fisherfanatic
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| 20 Oct 2010 01:14 PM |
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They also could have a pretty good market here in the U.S., but a name like "Bighead Carp" would make most people turn their noses in discust. According to alot of people, Asian Carp taste pretty good. Maybe if someone showed the public how good they tasted and how to prepare them to eat on television, people would start fishing for them more. |
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mr bill
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| 26 Nov 2010 08:59 AM |
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i just read an artical on the ap news line thru yahoo about the big head carp being up the wabash river all the way to fort wayne indiana. the story says that there is a wet land area that feeds the wabash river along with the maumee river. which feeds lake erie, so now we have to worry about these fish entering the great lakes through a second lake.
the story was about the commericial fishing in canada along the north shore of lake erie and it was telling about how exotics in the great lakes has hurt that buisness and that if the asian carp did make it into the great lakes....we have heard it all before. then the story went on about the find in the wabash river and how they could now reach lake erie thru the flood plains of these 2 rivers. |
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fisherfanatic
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| 26 Nov 2010 10:12 AM |
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Pegsguy
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| 27 Nov 2010 01:35 PM |
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It really is a shame that the doom and gloom alarmist stories sell newspapers. The best information based on sound science is that the asian carp won't be able to reproduce in the lakes and there also is probably not enough food for them to survive. I will try and find a link to the University of Michigan study that outlines this. Tom |
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fisherfanatic
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| 27 Nov 2010 04:36 PM |
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They could not spawn in the main lake, but they could spawn in the tributaries. |
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dhanes
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| 28 Nov 2010 08:57 AM |
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They have been found this year in the Bellville pool of the ohio river this summer Dave |
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Pegsguy
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| 29 Nov 2010 08:11 AM |
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According to the research I have read asian carp require almost 40 miles of free-flowing water in order to spawn successfully. I am unaware of any Great Lakes tributary that has such a stretch. I believe this was addressed in the U Mich study. Tom |
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fisherfanatic
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| 29 Nov 2010 03:04 PM |
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Thank the good Lord!  |
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Pegsguy
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| 23 Jan 2011 09:32 AM |
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There hasn't been much news on this subject of late, although I did read a recent report that the Feds have comitted $45 mil to research on asian carp. Unfortunately part of the money is going to implement E-DNA testing. The problem with this is that it is an unproven technology that has yet to pass peer review which is a basic requirement for any scientific research. Tom |
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Pegsguy
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| 24 Feb 2011 10:13 AM |
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I read today that a University of Notre Dame study has concluded that there are no asian carp in the Great Lakes basin. Considering the study involved samples from only 3 rivers in a small geographic area and relied on E-DNA testing, I wonder how seriously anyone can take this news! Sounds like some researchers are using this as a meal ticket. Tom |
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Pegsguy
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| 04 Mar 2011 10:15 AM |
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I saw in the news this morning that the good folks in Michigan are playing their same old song again: Close the locks. Unfortunately, the locks are there to allow shipping to pass and as nice as closing them sounds, it isn't going to happen. Maybe the good people of Michigan would be willing to step up and help mitigate the economic damage closing the locks would cause. How come I never see the Michigan legislature going after the folks in Arkansas that created the problem?Tom |
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Pegsguy
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| 22 Mar 2011 06:15 PM |
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Just heard on the news that the Federal Govt. has banned the import of live asian carp into the U.S. Wow! Our govt is right on top of things aren't they? Tom |
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slipperybob
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| 22 Mar 2011 10:34 PM |
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There's enough fish farm for asain carp already, how's banning import going to make any difference? |
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fisherfanatic
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| 23 Mar 2011 04:57 AM |
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Posted By Pegsguy on 22 Mar 2011 07:15 PM
Just heard on the news that the Federal Govt. has banned the import of live asian carp into the U.S. Wow! Our govt is right on top of things aren't they? Tom They should have done that a decade ago.  |
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Pegsguy
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| 23 Mar 2011 02:18 PM |
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Nice to know someone besides me checks this! Actually, I think the first imports came in during the early 70's in an attempt to clean algae from catfish rearing ponds and sewage treatment lagoons. The Feds seem to be focused on prevention right now. The carp are here and it is doubtful we can do anything about that. The effort should be focused on finding a species specific predator, disease or poison that can limit the problem! I find it strange that Arkansas, where the problem started doesn't seem to have a problem and is doing nothing to help. Tom |
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ERABBIT
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| 24 Mar 2011 04:42 PM |
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U.S. Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark., says a law banning the transport of live Asian carp across state lines is unfair to fish farmers. Source: United Press International (3/23)
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Pegsguy
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| 25 Mar 2011 11:52 AM |
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Looks like Arkansas' contribution to this problem will be limited to causing it. Come to think about it, wasn't Hillary and her hubby the Gov of Ark. back then? Tom |
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ERABBIT
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| 29 Mar 2011 12:05 PM |
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Tighter regulations for Asian carp now in effect
Regional News
-- Tighter regulations have been placed on a type of Asian carp to prevent it from spreading from the Mississippi River to the Great Lakes.
WASHINGTON D.C - Tighter regulations have been placed on a type of Asian carp to prevent it from spreading from the Mississippi River to the Great Lakes.
President Obama signed the Asian Carp and Prevention Control Act in December, but the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service published its final rule this week and will now enforce it.
Under the Lacey Act, live bighead carp cannot be imported or transported over state lines. People can still fish for the species if they keep it in their state.
To the untrained eye, a bighead carp could be mistaken for a salmon, except it has a large head and low set eyes. The fish is now federally listed as injurious wildlife, meaning the bighead carp could be harmful to the environment.
The bighead carp has been found in the Mississippi River as far north as the St. Croix River. One reason for listing the species as injurious is to keep it out of the Great Lakes, where populations have yet to show up.
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Pegsguy
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| 29 Mar 2011 12:19 PM |
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Now that the horse is 15 miles down the road, let's lock the barn door quickly! What useless drivel. Is the Fedderal Govt. just making noise so that people think they are doing something? Funding research based on eDNA which is an unproven science at best, and now invoking the Lacy Act? Sounds to me like a waste of time and money diverting funding from research that might be helpful, like looking for a species specific toxin like the one used on lamprey. Tom |
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