kaiman
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| 11 Jan 2008 04:56 AM |
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walleyeguy77 wrote: YOUR ALLWAYS MR BILL TO ME FROM MICHIGAN, Thats how i folowd you guys, sarry i spouted off doc, but i was so disapointed in how they changed us??? I am WALLEYEGUY, not walleyeguy77! They did that to me too!!! Hell, i dont know skycop? (looks like someone takeing over your old post's that i enjoyed) These new threads here suck? Its what i have read 6 years ago? I find myself ansering a question i did 6 years ago??? Lets keep trying to make this club a better one bill, you are a fore father here, and alot of us respect, and follow you and your integrety in makeing us a club, (im proud to be among you) jim It seems we have lost a lot of the old members. But perhaps they had to change their names, too, just like you guys. I was one of the lucky ones, I guess, who were able to use their old name. I remember y'all as Doc and Walleyeguy, but what about some of the others?? I fear that many have decided not to sign-up for the "new forum" due to hassle, or being treated as "guest" rather then a member of lifer. It's a shame!!!! Kai
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skycop
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| 11 Jan 2008 10:54 AM |
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Hey Walleyeguy & Kaiman! Thanks for the responses and your comments, especially yours walleyeguy! I really appreciate them. Kaiman: I know what you mean about members deciding to leave the Club because of the run around they are receiving here lately. For example, walleyemen from Canda. He is getting a run around about logging in as a guest and has beem a member for 3 years! He called Customer Service to ask about the problem and life membership and still has not received a response from the club. I wrote Kurt, editor of the magazine yesterday on walleyemen's behalf and explained the situation to him and he (Kurt) stated that he has "passed it on to the IT Staff" and for them to perform some "damage control" with walleyemen. We shall see what develops. I just wish that the "administrators" of this site would just sit down at a table and review some of these comments and really listen to the members. Or like they used to do, drop into the chat room and talk to some of the members that are in there. That's how some of the older members got the Member M<eet section going, if you remember. It sure would not hurt them any to spend a few minutes actually "talking" to us in the room for example.(Which by the way you can still access through the NAFC temp BB, it case you did not know). Well I guess I have been on the soap box long enough here. 4554 posts under the old club site! "Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around Life Member VFW. Had 4,000 + posts under old ID |
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kaiman
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| 11 Jan 2008 12:44 PM |
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I too remember when the Editors frequented the BB and the chat. Those "good" times seem to be over, for now at least. They used to care and took our input and criticism and tried to work on the problems that were taking place at the time. Have you seen the spma adds on here?? They wouldn't have been there for as long as they are now on the old BB. Change is good, if it is done right. I am not complaining about the "new Forum" or the new website. Granted, it's not perfect, but I guess they are still working on getting the kinks out of the syatem and get to work right. But they, the Editors and/or Administration, should frequent the forum a bit mmore and in depth. After all, this threat is called "Ask the Editors". I am still waiting to get a response from them. the next step will be for me to send them an e-mail. Just as I did with the member store, which still needs a lot of improvement. I need more support from the fellow members on this issue. I know that there are many meets and chapters nationwide now. I'd like to see the chairpeople of those chapters/meets to join in and get the recognition in the magazine our efforts deserve. Kai
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kaiman
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| 15 Jan 2008 01:26 PM |
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I still don't see any response from the editors. Perhaps that's why the new forum doesn't have the feature where we can see who's online anymore. The administration may think that this will go away if they ignore it, but I will be persistant until I get a definite answer. I, once again, would likme to thank the members who have supported me in this quest. Perhaps more will join in and make their voices heard. After all, tis is something that effects all of us, at one point or another. Kai; Life Member;
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kaiman
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| 21 Jan 2008 06:37 PM |
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Still nothing from the administration!? And it seems that the interest in this issue has seized all together. Nonetheless, I will try to go on, as long as I can. I can not, and will not, rest on this issue. It is too important for all of us. Even if one things that it doesn't effect him/her right now, it eventually will in thhe future. Just wait. Kai; Life Member;
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retired-psg
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| 21 Jan 2008 07:19 PM |
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hang in there Kaiman, I too would like to see that brought back along with the chat room. I have also asked them but like you have gotten no response. Lou Retired-psg /Infantry,Purple Heart and a Few others, VietNam Vet, Ex Deputy Sheriff SCCSD, and all around good Guy! Living in Wisconsin |
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davesett2000
