Many members have taken the inititaive to start events for fellow members, such as the annual meets and the state Chapters. At one point, the club even mentioned those events in the magazine, but due to some problems, which I will not go into detail here, have changed that to our disadvantage. We now can only resort to the "Forum" (former BB) to get the word out to members in reference to upcoming events. But it is those events which get the members together and benefit the club by us getting the name of the NAFC out to the public. It may be hard to believe, but there are many fishermen/women, as well as stores such as Academy and Bass Pro Shops, who DO NOT know what the NAFC actually is. It is us members who raise the awareness and recruit new members to the club.

Wouldn't it be just fair to us, and ouur efforts, to have the club support us by mentioning events in the magazine again? Perhaps even have editors join us at the meets or chapter events and see for themselves that we are good people with a passion for fishing and reaching out to the communities?

This is just food for thought, and I for one, do not count on the club to change their ways and views on our cause.

Kai Life Member South-Texas Chapter Chairman 2337 Posts on old Forum/BB

Kaiman!~

I agree witrh your comments 100%, but you are "beating a dead horse" here, believe me!

"Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around Life Member VFW. Had 4,000 + posts under old ID

 

Doc, I know what you're saying, but this is a new year and just maybe they do decide to get involved in what we are doing. Am I counting on it? NO!! But we will never know for sure if we won't try.

Here's an idea: Why don't we send pictures and short reports to the club's editors every time we had an event, such as the annual meets and the chapter meetings? If they see and read the how civilized they are, and what we are actually doing at those events, they may just change their minds. Well, just food for thought.

Kai Life Member South-Texas Chapter Chairman 2337 Posts on old Forum/BB

Kaiman:

 

Here's something for ya!  Last year I had the local TV station at our meet and they provided me with a small video that was on the local news channel.  I sent this, along with an article in the Local "Gwinn Quarterly" to Kurt at the club, along with photo's of the wedding of Pappy-D and his wife Deb.  To date I have not read or heard ANYTHING from the club regarding the material I forwarded to them, although it was pretty heavely indicated that they would use the information to print an article in 07.  Well that was in June of 07 and it is now Jan 08, and nothing!!!!!!!!  If this is any indication., I for one am not holding my breath any!  And they wonder why members are not happy!!!!!!!

 

But I wish you a lot of luck in your endeavors regarding this.

"Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around Life Member VFW. Had 4,000 + posts under old ID

All this makes one wonder what the administration is thinking what sort of people the club's members are?

I herewith invite any members of the administration to our annual Texas meet this year to see for themselves that we are civilized and just a bunch of fishing enthusiasts.

Kai Life Member South-Texas Chapter Chairman 2337 Posts on old Forum/BB

WHY ARE YOU SKYCOP NOW? (whatever) KAIMAN always cared about all us fighting, and debateing in this club, and he allways is there when one of us needs a sole like him who gets this thing that seems out of hand, i for one will allways wach for kaimans input in this club... jim

 

during the difficult times of the Club's rebirth, it was hard to re-enroll and keep your old screen names.  some of us got lucky and others had to pick new names that had significant meanings for us.  Let me tell you that Bill/Doc/Skycop has always been there for us.  I've seen some of the stuff he's sent to the club, which for some unknown reason, that they haven't shown any interest in.  but, in spite of these repeated slaps to the face, Bill is hanging in there and still contributing.
here fishy, fishy, fishy - 3230 posts and counting

kaiman, i agree with ya as for keep on the clubs toes and maybe, just maybe they will start doing for the members again. yes walleyeguy kaiman has been a champion for us members, i have read his imput along with many others that have been for us members. skycop/doc is also one of those guys from here in michigan and i would like to say i would be honored to meet any and all this men and women that have been the back bone of us members. i'll stand behind and with all that have a true saying for the people and not for them selves.

i'm starting to ramble so i'll step down from my sap box and everyone have a great day and take care.

I appreciate y'alls kind words. Thank you!

 

If we band together in some of the issues, like this one, we perhaps get some response from the club and things may change. It's just a matter of numbers, the more members get involved the sooner the administration will react, and us being vigilant. If we slack in our efforts we will not be taken seriously.

 

I guess I am getting tired of the club ignoring us members and them getting the kudos off of our efforts and work. WE are the ones who take the initiative to get things rolling and all we would like is just a bit more support from the club. Little things, such as a short note in the magazine, goes a long way to get more people and organizations involved.

 

Again, thank you for your moral support and kind words.

