bbrown18
 |
| 11 Aug 2009 09:15 AM |
|
Well here it goes I'm sure this topic is going to get me called everything from a cheapskate to just plain stupid but I'm gonna do it anyway. I think that fishing tackle, baits and lures in particular, have become a mass marketed cash cow for the big companies and are more about catching fishermen's money than they are about catching fish. I went to Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World this past weekend shopping for a couple new frogs, some swimbaits, and a Rapala jointed shad rap in the baby bass color to replace the one I lost last weekend. Well as I was going into the fishing section I see a bin in the middle of the main ailse with an assortment of crankbaits, poppers, jerkbaits, and even some jointed baits very similar to the shad rap for $1.99. They are an off brand, but look good and have a variety of colors available. I look through the bin then proceed into the fishing department to find what I had really come after. I get to the section with the Rapalas and the one I'm looking for is $7.49. My God, $7.49 for a little jointed crank bait! I'm not gonna pay that! So I go to the frogs, and the brand names in them are $8.99. I'm thinking that this is just plain ridiculous so I go on to the swimbaits and I almost faint. There are swimbaits over $20.00 a peice, not $20.00 + for a pack of 5 or 6, $20.00 for one bait. At that point I decide that this is just a rip off. If I pay over $20.00 for one lure it better catch a fish on every cast, swim it back to the boat, pull it out of the water, and drop it in the live well all while I sit comfortably and watch. So I go back to the $1.99 bin and pick out an assortment of baits. So here's the part that's gonna upset a few people. I think that all these high priced name brand lures are just rip offs designed to catch money not fish. I believe I could take one of the $1.99 lures and catch just as many if not more fish than someone fishing a comparable high priced lure. I think these over priced lures are more of a status symbol for the fisherman to make him feel better about his fishing, kind of like the man who thinks he has to wear an Armani suit or the woman who thinks she has to carry a Prada handbag when a suit or bag from JC Penny would work just as well. I hate to break it to you guys the fish can't read the Rapala name on the lip of that crankbait, and they could care less if you paid $20.00 or $2.00. |
|
|
|
|
AZAllen
Veteran Poster
Posts:2427
 |
| 11 Aug 2009 03:09 PM |
|
The $2 lures are knockoffs, when you buy a Rapala you are buying the reputation + the effort it took to design the lure, same for many other lures. I have walked through some of the pro shops in San Diego CA area and looking at prices and some of them are truly heart stopping, the $20 swimbaits seem fairly moderate in comparison.
As for the $2 lures, if they work for you, use them. |
|
| NAFC, NAHC, NRA, SASS, Viet Nam Vet. Bullhead City, AZ |
|
|
Lycotrout00
Advanced Poster
Posts:543
 |
| 11 Aug 2009 03:18 PM |
|
Hey bbrown.... I do agree that the top brands are better at catching fisherman than fish.Everyone has a box full of lures that don't work but they keep them and continue to try them cause there is always the chance that one day the fish may just bite at them.No lure no matter how expensive or inexpensive will catch fish if it's just tossed out and reeled in.You have to learn how to work the bait presentation has alot to do with what catches fish and what doesn't.The cheaper lures can catch fish just as good as top brand lures but sometimes you can't find a specific type of lure anywhere than from the more well known companies.I do think that the larger companies are kinda getting greedy. Sam, NAFC Life Member ,North Central PA   www.reinstatehank.org |
|
| Sam,NAFC LM '09 ,Angler Legacy Ambassador
|
|
|
fishnhunt
Veteran Poster
Posts:3632
 |
| 11 Aug 2009 04:09 PM |
|
Hey BBrown---All I can say is to each his own!! As AZ said," if it works for you use it". We all look for bargains. I am always on the lookout for good buys! I also have a lot of top name items and just as many of lesser cost. but it is not a good buy if you buy a cheapie and the hooks rust or break or just flat out deteriorate after using it a few times. I'm like you $20 for a lure is a little ridiculous but you can always leave it on the rack! Nuff said!!! BTW--Nobody should get uptight on your post as that is your opinion and does not hurt a soul! Good fishing to you. Bill J.  |
