Hello Everyone!

We had a great meet last year and I hope all that attended will will return.

This year is our 10th Anniversary Meet! Yeah! The oldest meet there is. I invite all for a good time. We need to get our heads together and come up with something special.

I am looking at the dates of the weekend of May 16th & May 17th.

Does this work for all? I wanted to get the post out early so we can work on all the particulars and make this meet very special.

As always, this is YOUR meet! Everyone has a say and all suggestions are welcome. Let's brainstorm, I know PA that's a lot for you but concentrate buddy, and we can have the best meet ever.

Let me know if the dates work for everyone and let's start early getting it all together.

It looks like many successful meets are now going on across the country and it makes me happy to see their success.

It all started with this meet everyone! Then followed the Michigan meet with Doc and others fell in like dominoes.

Things to think about. Shirts, Hats, Longevity etc. along with the wonderful food etc.

Lets chat it up and see what ideas we all agree on.

As always hope everyone is doing well and GOD bless you all....

I am in! I will be there in 2009 for the Tenth Anniversary Meet. I was just fishing with Wellsley this past weekend and we were talking about the past meet and the upcoming 10th Anniversary Lake George/Lake Champlain Meet. I was telling Wellsley that I wanted to contact you to say I wanted to help out and do what I can for the meet. So, please count me in to make this meet a special thing for everyone to enjoy.

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Oh yes... now Wellsley might know one of my spots to catch Lake Trout and some of my secrets. But I do have a secret or two of my own.. like the secret way I have the reel jump right out of the reel seat of the rod when he has a big one on the line.  I am sure Wellsley can tell you more!

 All I can say is don't plan on catching a fish bigger than fishing-eagle's. He's got the equipment rigged so that isn't going to happen. lol

I hope to make this meet its going to depend on when I have to pick up my daughter from college. I won't know for some time. Now if we could get a commitment from some of those mid-western members to come to the longest running meet. Maybe someone from the NAFC mag. to do a story. They could interview the founding members.

Glad to see you all are at least considering coming back. We all thought you guys were a good addition to our meet. Believe me! I understand the college thing. That's what happened last year and why the meet was a little earlier than normal. All though all agreed to have it earlier so I could attend. That's the great group of guys we have.

I know it's early but let's all chat it up everyone. It's our 10th meet!

Hope everyones family is ok and I pray for you all every day....

Tight lines...

P.S. Glad to see Ed is getting in a lot of fishing. A lot of my time is spent now with my grandson but he is my future fishing patrner after all. lol! He already has his first tackle box at 8 months old....

Hi everyone , I got a e-mail from jarhead1  - Patrick that he lost most of our e-mail addresses. So I just sent out a e-mail asking if you wanted to be on the e-mail list. If you do not reply you will not be on it. Also if you did NOT get one or want to be on the list PM jarhead1  or myself with your e-mail address and will get you on there.

SORRY TO STATE THIS FELLOW ANGLERS.

I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST. THIS IS NOT THE OLDEST NAFC MEET. NOR IS IT EVEN CLOSE TO 10 YEARS OLD...ASK AROUND ON THE BB AND YOU'LL SEE, THIS IS A FAKE GROUP TRYING TO BE THE VTTROLLER....

..IT WAS FOUNDED IN 1999 BY WILLIAM SCHOONER AKA VTTROLLER. THIS GROUP IF YOU ALL BEEN FOLLOWING THESE PAST YEARS, ARE PEOPLE WHO WAS ASKED NOT TO RETURN FOR VARIOUS CRIMES AND OUTDOOR VIOLATIONS. SUCH AS POACHING, THEFTS AND ASSAULTS. NONE OF THESE ANGLERS HAS 10 YEARS ANY WHERE!

THIS GROUP STARTED IN 2006. THIS PROVES WITHOUT A DOUBT, THEY ARE A FRAUDULENT GROUP. NAFC SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO ALLOW THIS TO BE POSTED BY A 3 YEAR OLD GROUP. KNOWING FULL WELL, IT IS NOT THE ORIGINAL GROUP. NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING 10 YEARS. OUTRIGHT LIES TO TRY TO BE SOMEONE ELSE.