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| 23 Jan 2008 06:24 PM |
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skycop wrote: Hey Walleyeguy & Kaiman! Thanks for the responses and your comments, especially yours walleyeguy! I really appreciate them. Kaiman: I know what you mean about members deciding to leave the Club because of the run around they are receiving here lately. For example, walleyemen from Canda. He is getting a run around about logging in as a guest and has beem a member for 3 years! He called Customer Service to ask about the problem and life membership and still has not received a response from the club. I wrote Kurt, editor of the magazine yesterday on walleyemen's behalf and explained the situation to him and he (Kurt) stated that he has "passed it on to the IT Staff" and for them to perform some "damage control" with walleyemen. We shall see what develops. I just wish that the "administrators" of this site would just sit down at a table and review some of these comments and really listen to the members. Or like they used to do, drop into the chat room and talk to some of the members that are in there. That's how some of the older members got the Member M<eet section going, if you remember. It sure would not hurt them any to spend a few minutes actually "talking" to us in the room for example.(Which by the way you can still access through the NAFC temp BB, it case you did not know). Well I guess I have been on the soap box long enough here. 4554 posts under the old club site! "Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around Life Member VFW. Had 4,000 + posts under old ID Doc...you can stay on THAT soapbox as long as you want...and for that matter...if there's room for ME on it...I'll get up there TOO {BIG GRIN - WINK} Life Member David BB Linkmeister US Army '78-'85 West Coast Member of da EH! Team Kangaroo Kounty Razzer-in-Chief  |
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pillman
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| 23 Jan 2008 07:20 PM |
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I'd like to talk the the editors, not "talk to the hand" here fishy, fishy, fishy -
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stealthfisher
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| 25 Jan 2008 10:33 AM |
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I just spoke to the Reps on the phone again today. They were supposed to send me a catolog of the NAFC items which they offer for sale and send me a test product. That was a month ago. I mentioned some of the concerns that I have seen other members talk about on the BB.( The Chat Room, The member store, The revamped BB missing alot of important data, The inabilty of the club to become more active with it's present members....) They are nice to talk to, but, they have limited knowledege and it seems they have little or NO abliity to communicate any concerns to a "Higher Power" that could Or Would affect change. Heck , the one Rep didn't even fish or hunt !!! (maybe he was a handyman or a avid gardener) Lets face it folks. One of OUR members wrote a revealing thread ( I wish I could find it on the BB. It seems to have possibly vanished, Go figure!) about the sale by the owners of the NAFC, NAHC and the other clubs, to a new owner. A huge corporation with a marketing strategy. In a nutshell, They are seeking ways to gain new membership and capture an audience of potential purchasers for alot of club oreinted marketed products. We are only seen as potential purchasers. A question I asked was, to assist in gaining new members, would it be in the Owners best interest to keep the existing Members happy. Who better to help spread the word then Us, the members. Her response was, " Is there anything else I can help you with today?" Like I said , LITTLE or NO ABILITY To COMMUNICATE concerns to someone who WOULD or COULD affect change! I've paid my dues and I am forever a Life member, that I can't change. Oh yeah, I'll get the last laugh when I die and don't tell them and they keep sending the Magazine to my widow. I do enjoy the ability to converse with our members on a variety of topics. Give and receive onfo on fishing and just life in general. The Nafc doesn't know or appreciate how important a member perc that is. Dan "Stealthfisher" Doc NAFC LIFE MEMBER I FISH, THEREFORE I AM <*(((>>>< ><<<)))*>   |
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turnip
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| 25 Jan 2008 07:47 PM |
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It is called RESPECT! There is none here except between members. That is the only reason why I post here, fellow members. LM since 2005
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Basser1
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| 26 Jan 2008 10:28 AM |
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Well Pete you summed it up in one word! The OH Chapter isn't standing still we are moving forward and onward we are having our monthly planning meetings and are busy planning our May meet! I clap my hands for the NAFC for one thing.....getting us OH members together other than that who knows. I am still considered a club member (pending email notification)???? I have been a member since 1989 and a lifer since 2005 and yet the admin of theis site which sent me an email the other day to say we don't see a problem???? I did get a letter in the mail on Dec 3rd saying I won the Great Gear Giveaway in OCT/NOV but that is all I got so far of course the said the prize would arrive approximately in 6 weeks...I guess that is the out. I also bought 2 hats and 3 shirts from the club also on Dec 21st and have yet to recieve those. I am doing my best to support the club but I am expending more energy than they are in tyring to keep us members happy! I guess I climbed up on my on soap box sorry people. Keep your chins up like Pete said it is us members that we are here for! Life Member since 05 |
