                                                    

Posted By jtaylor23 on 15 Dec 2011 06:49 PM
Great topic CQ, I mostly fish for bass but i do some trout fishing and this has helped me out with some good tips. when i do go trout fishing i will add some of these methodsand see how well they will work for me ...THANK YOU ALL JOHN

Posted By prober on 16 Dec 2011 03:28 PM
Well I don't know much about the Carolina rig but I've been using THIS type of rig for a couple years- with one modification. Instead of an egg slip sinker, I use a bullet weight/sinker- the same type used with plastic worms in bass fishing. The bullet weight will pull through the weeds/grass more easily. You can put a small bead below it on top of the knot to help protect the knot from abrasion. I just put a snap swivel on the end of the mainlilne with the weight above it. That way I can change the length of my leader depending on the height of the weeds. Use a SMALL treble hook- they hold the powerbait better than others.

Posted By jig fisher on 21 Dec 2011 12:19 PM
As far as a "superior" method of fishing, I don't know... each method you've brought up has their proper time and place. As far as personal preference, mine is casting spoons (Red Eyes, Little Cleos, Krocs) with one rod/reel, stillfishing (or "deadsticking") with a 2nd rod/reel from the nearest Lake Michigan pier or jetty. If the fish are hitting the spoons, I pack up the deadstick. If they're pounding the tar out of the still bait, I deadstick with both rods. I was always of the opinion that trolling was the boat doing the fishing and not the boater, but when the fish are biting trolled lures and spoons, then trolling's the thing. Gotta go with what's working that day.

Posted By mo65 on 22 Dec 2011 06:39 AM
I use two rods at once often, is that an oddity? Maybe its not legal in some places. Also I noticed several guys commenting on the bullet sinker's improved performance in weeds. I can see their intention, but an egg sinker comes through weeds just as well. After all, an egg is round...not exactly something to catch a weed. Look at the compared rigging, the Carolina rig. It uses an egg sinker. I guess if I ever experience weeds hanging up on my rig, I will try the bullet sinker.
                                                                                                 

Posted By Captain Quantum on 22 Dec 2011 05:50 PM

Posted By mo65 on 22 Dec 2011 06:39 AM
I use two rods at once often, is that an oddity? Maybe its not legal in some places. Also I noticed several guys commenting on the bullet sinker's improved performance in weeds. I can see their intention, but an egg sinker comes through weeds just as well. After all, an egg is round...not exactly something to catch a weed. Look at the compared rigging, the Carolina rig. It uses an egg sinker. I guess if I ever experience weeds hanging up on my rig, I will try the bullet sinker.
                                                                                                 

Oh it's just that it is illegal where I live and the surrounding states. You actually can get what they call a two pole endorsement though if you pay extra on your license. I have enough trouble catching fish with just ONE rod though!

Posted By Troutinator on 24 Dec 2011 10:43 PM
The question is which method is superior? As for me, I don't care. I love trout fishing, but I have almost all but given up the bait (too boring) and spinners (too easy). For years now, I've been heavy into fly fishing the local mountains here in CA for wild brown, cutthroat, rainbows, golden and brook trout. You drive and then hike into remote areas, tie on a hand-tied fly from your own fly tying table, lay a nice cast into a deep, clear pool and watch as the wary trout come up and inhale your offering. Oh, you may not catch 3#  larger lunker "factory raised and planted" trout meant for the dinner table, but you may never run into another person the entire day. I've spent days catching dozens of beautiful fighting native trout in their own habitat and left with pictures and stories to share with friends. Is fly fishing superior to all other forms of trout fishing? Probably not, but it's all in how you define "superior".

Boy...I'd like to know where they have "factory raised and planted" trout of 3lbs. or more. Here in Ohio, the stockies are 10 to 14 inches long, similar to those tiny mountain stream trout everyone cherishes. If I had my druthers, I would love to just one time fish the Kenia river in Alaska for those giant trout...and by whatever method produced...that's my idea of superior!

Posted By Troutinator on 25 Dec 2011 11:35 PM


Here in California they frequently stock 20# plus trout in "pay to fish" lakes in the Los Angeles area.