 THE ORIGINAL GROUP IS TEN TIMES THE SIZE OF THIS GROUP AND IS TEN YEARS OLD. THIS GROUP IS NOT EVEN 4 YET.

WRITE VTTROLLER@AOL.COM AND LET HIM KNOW THIS IS GOING ON. HE WILL FLIP... CLAIMING HIS AND HIS GROUPS ACCOMPLISHMENTS. OR GO TO VTTROLLER@MYSPACE AND FIND OUT THE TRUTH TO THIS FRAUDULENT GROUP OF POACHERS. WITH PHOTO PROOF OF POACHING AND THEFT OF THIER BANNER.

THIS IS A REAL INSULT TO ALL OF US NAFC MEMBERS. THESE GUYS CLAIMING TO BE WHAT THEY SURELY ARE NOT!!! ASK ANY OLDER GROUP WHO FOUNDED WHAT. NOT SOME POACHER FROM NJ.(aka jarhead)

DAVE

Here we go again...I thought that the "club" took care of this problem?  It appears that he now has someone else sending his messages.  And this person can't even put their name to the post...coward!

This just proves, you people have no clue who did what. Just following a person of low ethics who has to pretend to be another. Might as well state you guys started the whole NAFC. Might as well lie BIG. Trying to steal another persons identity is a crime aint it?

All these meets can be postponed if a Court order is done. Trying to be the great Vttroller by lying on here, only proves he was telling the truth these past 3 years about this group. Claiming you guys Founded the Meets is a LAUGH. It's been published 4 times. How can even NAFC lie for you, after 4 print ups?

It's OUR 10th year, not yours. More like comming onto your 3rd year according to Bill. How do you get 10 from 3???

Only a COWARD LIES!

Dave

Why are we answering nafc meet? Have we not learned anything from the past. Lets all do us all a favor and ignore this guy who ever he is. We are better people then that - lets set the example,... not follow it - remember - we have kids who follow this site. Thanks

   Dennis you are right about the meets being about members and not one person. I believe that certain meets would go on even if the club ceased to exist. The club just gave us a place to meet in the first place.

I agree Dennis & Jim!

ERABBIT wrote:

My be on your puter "Doc" but I still can find three on mine one on this thread and three more else where.

Hey erabbbit;

Yea I see that now!  Question has anyone else besides bother to copy/paste these posts and send them to Kurt at the club besides me??  That's how I got some of them deleted.

Well hello Dennis.

Howd the fishing go this year on Champlain? I hope I can make this meet and hope to see you there.

Here at the Pa mini meet we do something similar.  Instead of drawing a name, the person that catches the longest fish wins the lures.

As far as pie eating goes, have at it!  Unfortunetly I won't be attending in 2009.  My budget is to far out of wack due to the cost of gas this year (budget over-run).  I will miss not being there.  I am not sure what I will be able to attend next year.  But I want to stay in the loop, not miss anything!

First I would like to thank all the members for their support!!! Never, have we said this meet is about one person. As Dennis stated we all have acknowleged who came up with the idea but, an idea does not make a meet, the members do.

As always it's your meet. Anyone who is offended by any post please contact the club. We all thought this was resolved before as the club told us. My main problem is that we have life members who have posted since the original bulletin board who will no longer post and are feeding into this persons attacks. Please ingore all cowards.

Dennis, I like your suggestion for a raffle. Since many of us fish for different species a raffle seems best. Big fish in one species is not a big fish in others. But, it is your meet members. Let me know what you think. I am for a raffle.

Turnip, If you are having difficulties attending please contact me. We or I may be able to assist so you can attend and have a great time. You would definitely be missed!

Gas prices etc are coming down so please don't count yourself out yet. I understand about family issues though as you have seen from some of my prior posts.

I hope everyone is doing well and also their families!!!

I need some ideas on shirts or hats from everyone. I have a contact that can do them but not as cheap as Rabbit. Although I can get really good quality, like Columbia shirts in short or long sleeve etc. It all depends on how many we order. Let me know your ideas, suggestions, thoughts, etc we have time to get many things worked out.

Many of God's blessigs to you all for the Holidays....

