Originally posted by: papa_d on 3/4/2006 3:30:11 PM

Lookin like kedepers to me Dave. I like that book to. Good pickins at the meet huh? <!--graemlin:;)-->

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 3/4/2006 5:09:23 PM

Not bad papa <!--graemlin:;)-->

That book is about various guys from Wisconsin that have made lures over the years....MANY pics... $15.00

Here's a few other goodies I got there at the show OR from sscasteel...many fishable, but some I plan on displaying in a glass encased coffee table <!--graemlin::eek:--> back in Wisconsin when I get there <!--graemlin::cool:-->



This second batch I bought from Steven...some fishabe, some not...



ANd here's a set of those silver Heddon spoons that sscasteel had asked us about...we still haven't been able to find any info about them <!--graemlin::(-->

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 3/7/2006 9:24:25 AM

Hi Dave: Thanks for the commplement about my lure knowledge but I will be honest, I am lost with lures from the 1950s to the present. I am a beginner compared to some of the guys I know collect but I do like helping other people if I can.
The only thing I could come up with about your Heddon Spoons is they were made in the late 1950s. There is a similar spoon of a smaller version in "Fishing Tackle @ Antiques @ Collectables Vol. #2 page 38 " and they date it around the late 1950s. Value of the lure they show is $20.00. Glad you had a good time.

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 3/7/2006 6:15:58 PM

Thanks Mike...I took a gander in Steven's books while I was there in KC, but there wasn't anything about them in there...

The tags definitely say Heddon on them though...and they definitely look factory <!--graemlin::)-->

Did you see that Shannon Twin-Spin spoon up above there <!--graemlin::D--> <!--graemlin::confused:-->

Here's a collection of redheads and spoons that I saw at the show <!--graemlin::cool:-->

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 3/18/2006 7:52:14 PM

I found this website today....

http://www.hfcollectibles.com/

Just found a few more <!--graemlin::D-->

http://www.fishingcollectables.com/

http://www.antiquefishingcollectibles.com/

http://www.oldlures.org/

http://www.fishingworks.com/antique_lures/

http://www.oldfish.com.au

http://www.nctimes.net/~rvperkins

http://www.oldreels.com

Originally posted by: papa_d on 3/18/2006 8:07:41 PM

Hey there David... Are you a collector also???. I don't think I heard you say or not???

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 3/18/2006 8:31:25 PM

Not really papa <!--graemlin::eek:-->

If I happen across something that fancies my eye...and I can get it for cheap, I may get it...

But I don't buy lures as investments or anything like that <!--graemlin:;)-->

I just hqppened across these sites this evening while looking for some other info...about fishing shows around the country. <!--graemlin::)-->

Originally posted by: papa_d on 3/19/2006 3:36:42 AM

I just noticed your interest and thought I'd ask... <!--graemlin:;)-->

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 3/19/2006 4:09:42 PM

You know me papa...if I can't be fishing, I'll be looking for info to share with others <!--graemlin:;)-->

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 4/3/2006 11:59:40 AM

One of the not so old lures that are very collectable at this time are the Bomber lures made in the late 1940s thru the 1950s. I guess I got hooked on them because of the sizes made and colors.
Bomber Bait Co. of Gainsville Texas made these in over 100 colors and in five sizes. The #200 was 1 3/4", #300 was 2 1/8", #400 was 2 3/8", #500 was 2 3/4", @ #600 in 3" sizes and a heavy salt water in the 600 series. It was a great company but almost went under in 1949-1951 when they made the plastic Bomber. It was a total flop and the lure never made it. I have over 60 now in different colors and there popularity is really comming back. They made a no-eye Bomber in the #400,500,600 series in 1946. If you have one with red bead eyes it is extreamly rare and will fetch $300.00 to $500.00 in great condition.There were flyrod Bombers made in the 1950s that were 1 1/4" that brings $250.00 plus in good condition.
The wood ones you can tell by the screw that holds the bill on.Most Bombers have a black pupil with orange shaded eyes and cup hardware. Like I said they are becomming very popular to collectors and some colors are hard to find. The most popular being the #15 color in Christmas Tree.

Originally posted by: Col. Angus on 4/4/2006 9:14:44 AM

OK...dnagit. Forget you guys......
As i sit here and look at my piddly collection of 15 or 20 reels, then my 9 rods and reels. About 30 or so lures. I am gonna make my wife look at these pics, so she knows I have not yet begun to collect !!!!!

Good on ya boys.....thanks for the pics and info.

Originally posted by: woo2 on 4/4/2006 5:26:11 PM

Hey ya'll,

Be very careful, there is a hair thin line between hobby and obsession. I know this because i've crossed it a long time ago.

Tom

Originally posted by: papa_d on 4/4/2006 6:58:17 PM

You got that right Tom... I like that Frog you did. I'm working one a "Usable" pike lure now myself. Put it right line with order of other things first!!! <!--graemlin::rolleyes:-->

Originally posted by: woo2 on 4/11/2006 5:25:09 PM

Have you tried either of them yet ?
On the little Renoski, if you rub cold bacon greese on it, it will leave a trail that they can't resist.

