Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 8/15/2006 2:29:54 PM

Heddon Copies:
I just picked Heddon Bait @ Tackle Co. because there my favorite company who made lures and many other things.Heddon was the leader in plastics from 1930s untill there sale to EBSCO in 1983.Millsite of Howell Mich.gave Heddon alot of competition.
Once the Japanese started producing lures for such companies as Herter,sit was easy to produce lures that looked like Heddon.And they would do it before Heddon could get an injunction to stop production. Atlantic @ Herter,s are the most famous coppiers.
Herters copied Heddons River Runts which sale for $20.00.The Revelation was made in Japan and looked like the River Runt.Abu copied the Hi-Lo. Japan also makes the Tiny Lucky 13s,China also made Lucky 13s.China also copied the Heddon Sonics and called it the DI-36. The Supersonic was copied by Atlantic Lures.South Bend copied the Optic and other companies did the same.
The thing to learn here if you are a collector is know what your buying. Always look for the Heddon name and make sure it isn,t stamped Japan, China, Herters. It,s best to know your hardware because most of these companies used cheap hardware,know your eye shades and colors, paint jobs, and shapes.And watch out for Repaints.

Originally posted by: papa_d on 8/16/2006 2:48:42 AM

OK Mike; I'm doing the Muskegon Flea Market this morning. I'll run the Booths before I set up and look for Hedden lures for yas. But if I find anything I think looks older than me I'll pick that up for yas too. <!--graemlin::D--> Papa_d

Originally posted by: woo2 on 8/16/2006 3:05:42 AM

Hey Papa,

I'm going to the Deland Farmers Flea market this morning ,you looking for anything in particular.I f so tell me what and max price.

Tom

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 8/16/2006 5:43:05 AM

Thanks Papa: Have a good time!!!!!!

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 8/28/2006 10:23:54 PM

SO did you guyz find anything <!--graemlin::confused:-->

Originally posted by: woo2 on 8/29/2006 2:47:42 AM

Yea I picked up the reel I've been hunting pieces for. It works great just needed the cosmetic pieces. Now I don;t need them, because I made the ones I needed, form aluminum and wood. Going to paint the pieces and mount on a rod and put it in the truck. Any time ya'll are looking for something, let me know what and max price, and I can look at the farmers flea market down here. There is always an abundance of fishing stuff there.

Tom

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 9/12/2006 12:30:09 PM

This a Heddon King Basser I picked up a few years ago. It is wood made in the 1940s with huge teddy bear eyes.

Originally posted by: papa_d on 9/12/2006 1:07:44 PM

I'm still looking for you Mike... <!--graemlin::D-->

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 9/12/2006 2:00:56 PM

Thanks Papa: Going up to the Pere Marquette River tomarrow for 6 days to try to get some of thoes king salmon. I love this time of the year for fishing. I would like to get a few but being out on the river with my wife and seeing her get one again this year would be great. Will let you know how we do!!!
Mike

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 9/12/2006 5:15:47 PM

Have a great trip Mike <!--graemlin:;)-->

Originally posted by: papa_d on 9/12/2006 5:32:34 PM

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Barrett:
Thanks Papa: Going up to the Pere Marquette River tomarrow for 6 days to try to get some of thoes king salmon. I love this time of the year for fishing. I would like to get a few but being out on the river with my wife and seeing her get one again this year would be great. Will let you know how we do!!!
Mike

Originally posted by: KickBassKid102 on 9/14/2006 7:40:30 PM

I say anyone that ever owned more than one lure is a collecter!! <!--graemlin::D-->

Originally posted by: papa_d on 9/15/2006 3:16:33 AM

Gotta agree KBK... I have 50 or more that I've never used!!! <!--graemlin::eek:--> <!--graemlin::D-->

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 11/1/2006 11:47:49 AM

In this day and time there are what I call the big 6 companies in the biggest demand across America.
(1)Heddon
(2)Creek Chub Bait Co.
(3)South Bend
(4)Pflueger
(5)Shakespeare
(6)Paw Paw
They also are the companies with the highest prices. As a collector of lures I will not go broke for a lure I really want and can't afford and I suggest for you to do the same. I also can't stress enough the inportance of condition of the lures you may buy. You may think you have a nice lure but if there is alot of age cracks, chips, paint loss,poor color or parts missing, this really brings this lures value down.
I have been collecting the Bombers from 1947-1948 and there heavy duty bombers and no eye bombers from the Bomber Bait Co. because they are a great buy and becomming very collectable.
Don,t forget about the smaller companies like Bear Creek, Buckeye Baits, Burke, Pico,@ Bagley's, Cotton Cordell, Poe's Super cedar lures, Rebel lures of Pradco, Storm Lures @ Smithwick lures are a few. If you are a collector you are tending to keep them for some time. All these I have mentioned are going up in price and are becomming very collectable. The last thing I'll say if your not having fun doing it, don,t!!!!

Originally posted by: turnip on 11/4/2006 6:17:33 AM

Is one of these companies Rapala...I know that Rapala owns Storm... <!--graemlin::confused:-->

Pete <!--graemlin::D-->

Originally posted by: erabbit456 on 11/4/2006 1:17:20 PM

They bought them out Pete , so when he said Storm it's lures before the buy out.

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 11/12/2006 1:31:25 PM

What will make THAT difficult guyz is that Rapala went BACK to the original molds for several Storm lures this year, including Wiggle Warts, Hot-n-Tots and Rogues.

Too many fisherman stopped buying those baits after Rapala started using NEW molds...and changing the materials used to make them.

Originally posted by: papa_d on 11/12/2006 3:28:09 PM

When yer the Top Dog yas can buy out the second best!!! <!--graemlin::eek:-->

Originally posted by: Mike Barrett on 1/8/2007 12:51:43 PM

I just thought I would mention thinks to look for and know when you go to antique shops and you see a lure you want. In the past few years I have learned that antique dealers know what they are selling.
They have the books but one thing they do forget about is the condition the lure is in. I have had many dealers when I would ask if they would lower the price on a lure because of the condition and there reply would be no. They go by the price they find in there books and stick with it not being aware of the lures in the book are for lures in mint condition in there original boxes.
The best thing for any collector and it doesn't matter what you collect is know what you are collecting. A little research will give you information on the year it was made, who made it, what it was made of but condition, you are the one that has to judge the item. You may have a lure made in the 1920s that is worth $300.00 but the condition of it is missing paint, chips, crazing,cracked glass eyes,or someone changed the hardware and the lure has just dropped in price to 1/3rd the value. So in all do your research and always be aware of "Condition".

Originally posted by: panfisherteen on 1/18/2007 7:27:59 PM

look what i found <!--graemlin::D--> <!--graemlin::D--> <!--graemlin::D-->
http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=91140&hvarDept=100&hvarEvent=&hvarClassCode=5&hvarSubCode=3&hvarTarget=browse