Hi All

I am a life member since 2000 but am new to the boards. I would like to know more about this get together. it sounds like a lot of fun and good times and I think it would be interesting to meet some members. any information and updates would be appreciated

troutpw---life member since 2000

Welcome to the BB troutpw.

Now what is it you would like to know? I'll try to answer what I can.

The meet has been held at Roger's Rock Campground (on Lake George NY). Lake Champlain is just up the road so you can fish both lakes. Its a great meet and a great place to fish. There are members that come from all over the northeast, NY, MA, NJ, PA, NH, VT.

Where abouts are you from? What do you like to fish for?

If camping is not your cup of tea there is lodgeing near by.

Feel free to post your questions someone will respond.

Well it's that time again.  I'm hunkerd down in front of the fire its negative whatever outside and I'm startin to think about the may trip to the rock.   Good to hear from ya lately Dennis.  Hope things are panning out in the new search.  let us know how you did on the hard water. 

Once again I'll say to anyone in the area...or not so close...wev'e had members from as far out as Texas...come on out! theres both warm and cold water world class fishing.  Sumthin for everyone! Great new friends waiting to be met and just one heck of a good time waiting for ya. 

To all you who've been and are comin back.  I can't wait to see you all again and catch up.  It's been too long already.

The Meets unofficial grounds is the loop of sites around #33.  I'm not sure of the range of #s but the map is there to see if you go to reserve america.com and look up Rogers Rock campground in NY. 

See you all there.

Turtle

Well everyone, hope your holidays were peacefull and blessings to everyone.

Sorry I have not been on much. So much going on here. Erik will be a Dad again very soon, maybe tomorrow. It's been a difficult pregnancy for his wife and she has been on bed rest since the beginning of September. It's been a lot on my wife and myself to support and help them through this time. That's why I haven't been in too much. Those who know my son Sean he is expecting his first child in July. I'll be a grandfather four times in a year and a half then.

I'm sorry to say some members will not post and others are having trouble with the site so there is not as much chatter as previously on the BB. We all know what part of it is. I'll be sending out e-mails to the group.

Anyone who needs information contact me. I'm going to Florida on the 19th of February and will be back the first week of March. Need the warmth and to FISH!

I want to know all those who would be interested in shirts for the meet. I have to start working on that. The price would depend on how many order them. I'm thinking long or short sleeve heavy duty shirts (denim thick type) so the price would range from 15 to $25. Good quality shirts though. If you've seen my bass club shirts that's what I mean. If everyone wants cheaper such as T-shirts they would be cheaper. Let me know who would be interested. We would need an order of at least 12 to get the embroidery.

I am looking forward to the meet and can't wait to see you all. I enjoy the pic's and seeing all who responded. Hope Dennis is doing well on the ice and nice deer Frank. Any additions to our e-mail list let me know.

Keep in touch all and let's get the chatter going.

Hello Dennis,

I hope your situation improves so that you can make the meet. I know more and more people that are in the same boat. I wish you well my friend. keep in touch.

Hey Dennis I am sorry to hear that the economy may be effecting your work. I do hope you can make the meet. I am also sorry to hear that Frank has other commitments. I was hoping to see all the same crowd of good folks at the meet that I met there last year.

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I am sitting here resting after playing out in the snow with that wonderful snowblower. I am so tired of winter and looking foward to spring time and some good fishing. I am really looking foward to the meet in Hague this year and I am planning on taking some extra time to enjoy the weekend and more. I would also like to see it be a special meet that folks will remember. I am willing to do what ever I can to help it be fun. Being somewhat the local guy here, I hope folks speak up and let me know if I can help in anyway.

hey guys

need to share a site.  just me me and son.  anyone got space at their site for another tent??  looking forward to attending this year.  also, we are boatless.  would really appreciate a ride with someone.  most of you know the boat story.cat win them all.

wildman

Hello Everyone,

Thanks Doc for thinking of us. Hope your meet turns out great also.

Kirk and his son are taken care of as far as sharing a site. If anyone has some room to take them out in their boat it would be appreciated.  

We have some new people attending this year and I know they'll have a great time. Good news also that my son Erik will be able to attend and that Sam is coming back this year.