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kaiman
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| 30 Jan 2008 06:40 PM |
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turnip wrote: It is called RESPECT! There is none here except between members. That is the only reason why I post here, fellow members. LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif I agree 100% with your statement. Respect is what's laking from the club. BTW, love that pic. One of the best ones here!! Kai; Life Member;
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walleyeguy77
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| 01 Feb 2008 04:15 AM |
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Kaiman, 6 years ago when i came here you were one that i heard in this CLUB that wanted us newbees to go ahead with all we beleived in , WHY DID THEY NOT LISTEN TO US!!! And here we are still bitchin, nothing has changed, I guess that tells me something, our thoughts dont matter, i found if you talk to the members that love this site the way it allways was, they will set you strait on how you made a wave and you should go with this flow???? |
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walleyemen
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| 01 Feb 2008 08:55 AM |
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The bottom line is we the members are the club!!They just own the name and rights, to them this is a business but to us it is a familly, Alot of us are angry with what has happened but in reality nothings going to be done about it, i find it upsets alot of us on here(myself included) but we got to stick together and not argue and bicker with our selves, it just fuels the fire, Let's all get back to what we know best and that's fishing!!Have a problem doing something on the site ask davesette, he'll help ya, i'm sure!!Botom line here is we got to make things work , if not we give up everything! we have to make a stand to make things better because nobody else will!!The member meets are a good example, they have absolutly nothing to do with the corperate club, they could care less! We as members make them what they are, Do you really think they could come up with something as good as these meets.., never! To actually meet in person the people you speak with each day and fish with them is priceless!! A good example of this is 2 years ago in gwinn, I show up from canada, not knowing anybody , i pull in the driveway at Geno's and it's like a reunion, i sat down at a table started talking with 2 gentlemen Tom (canepole) and Warren (saskquatch), we all wanted to find some pike to catch, looked at the map found a possible spot, and made plans for the next morning, we hit this river and fished the crap out of it, there wasn't a square inch we didn't fish, lures flying everywhere's, 3 complete strangers in one boat fishing our brains out and not one tangle up at all, It was like we had fished together all our lives and new want the guy beside was going to do, needless to say we were gone along time and missed supper(we took some flac for that LOL), The bottom line is i made 2 very good freinds in which i speak to away from the club on a regular basis.I've meet many fine people inthis club and the corperate end had nothing to do with it, you the members did, and with out you guyz i would have never had the chance to meet such fine people. I have many freinds here for life and no matter what the club can't take that away from me!!!!!Remember who we are folks..... are a familly and a familly sticks together and always work thing out no matter how tough thing's get. TIGHTLINES!! Don't let your kid be the one that got away!!!!! |
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turnip
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| 01 Feb 2008 01:01 PM |
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Ya, I gotta agree with that statement. All we really need is a reliable place to communicat at. LM since 2005
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pillman
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| 01 Feb 2008 03:35 PM |
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here's all these people at Geno's place worrying that you broke down or something, and you're just fishing like 3 kids that didn't notice that the street lights came on 2 hours ago. here fishy, fishy, fishy -
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walleyemen
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| 01 Feb 2008 07:08 PM |
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Jim that couldn't have been said better LOL. Wow that was amazing day on the water, one i will never forget!! TIGHTLINES!! Don't let your kid be the one that got away!!!!! |
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canepole
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| 01 Feb 2008 07:51 PM |
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WOW.
I will never forget that day,, since that day I have had alot of really memoriable times on the water and each and every one special, but they get measured against that trip and none have come close, http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/medium/DSCF0439.JPG
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turnip
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fishnhunt
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| 01 Feb 2008 11:07 PM |
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HEY WALLEYEMEN--- YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. WELL SAID. WE HAVE GOT TO STICK TOGETHER AND IF WE DON'T THE CORPORATE WINS AND WE HAVE NOTHING BUT MEMORIES! IF YOUSTOP AND THINK ABOUT IT A LOT OF US WERE READY TO THROW IN THE POLE AND TO SAY "HECK WITH IT". I'M GLAD I GHANGED MY MIND AND SO DID YOU AND TURNIP. SO LETS GET ER DONE AND GET THIS GROUP BACK WHERE IT WAS!! FISH ON!!! BILL JOHNSON aka FISHNHUNT |
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