Originally posted by: mr bill on 8/25/2007 12:06:26 PM

quote:

Originally posted by papa_d:
I agree with the monthly mag...it used to be when I first started getting it. Also; how about a fishing stories from "The Good Old Day's"???

Originally posted by: mr bill on 8/27/2007 7:01:39 AM

i just wanted to say i posted what i posted for everyone have an idea on how nafc mag. was like in it's infency and the changes that have happened over the years with other mags. also, not to kill the thread. <!--graemlin::(-->

changes happen because eithere we demand it or the ads. people do. the companys that run these mags. now days don't care about what we want, they only think of the bottom dollar. so if you want to see things happen in the mag. you must hit them hard, the question is though is were.

typing these last 2 post has made me think about a couple of things. so i am going to start a new post to ask a couple of questions and i hope it might shed some light on all our questions.



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Originally posted by: hillbillyangler on 8/27/2007 12:51:35 PM

nice post man , makes ya think. I like the mag , But I agree , to many adds , and junk. I wanna read about what yall are doin , catchin , and so forth. Not what some pro fella is doin or what there doin on the kentucky river , shoot I thought thats why each state has a DNR web site for? LOL If I wanted Viagra , I see my doctor not read my fishin clubs magazine. LOL I tell ya to be honest , When i get the mag each month ( Or so ) I go directly to the members stuff , Pics , letters and reports , I skip 3/4's of the junk , and I try to tear out the add's and stuff but as of late its really hard do to them being on every page. Look I know it takes money and so forth to run a club , But I can't remember when i saw Steve Pennaz out of a job <!--graemlin:;)-->

Originally posted by: mr bill on 8/28/2007 3:21:32 PM

i woud like to see some of the old articals [styll that is] like have the pros right some of these articals. i bet most off them wouldn't know where to start.

i don't mind to hear were the best chance to get a state record or maybe a world record. but what are the chances of any one of us getting a state record let alone a world record.

in my 50 yrs. of fishing i have come close or did catch a record, but i really didn't/don't care. the one record i do now i could of had even if it would have been for a month or so. i caught a king salmon in late july the very first year the state of michigan had a mature salmon run in our rivers. this fish was 52 lbs, i was only 14 at the time. fishing the little manistee river for browns on a weekend canoe trip with my boyscout troop.

my last really nice size fish i caught was just two yrs. ago. i caught an 18lb. northern pike.

as i said before, i just want some of you to think about what we have missed and were we are haeded. go ahead and speak your mind. i do fell sorry for the younger kids because they have no idea what has already been missed and also what we have had to go through to get were we are today. the good and the bad.



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Originally posted by: mr bill on 8/29/2007 10:44:14 AM

in the other post i made a challenge to the youngsters and to us old geezers to learn or teachthings of the old and the new. lately i have been able to set back and read a lot of posts. i have found that every where on the board we find our little nich and post, ask questions respond to questions asked. i hear alot of the same questions asked over again and again just asked in a different form. i have seen articals in the mag. do the samething. take something that has been used in the late 50's or 60's, rewrite it and call it something new.
a good exsample is dropshoting, i was tought this methiod by an old freind when i was only about 8 yrs. of age, he was in his late 60's. i've seen many more articals like this.

as i said before i am just wanting to have everyone think about what has been fought for so we can enjoy our favorite sports.

mr bill



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Originally posted by: flymaster5 on 8/29/2007 1:55:33 PM

me bill
I must applaued your honesty listening (reading)to you is like I am hearing my passed away uncle
telling me to fish and when what to do how to do it. I was a member about 15 years ago but go very disapointed with all the adds and gimics
in the mag most of them had nothing to do with where I fish and what kind of fishing I do.
So I cancled my supscription I thought I would give it a try again this year and I see not much has changed except there is more adds and gimmices now than ever. I bearly even look at the mag when it comes my son who is now 17 reads it more than I do. He has been fishing since he was 5 and I constly tell him that not all you read is true he want to try this and try that because the pros say so.
I was taught to fish by my father salt water
mostly and fly and fresh water by my uncle.Both men I have a great respect for. I myself have been fishing for almost 40 years and I do miss the the stories and tips from the old days you can't be experince. So I say to all the young people who starting to fish listen to people like MR. BILL pick there brain there is lots of knowelge in there.
Thanks again mr bill for bringing it back to me.