We have 5 from Jersey coming up in our group. I have sent out some e-mails to you all. Let me know what you think. Any suggestions to make this an even more awesome meet is greatly welcomed.

We have a pretty good size group so far that are coming for sure. Hope some others like Dennis can find a way to attend. We'll sure miss Turnip but maybe a pie could lure him back.lol.

PA has pulled out the mule after the snow melt and is fattening him up for the long haul. Tune up time coming soon for that mule. Maybe he can make it in record time this year since Rabbit showed us a picture of the new Mercedes mule cart he upgraded to last year. I guess being the Amish godfather pays well. Weldon is comng again this year all the way from Indiana. It will be good to see him again.

I guess it's been a tough winter up there again this year. Anyone have any updates on the current conditions.

Also anyone needing information on the meet and/or how to get their Lake George permits let me know. I sent out the information before and they are now accepting the applications for the permit.

I'll update soon on the Friday night meal situation and what we are doing. Keep an eye on your e-mails.

Can't wait to get on the water.

Keep your drags loose...

Well, It's gettin close.  It's sad to hear that a few of ya won't make it...but the core seems to keep on keepin on. 

 On this end I'm still leaving the plan on boating open this year, as the folks I invited are still up in th air. So, Capt'n Rabbit, if it comes to pass that I got the time, it will again be an honor to set out after the salmon n' lakers.  Kirk and son, Like I said, if i'm not hosting...you guys are welcome (n' more) onboard for some bass'n and pike fish'n on Lk C..  We had some good times out in the past.

Best to you all...it is truely a shame how quiet it is here...It just doesn't do justice to what happens when we all get together. 

Well it's still up in the air as to if I'll be up solo or if my buddies are coming up too.

I was hoping that your daughter's schedule was going to change so you could make some of the meet I wanted to meet you in person. I remember when my daughter graduated what a made house trying to get 4 yrs. of stuff home in one trip and still do graduation activities. Good luck to you and your daughter.  

Glad to have you aboard Channelcat. It's always great to meet other members. I still have some things to get ready for the trip but can't wait to get there.

Anyone have any questions e-mail me. Looking forward to seeing everyone.

Keep your drags loose...

If anyone is interested, here is the email addy for the Co. who is making shirts for the meet.  They are great to work with.  Ask for John and he'll hook you up with what you want.  They are offering group rate pricing on individual orders associted with this meet so you can get exactly what you want as far as color and design.  They are great to work with.

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info@doragraphics.com

7 plus is a nice fish!  Looking forward to seeing ya again.  Your darn lucky to call that your home pond.  It really is a treat for me to get up there.  I made it back only twice when it wasnt for the meets over the years, and it just gets better every visit as I learn the lake a bit more each time.  WOW... next weekend.

Well PA John and his mule are on the way! The five Jersey guys will be up there early Thursday morning. We will sure miss some people especially Rabbit's group, Bushwacker the pie man, and Dennis who had a lauch named after him.lol.

I understand totally about college graduations. We came up early last year so I couldn't miss the meet. It allowed me to continue to attend and make this my 10th year staight.

We have three members coming who have made it all 10 years! Hawkman, Pa John, and myself.

This is the original NAFC meet. 10 Years now. Although some problems have come about with certain personalities we are still going strong. Despite personalities.

Many meets have come about because of this meet and that's something to be proud of. Many of the original members on the Bulletin Board know what I mean. (foot note: 1998 and on)

Kudos to you all and all those like DOC ( Michigan Meet) who followed suit and now there are many meets across the nation.

We have a lot of new members attending this year and I know they will be pleasantly surprised.

Thanks to ALL the members who make this a meet!!!!

Can't wait to see you all and as always the fishing will be great.

Congratultions to the NAFC North East Annual Meet on our 10 year Anniversary!!!!

For any information see our original article in the NAFC magazine October/November edition Volume 13 number 6 page 73.  Or contact me soon as I am on my way...

The original NAFC meet! 

PA are you there yet????

Keep your drags loose....

My very best wishes for all those attending!   I know that the new comers will have a grape time.  I look forward to seeing all the pics and hearing the stories about your activities!