Tom

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 5/3/2006 8:17:34 AM

I have a friend that got some old metal lures from a old timer that fished years ago. He wanted me to sell them for him on E-Bay and since I,m not into metal lures that much I agreed even tho I new he had some nice lures.
He had a lure called the Duel Spinner which was made by G.M. Skinner and was first produced in 1910 and had the #5 blades all original and the name G.M skinner on the blades. He also had a metal lure made by S Allcock of England which was produced in the 1914 era.This lure has 3 trible hooks, 2 in the front 1 in the rear with 6 metal beads down the lure.The front bead has a spinner on it with the Pat. date on it.
I was home and my friend called me and said are you watching the lures which I replyed yes i am.
I started all of them off at $9.99 and the Duel Spinner sold for $175.87 and the other went for $225.25. He was very happy man and didn,t realize metal lures sometimes depending what you have can bring so much money. Now he said he is going to get into this hobby himself but needs to really get the books and knowledge of lue collecting. Me personally I don,t sell the lures I collect but trade once in a while. I enjoy the history behind them and it,s a great pastime for me!!!!!

Originally posted by: papa_d on 5/3/2006 9:59:56 AM

You got that right Bud... On Ebay I've seen some lures go for well over $2000.00 There are very serious collector watching those sites daily. I heard of one being put up on that big "Christie's" auction place once; it went for a half million. I only heard; no proof!!! Papa_d

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 5/10/2006 11:04:24 AM

One company that acquired alot of the older ones was Pradco. In 1992 they acquired Smithwick Lures of Louisiana famous for there Devel,s Horse or Devil,s Horse, which ever way you want to spell it.
When they first made the Devel,s horse they wouldn,t spell it Devil,s Horse because they were scared it wouldn,t sell but by 1960 they started spelling it Devil,s.
Pradco bought alot of the older companies and produces many of the old lures of the past. Some of the companies are: Creek Chub Bait Co. of course Heddon, Bomber, Rebel, Lazy Ike, Whopper Stopper, South Port, @ Cotton Cordell. My feeling is I,m glad they still produce these lures but the quality will never be like the companies of the past.

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 5/24/2006 9:55:02 AM

I am ask many times by people starting to collect what is the first thing to do. I say to learn the "Grading System". It can be found on the N.F.L.C.C (National Fishing Lure Collectors Club)Go to Collector info then grading systems. Paint loss, aging, cracking, missing parts,chipping, all reduce the value of a lure. "Repaints" to the collector is a no value lure.
The next thing is collect what you can afford and a lure you like. I started with Heddon Sonics,then went to Heddon River Runts, and Heddon Crazy Crawlers, to wood Bombers, and now I collect Heddon Underwater Minnows which are quite expensive. I guess what I am trying to say is don,t collect junk or what we call beaters and do collect what you like and what you can afford and have fun doing it. I collect mostly wood lures from the 1900s to 1940s. But there are many lures out there in the modern era which bring alot of money. I don,t collect to buy and sell. I like the history behind the companies and will give my collection to my grandson or if he doesn,t have an interest will donate it to the Fishing Hall Of Fame. If you start collecting there are many collector books out there and one I would highly recommend is "Old Fishing Lures @ Tackle" by Carl F Luckey. If your going to collect modern lures I recommend "Modern Fishing Lure Collectables" by Russell E Lewis who has 5 books out now. Know what your collecting and it can be very rewarding in the end. Good Luck!!!!!

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 6/30/2006 8:02:25 PM

Thanks for the tips Mike <!--graemlin:;)-->

For those of you looking for books, you can find used copies by looking a ...

www.bookfinder.com

www.amazon.com

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Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 7/19/2006 3:54:45 PM

I was asked the other day if hook rigging is inportant in lure collecting and the answer is yes. Hook rigging can tell a collector alot about the company, the lure and when it was made. Some examples are the simple screw eye hook rig used in the early days but also now. Shakespeare wire clip rig circa;1906-1910. South Bend shallow cup rig circa:1910-1912. Phlueger with there famous Neverfail hook rig circa:1911.
Heddon in my opinion had the best hook rigging out of all the companies. One of there first was the gold washed brass cup hook rig circa: 1903-1905. Then they had the nickel cup rig circa:1906, followed by the Heddon Dummy Double football rig circa: 1913, then came the Heddon l-rig from 1914- 1934, then a heavy duty L rig in 1921, and one of the best was the heddon toilet seat rig from 1927- 1935. Heddon 2 piece flap rig started in 1936, and they had the bar rig in 1927.
As you can see just by these examples of knowing the rigging of certain lures or the eyes they used, glass, tack, painted what the lure will tell you. Knowing the rigging, eyes, colors, may sometimes stop you from paying top dollar for a lure which is only worth a few bucks.