|
|
|
|
goinfshn
Advanced Poster
Posts:457
 |
| 11 Aug 2009 05:53 PM |
|
Hey, Bbrown. Let us know how they work out. I have used cheap lures and after the first time or two, they were rusted and unusable. Also check your hooks. Make sure they are sharp. When I buy any Heddon lures, the first thing I do is change the hooks. They come with dull hooks. Good luck Gary Life Member, Retired WV State Police, Retired SFC US Army. Poca, West Virginia |
|
| WV State Police Retired, US Army Retired |
|
|
Pegsguy
Veteran Poster
Posts:4095
 |
| 11 Aug 2009 06:09 PM |
|
I have a lot of Rapalas, Salmos and a few Cotton Cordells. The big difference to me is that these baits seem to run true out of the box, and the same cannot be said for the knockoffs. As I don't fish for Muskie, I see no reason to spend over $10 on a hard bait(or any lure for that matter). Buying name brands is no protection against cheap or dull hooks, I recently bought 6 C. Cordells at BPS and the hooks on them were worse than junk! This is why I keep an assortment of replacements handy along w/ my split ring pliers. Tom Fishin' fool in NE Illinois |
|
| Lifer in NE Illinois Gen. 1:28 I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become a vegitarian! |
|
|
turnip
Senior Poster
Posts:5638
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 06:51 AM |
|
I am hearing what you say about the hooks, Tom! Ya spend all that money for a lure and the hooks are junk! I also have spare hooks and a hook sharpener for that reason (not the only reason!). But the cost of new lures is just a little over the top...Even on eBay, folks bid up the price on a lure even when you can buy it in the store for less! This is what has prompted me to refinish damaged lures and even making my own such as inline spinners. LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif
from S.E. Pa. |
|
| Lifer since 2005, "Bushwacker" deputy sherif, S. E. Pa |
|
|
bbrown18
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 09:20 AM |
|
Nice to know I'm not alone in thinking that lure prices have got out of control. Like some of you said I realize there is a difference in some of the cheap lures that you can buy, and yes, some of the cheap stuff just looks like junk. But for $1.99 you can afford to replace the hooks on a lure, or just replace it if it gets too bad. What I usually do is hit the clearance sales at the end of the summer and in the late winter when they are trying to git rid of last years styles and colors to make room for the new ones. As far as the lures running true out of the box and the hooks being sharp, I've had it both ways, cheap lures that run true and more expensive ones that need tuning, the same with hooks. I just seems to vary with each lure. If none of you guys are buying those $20 + lures, I wonder who is?? |
|
|
|
|
AZAllen
Veteran Poster
Posts:2427
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 09:35 AM |
|
Now clearance sales are a different subject than knock offs, I have snapped up dozens of lures at 1/4- 1/3 of retail. I have really enriched my kids tackle boxes that way also.
I will admit to some Castaic soft baits, an AC lure, painted by Alan, a Da Kine and a Jacks Whacker. I may even have a few others as I will admit to being a sucker for some of the stuff. I could not talk myself into the $75 surface plug, no matter how many times I looked at it. |
|
| NAFC, NAHC, NRA, SASS, Viet Nam Vet. Bullhead City, AZ |
|
|
turnip
Senior Poster
Posts:5638
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 10:55 AM |
|
This is a good wholesale site. Realize that the inventory changes on a regular basis... http://www.gofishin.com/ LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif
from S.E. Pa. |
|
| Lifer since 2005, "Bushwacker" deputy sherif, S. E. Pa |
|
|
bbrown18
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 10:58 AM |
|
I've got one lure that has a retail of $29.95, but I didn't buy it. It was sent to me as a field test product a couple years ago. It was a top water bait similar to a Creepy-Crawler in action but it was fire tiger colored and looked like a little catfish, whiskers and all. The lure looked good and caught fish, but one of the questions asked if I thought the lure was worth the suggested retail price, and of course I didn't no lure is worth $29.95, or at least no freshwater lure. I guess the lure didn't get very good reviews because I have never seen them anywhere since.