Well...the weather....we wont call it cooperating.  Hahaha but it hapened as it does evey meet here in the NE.  Little of this little of that. It wouldn't have been an aniversary with out some rain some shine and some wind to remind us of all the ones B4.  It was really great to catch up with the people who are out of touch here on the board due to the "personalities". Thanks to ya'll who came in the past and couldn't make it for personal reasons...to those who came and made it what it is...and to you guys who just said have fun here on the BB.  Thats how I met these people. folks just like all of you, sharing the experience and welcoming all comers.  I wasn't there for #1 so it wasn't my tenth...my seventh actualy...but it sure was great to see every one who made it (and be a part of it all).

We'll have to see about my pics coming out but till then.  thanks again to you all.  This is how I start every fishing season since my first year there.

Turtle

Ya...What's up wit dat???

I remember those days all to well and am glad to see some old friends still plugging along. Turtle good to see you again been to long since I've been on here guess cause I miss the old BB. The La Crosse Meet hasn't been around as long as ya'll but is still going strong and getting better every year just like ya'lls. I makeing plans to go to it again this year. Times come and go but good friends are always there

NAFC can't afford to host you guys as me in the magazine. Can't steal someones identities and claim to be them. Thats FRAUD on Media Inc/NAFC behalf, allowing you all to pretend to be the original group, when you started in 2007. Nowhere near 1999 as we are.The TRUE and Original North East Annual Meet is copyrighted and protected from theft and abuse.
I got NAFC/Media inc permission before I did anything in 1999. On record and on file. Both to use NAFC/Media Inc name and Logo.  50 copies at hand..
Specially from Poachers and theives. You all have my permission to get drunk and fight. JUST NOT UNDER MY NAME OR MY GROUPS NAME or BANNER.
Patrick knows he's violating copyright laws and committing fraud, trying to be ME, aka vttroller- William D Schooner. We/Our Group, are 11 years old to your 3.
I teach patty how to actually fish, and he tries to be me. Such insecurity.. I do appreaciate the monies you all are earning for me though.. Keep pretending and acting as me and our group. There are costs involved and patrick was warned in 2007. His account is still valid, but over due on payments. A welch on non payment of his bills.

As Turtle stated, only had to return the Banner and start you very own group, rather try to steal as a whole. Our accounplishments and history. And tell the truth, you all hardly fish L Champlain these past 3 years. Like this year, Patty stayed within feet on the NY shoire line. Seen noone else launch Pretty small group, compared to the true and original. Pretty pitifull. By asking your original 4 to not return, doesn't justify our group, with 52 other who returned honorably. Kept within the laws and did not attack woman and get drunk every night.
William Schooner
Founder/owner of the NAFC NE Annual Meet and all those that followed. (context/photo's ect)
Schooner Enterprises LLC
@ all rights reserved

I like your new web page, where Patrick Sinwich CLAIMS to now be the FOUNDER. Talk about identity theft. Thanks for the financial proof with an outright statment that your me Patrick.

How did you Found a 1999 group, I met in 2000, never heard nor seen you before April 2000. Kiscked out with Ben in 2001 and in 2006. A double kick out in the history of any NAFC Meet. But now for life from the true NAFC NE Annual Meet

William Schooner
Founder/owner of the NAFC NE Annual Meet and all those that followed. (context/photo's ect)
Schooner Enterprises LLC
@ all rights reserved

Next year, lets have a group show down. My group of 80 plus shows up, at your camp on Lake George. And you tell us, we are the fakes.

I'm game, you imposter's game? No violence, just tell me and my group, we are the IMPOSTERS and see what happens.

Your FRAUD has to STOP NOW and make all your accounts payable up to date. Or we will meet in court.. I promise on Frans Life!!!

William D Schooner. aka vttroller

Founder/owner of the NAFC NE Annual Meet and all those that followed. (context/photo's ect)
Schooner Enterprises LLC
@ all rights reserved

No kidding Davie, just cannot post here online or anywhere else online without my lawsuits. But, I still started it regardless. YOU copied my work and now sanction a Fraudulant group. Knowing 100% full well they are fake.