A quick note my biggest fish I evere caugh was a 97 inch 104 pound Carbian sail fish which I caught In Cancun in 2006.
It now hangs in my den.

Originally posted by: mr bill on 9/6/2007 3:23:38 PM

there is a lot of different things i would like to post here, but i feel like i am just barking at the moon.

i do want to thank those that have posted that they had to stop and think about somethings going on in this world.

a question about those that are life members. are you putting the money that would have cost them for an annual script into something that is helping to perserve our hertiage or not. something like wildlife for ever, or something like that. name a few you think would be good to donate to.



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Originally posted by: flymaster5 on 9/10/2007 5:56:42 AM

I would love to see some more articles on fishing in New England fresh and salt water.

Anybody from the middle part of the country
know what it is like to hookinto a 40 inch plus
srtipper with only 16 pound test.
Thats fighting a fish.

Originally posted by: mr bill on 9/19/2007 10:23:40 AM

don't know if it will happen here. but if you can have a look at the hunting clubs web site. you are not going to like it if you are complaining about this web site. i wonder what the new mag is going to be like.

if you look and don't like read what i posted earlyer in this post and think.

mr bill



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Originally posted by: Karl/PA on 9/19/2007 8:37:00 PM

I would love to see an apology for all the grief the advertisers here are creating with their spam advertising.

Originally posted by: Clay Derochie on 9/20/2007 9:05:17 AM

Hi There,

I'm new here and thought I'd get my feet wet.

I would like to see some articles on how to get started in some of the areas of fishing I would like to explore. For example, what are the first steps a guy or gal should take that is interested in fly fishing.

Clay

Originally posted by: mr bill on 9/21/2007 6:08:10 AM

hi clay, first like to welcome you to the fishing bb

second go to the fly fishing forum and you will get a lot of info. myself i could tell you the basics, but thear are guys there that are half my ago and 10 times better at explaining how to then i could.

good luck and hope to see ya more on the board <!--graemlin::cool:-->



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Originally posted by: phantomtoo on 9/21/2007 5:58:13 PM

I would like to see the section below this one up-dated.

It's been December/January 2006-07 for almost a year!

Originally posted by: bayliner on 9/22/2007 1:37:35 PM

I would like to see a few articles about fly fishing and some about fishing in New Mexico.

Originally posted by: mr bill on 9/23/2007 6:52:14 PM

i hear ya frank.



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Originally posted by: bayliner on 9/24/2007 5:53:56 AM

I like the idea of Warm water species - bass, pike, carp also. Excellent idea.....

Originally posted by: greenlantern on 9/24/2007 3:05:27 PM

quote:

Originally posted by flymaster5:
me bill
I must applaued your honesty listening (reading)to you is like I am hearing my passed away uncle
telling me to fish and when what to do how to do it. I was a member about 15 years ago but go very disapointed with all the adds and gimics
in the mag most of them had nothing to do with where I fish and what kind of fishing I do.
So I cancled my supscription I thought I would give it a try again this year and I see not much has changed except there is more adds and gimmices now than ever. I bearly even look at the mag when it comes my son who is now 17 reads it more than I do. He has been fishing since he was 5 and I constly tell him that not all you read is true he want to try this and try that because the pros say so.
I was taught to fish by my father salt water
mostly and fly and fresh water by my uncle.Both men I have a great respect for. I myself have been fishing for almost 40 years and I do miss the the stories and tips from the old days you can't be experince. So I say to all the young people who starting to fish listen to people like MR. BILL pick there brain there is lots of knowelge in there.
Thanks again mr bill for bringing it back to me.

A quick note my biggest fish I evere caugh was a 97 inch 104 pound Carbian sail fish which I caught In Cancun in 2006.
It now hangs in my den.

Originally posted by: flymaster5 on 9/25/2007 12:51:22 PM

Thanks GL for the response. That is how I got my son hooked on fishing cacthing a bunch of sunfish with worms.
I too am a mono man but my reels are better
and I still have a glass rod that I use some times. The pros make their living at fishing
I fish because I enjoy it and find it relaxing
maybe the mag can get back to the more peaceful
times of fishing.
Jack

Originally posted by: mr bill on 9/25/2007 5:23:11 PM

i'll applude that.



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Originally posted by: WalleyeWayne on 9/25/2007 6:30:45 PM

I haven't received an NAFC mag in many moons <!--graemlin::eek:-->. Do they still publish one <!--graemlin::confused:-->.