Kai Life Member South-Texas Chapter Chairman 2337 Posts on old Forum/BB

it would be nice if theclub recognized some of the stuff we as members are doing.  We had a nice outing with the Big and Little Brothers and Sisters at the Gwinn Meet in 2006.  A lot of people chipped in and all the kids got a new pole and tackle box to go with a nice meal.  In 2007, we had a wedding at the Meet.  I know other members like Muskygirl are doing stuff for and with underprivileged kids.  I think it's time that the club recognized our efforts and chipped in.
here fishy, fishy, fishy - 3230 posts and counting

Those are the things I am talking about. Instead on concentrating on the bad things that happened some time ago, start the healing and report about those things. Thanks Pillman for that info.
Kai Life Member South-Texas Chapter Chairman 2337 Posts on old Forum/BB

If I'm not mistaken, this threat is called "Ask the Editors". Okay, I've asked a question, but no answer from any Editor. What gives?? If those people don't take their time to answer these questions, why have this threat at all?? It seems that they gave us some pacefiers and leave us hanging.

 

I don't like to complain or cause problems, but I seriously am getting tired of being ignored. I enjoy the BB and its members, but it wouldn't hurt if the club is getting involved a bit more.

 

Again, I invite any Editor to join us at the annual Texas meet, as well as to any of our South-Texas Chapter meetings. Unfortunately, though, no one will ever take me up on those invitations, from the club that is.

 

 

Kai Life Member South-Texas Chapter Chairman 2337 Posts on old Forum/BB

Kaiman:

I in no way am in disagreement with any of your efforts.,  in fact I support them 100% as I stated earlier.  I have also stated that I have forwarded numerous articles and photo's and local news coverage items of the Gwinn Meets in the past to the club with negative results.  I also have called the Club and have spoken to one of the "editors" and still no answer or results.  I have also invited members of the NAFC Staff to attend meets, again no response.  I will continue to write to them with regards to publishing articles about the various member meets.

With regards to my "new handle" as Pillman stated the "new site" would not let me log in under my old one thus I chose "Skycop".  The name is in reference to the "job" I had in the Air Force., Air Police., Security Police whatever you want to call it now a days as we were called "Skycops" by members of other AF organizations.  Thus "Skycop".  Hope that answers your question.

Keep plugging Kaiman as I will also be doing so.

Thanks for letting me bend your ear!!!!

"Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around Life Member VFW. Had 4,000 + posts under old ID

It is a poor statement for the club administration that they ignore us in so many ways. We take our time, efforts, and money to put the meets and chapters together, in the name of the NAFC. We even started looking for sponsors for our chapter events, away from the club since I don't expect any support from them anyway. But I bet that as soon as some of our ideas take off and get more and more positive attention by the media, the club will try to get in on the kudos.

 

I keep haunting the club, the administration, and the editors until something is resolved. We need more support from the ones who took our membership money.

Kai Life Member South-Texas Chapter Chairman 2337 Posts on old Forum/BB

Walleye77:

I hope my response to you answered your quesion as to why I change my name.  As I stated I am not against what Kaiman is posting as I have done a lot of wrting to the club on this issue with no response from the editors, let alone the so called administrator of this site.  In one of my letters I informed the editor aboout the members not extremely pleased with the "new * improved" site, along with the loss of the chat room and other option we had on the old site and still no response.  Do not know what else you are looking for from me as an individudal here.  I fully support what Kaiman is attempting and I support his efforts 100%.

"Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around Life Member VFW. Had 4,000 + posts under old ID

Just a thought Kaiman, why don`t you run this by all the other chapters?  Post it in each state section. I`m sure they would all support what you are saying and there is a power in numbers. Maybe enough to turn a few heads if we are all standing together.

 

 

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BILL? SKYCOP? , your one of the guys i follwed in this club when i joined, when you changed your name on the BB as this  i thiught it was this new thing? And i dont agree with this new thing around here! (not you) what the BB did, my respect  will allways be with you bill, and others i followd in this club? It seems that alot of us are not on the same page, but we will not forget what we wrote, or said with each other, and i miss that bill,,,   jim    PS   (i expect your best bill), cuz i miss that in members,,, 

Walleye 77:

I appreciate your post and I hope you understand the reason I HAD to change my name "handle".  Some of the members were lucky enough to be able to retain their "original" name. For some reason this "system" would not accept mine when I had to re-register???  I hope I did not up-set you by my answer. I will continue to back Kaiman in his efforts.  Thanks for listening.

"Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around Life Member VFW. Had 4,000 + posts under old ID

Thanks for your support skycop. I wish there were more like you, people who support a fellow member who's trying to change things for the better. It makes me feel appreciated. Thanks again!
Kai Life Member South-Texas Chapter Chairman 2337 Posts on old Forum/BB

YOUR ALLWAYS MR BILL TO ME FROM MICHIGAN, Thats how i folowd you guys, sarry i spouted off doc, but i was so disapointed in how they changed us??? I am WALLEYEGUY, not walleyeguy77! They did that to me too!!! Hell, i dont know skycop? (looks like someone takeing over your old post's that i enjoyed) These new threads here suck? Its what i have read 6 years ago? I find myself ansering a question i did 6 years ago??? Lets keep trying to make this club a better one bill, you are a fore father here, and alot of us respect, and follow you and your integrety in makeing us a club, (im proud to be among you)   jim