I guess your group loss thier rights to my work. Anglers been fishing together before you was a twinkle in your momma 1 eye. I neveer stated I was staop anglers to ever get toigether./ Just not under NAFC in any form simular or like what was built.

You'd have to change banners, names and send letter via USPS mail. Fax, text or any other way but here!

But, we al know your not an ethical angler, as you been on here attacking my threeads since 2005. 2006, 2007 every attack upon us. You all came to my threads. I never once went to another anglers thread and atrtacked thier impunity. Just like today, You feel embolden to strike out and cause more problems. Than insist the FRAUD and thefts STOP!

Route out the fakes, kick them out of NAFC for life. They did the poaching, hurting our female anglers, steal from others? Is that the type of fellow angler you want at your Meet. Thats your right. Have a full drunk outing, fist fights and rapes.

Thats the problem of Large meets. 1 host cannot baby sit eveeryone. Anglers whining like Robbie, People like turtle accusing others of stealing his tackle box accusing Robbie. Virus screaming he did all the work. Pat5ick screaming obscinities across the park. Tent mega parties, fights, arguements. I had all that and you all will to some day. Being the FIRST requires fine tuning. I still tell newbies they cannot attend for thier attitudes during my interview for signing the con tract. ALL because of every person asked not to return!!

Yes, (I can stop this event here on this BB. Lawyers have been contacted way back in 2007. Thats why I can sell what I BUILT, not you Davie. You only enjoy my fruit of labor with no respect nor honor for what you now have.

William Schooner
Founder/owner of the NAFC NE Annual Meet and all those that followed. (context/photo's ect)
Schooner Enterprises LLC
@ all rights reserved

oh I forgot Davie. In 2006 through 2008 I dared all of you to sue if I am lying. Pajohn was the first to claim a lawsuit against me, Patty next. Nothing came forth as they know everything I state is 100% true and PROVABLE!

I am the only one who has any claims, by theft and identity theft. SlanderS and hostile treatment for a 16 year life member who stayed here helping all anglers all year FOR OVER 13 OF THOSE YEARS.. Online and off. Hosted the most fellow anglers in my home for up to 20 days free of charges. Hosted the most in any Meet.

Patty only comes on here for HIS Meet. He hides behind the word YOUR MEET. But his intentions is solely for himself./ Just wait and watch. He does nothing for you all most of the year, whats 2-4 days a year he has any interest in others? Can YOU match that, anyone??

I also paid 100% of everything for the first 4 years. Hundreds of hours and thousands in costs. Anyone else can claim that?? I've done more for this magazine subscription than anyone. I made this subscription into an actual club!! Look up definition of CLUB. Members gather and interact! Not lay back in frount of A TV SET WITH A Nafc MAG SOGGY BESIDE THE RECLINER.

William Schooner
Founder/owner/President of the NAFC NE Annual Meet and all those that followed. (context/photo's ect)
Schooner Enterprises LLC
@ all rights reservedvttroller@aol.com

I have all 60lbs of photo's. I sent in over 30-60 per year, but Tery Durgin threw them out. I paid for the entertainment, film developing, 8zx10s, food, gear, stoves cameras, fuel, fire wood ect. These guys supplied nothing but thier own chairs.

And the stories are not any to be proud of. if your asking this 3 year fake..

William Schooner
Founder/owner of the NAFC NE Annual Meet and all those that followed. (context/photo's ect)
Schooner Enterprises LLC
@ all rights reserved

Well my ground is covered with some funny looking white stuff here. I can't wait until spring when I can install all my new bells, whistles and toys in the new boat. I have a pile of boxes in the basement full with a lot of new equipment for the boat to be outfitted with. Oh yeah, I also have a heater down there too for next year. Once the boat is all rigged, I will be able to extend my fishing season next year as long as there is open water.  Yes sir, we just close up the cockpit with full canvas and turn on the heater and we will be warm and comfy. The pile of boxes is fairly large now and more to come. I ordered the new Yamaha T8 four stroke with power tilt 2 weeks ago for my kicker engine. Yes, it will be equipped with remote controls too. This is my last new boat, so there is no skimping this time around. I will be catching the Salmon and Walleyes while you are out chasing those antlers.