|
|
|
|
|
deeder
New Poster
Posts:123
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 12:05 PM |
|
For me, rapala, spro, excalibur, these cranks are worth the money. But the 15 bucks lucky craft and sebile are charging just isn't worth it. |
|
|
|
|
Pegsguy
Veteran Poster
Posts:4095
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 06:10 PM |
|
For me to spend $30 or more on a lure, it would have to A) Catch a fish on every cast and B) Clean and fillet the fish for me. I have plenty of $4-$10 lures that work just fine thank you, and most of them were bought on sale! Tom Fishin' fool in NE Illinois |
|
| Lifer in NE Illinois Gen. 1:28 I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become a vegitarian! |
|
|
Yanosick
Advanced Poster
Posts:669
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 08:41 PM |
|
While I do own a couple of $20 plus lures, I almost always buy off brand soft plastics and lures. They all catch fish.. If you can save one to three dollars per package of soft plastics or lures. You will save close to a hundred dollars a year. I definitely think the manufacturing companies are trying to catch fishermen not fish. |
|
|
|
|
AZAllen
Veteran Poster
Posts:2427
 |
| 12 Aug 2009 10:33 PM |
|
I will also admit that I forgot to back into the bait shop at Perris lake and buy the castaic wooden trout I saw there, be a collectable now as would the original AC plugs I didn't buy. But I will admit that they were pricey. |
|
| NAFC, NAHC, NRA, SASS, Viet Nam Vet. Bullhead City, AZ |
|
|
bbrown18
 |
| 13 Aug 2009 08:57 AM |
|
Judging by the responses I've got most people agree with me on the $20 + dollar lures but when it comes to the $5-$15 range I guess I'm just a cheapskate. If I can't catch a fish with a lure that cost's $5 or less I don't need to be fishing. I went through my tackle boxes last night and I do have several Rapalas, and some Bombers, and Rebels. The funny part about it though is the most expensive lures that I have in my tackle box are ones that I found hanging in trees, or snagged to stumps when the water is low, or tied on the end of a peice of line I snagg on. But that's a different topic altogether, but that may be why I'm so cheap when it comes to lures. If I was to pay over 20 bucks for a lure the first time I cast it out I would get it snagged and end up breaking it off. My philosophy when it comes to buying lures I don't buy anything that I can't stand to loose.
|
|
|
|
|
Pegsguy
Veteran Poster
Posts:4095
 |
| 13 Aug 2009 05:50 PM |
|
I like the "I don't buy anything I can't afford to lose philosophy". That said, I quit smoking 3+ years ago with the understanding with my wife that what I didn't spend on smokes I could spend on anything I chose with the exception of other women. I sure have bought a lot of nice tackle on the $50 or so a week that I am not spending on tobbaco. I still don't buy any lures over about $8. Tom Fishin' fool in NE Illinois |
|
| Lifer in NE Illinois Gen. 1:28 I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become a vegitarian! |
|
|
bbrown18
 |
| 14 Aug 2009 08:17 AM |
|
Maybe I'll start smoking so then I can tell the wife I'll quit if I can spend the money on fishing tackle. Better not, I'd probably get kicked out of the house. She has a big sign hanging in our game room that says, "If you're smoking in here you better be on fire!!" Wow Tom, with $50 a week you could buy a couple of those fancy swimbaits, or 8 - 10 reasonably priced lures. |
|
|
|
|
Pegsguy
Veteran Poster
Posts:4095
 |
| 14 Aug 2009 06:53 PM |
|
Or start saving the money and buy a friggin' boat next spring! I need to stop buying tackle and save for a boat. I missed a used 14' Starcraft because I did not have cash in hand. I won't miss the next one! Tom Fishin' fool in NE Illinois |
|
| Lifer in NE Illinois Gen. 1:28 I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become a vegitarian! |
|
|
WorldRecordbass
New Poster
Posts:80
 |
| 14 Aug 2009 09:28 PM |
|
Or 5 Lucky Craft crankbaits on sale now at Bass Pro Shops which in the long run you will be much happier with.  World Record Bass and Trophy Bass
Articles, Videos, Gallery
http://delawaretrophybass.com |
|
|
|
|