Originally posted by: joda911 on 5/19/2001 7:59:00 PM

.....Catfish_Chris please explain what YOU mean.....

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Joda (Lifer 92) IL./Member Since 89

Originally posted by: CATFISH_CHRIS on 5/19/2001 3:14:00 PM

r you not suppose not to eat perch

Originally posted by: ROD TENDER on 5/20/2001 3:24:00 PM

Jod911 You are so right, as a boy I remember fishing for jumb yellow perch off the brake waters, and around jones island in Milwaukee. I think that over harvesting, and the stocking of Salmon and lake Trout, back in the 80's to control the alewife population that was washing up on shore every year and smelling every thing up has taken it toll on the perch in the lake...
A Biologist study here in Wis. shows that the perch population has drop 90% since the 80's...
So on May 21 here in Wis. there is going to be a hearing to Drop the daily bag limit for perch from 25-10 per day for anglers and 200,000lbs to 20,000lbs annually for all commercial fishers, in an atempt to save the yellow perch...
Have a good day on the water...

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Have a Safe & Fun Filled Fishing Season

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Jerry K.



[This message has been edited by ROD TENDER (edited 05-20-2001).]

Originally posted by: CATFISH_CHRIS on 5/20/2001 7:51:00 PM

i thought perch was just bait i didnt think you was suppost to eat them

Originally posted by: joda911 on 5/21/2001 12:10:00 AM

....I hear what you're saying Jerry, don't know if that same scernio played out here in Illinois on Lake Michigan, but there is certainly a problem. Here we have a 15 fish limit and banned from fishing perch the month of June, at least that's what it was last year. The regulations keeps changing as the accessment of the situation is addressed, so I'm told. To comment on your inquiry Catfish_Chris, pan fish here in Illinois does include Perch as one of it's edible morsels, a mighty GOOD one I would add. Look at it this way, fishermen in TEXAS use Shrimp as bait too. If you haven't tried Perch but LOVE Walleye I'll tell you a little secret later.....

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Joda (Lifer 92) IL./Member Since 89

Originally posted by: SKHman on 5/22/2001 2:37:00 AM

What I find really interesting about all of this is how the population of such a hardy fish can dwindle so rapidly. I live in North Dakota and this last year the Fish and Game enacted a 50 fish daily limit on Perch and Crappie and why anyone would want to keep that many is beyond my comprehension. There was a lake here winter of '99,prior to the limit that people were going to and taking home multiple 5 gallon buckets full of perch, and this winter no one could figure out why they weren't catching any fish... makes you wonder about some of these people doesn't it?


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Originally posted by: joda911 on 5/22/2001 9:27:00 PM

...yeah SKHman, I hear what you are saying about the multiple buckets of fish. There are still people that use our resources to feed their families. If you're not breaking the laws by doing that I don't have a problem with it. My discontent is with the way the commercial industry can get away with the amounts of fish taken each year. I think something is being done about that, the only problem is the every day fisherman also get penalized, like I mentioned before, a ban on perch fishing 1 month....

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Joda (Lifer 92) IL./Member Since 89

Originally posted by: wormdunker on 6/6/2001 4:30:00 PM

Isn't there a limit on how close the commercial fisherman can drop there nets?In Lake Erie before they banned commercial fishing altogether there was a two or three mile limit I believe.

Originally posted by: joda911 on 6/6/2001 10:04:00 PM

.....yes wormdunker, I think there is a limit restriction as to where those nets may be placed, in all honesty, I've fished Lake Michigan from Chicago shore lines. We've fished as far out as 7 miles. I don't ever recall seeing or having problems with commercial nets, unlike Lake Erie, we ran into commercial nets weekly, much further out than 7 miles though....

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Joda (Lifer 92) IL./Member Since 89

Originally posted by: wormdunker on 6/7/2001 6:08:00 PM

I don't know what it could be then Joda other than the salmon have switched there forage fish base to perch.But that seems unlikely.I read somewhere that they did a perch sampling on the Mi.side and found the males outnumbered the females by a pretty wide margin.You know as well as I do that the females are larger.It could be that the commercial fishing industry is doing a little selective harvesting.

Originally posted by: joda911 on 6/8/2001 10:47:00 PM

...I doubt that selective harvesting by the commercial industry is the reason wormdunker, it's more than likely the amount of fishing pressure, combined with the commercial industry demand, multiplied by the amount of foreign infestation of other organisms that don't belong here....

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Joda (Lifer 92) IL./Member Since 89

Originally posted by: baitmasta on 6/11/2001 7:04:00 PM

Some fish dont have enough time to reproduce if there are tomany game fish.I think Pearch are on the game fish list and they compete with the other strong fish like bass and pikes,even a pickerl or cat can chomp down on a perch thats good size.So i say look whats in that lake know.All i know is Bass and Pics can do a good job on a med size lake.Maybee go look and see if Was Winter Kill.

Originally posted by: wormdunker on 6/11/2001 7:44:00 PM

Your right about the foreign introduction of unwanted species joda.The Gobe situation is starting to get out of hand.Those little pests eat everything in sight,and that includes fish eggs.Then you have the Zebra mussels taking over the fish spawning habitat.By the way,I just came back from Lake Erie this weekend.It seems I was wrong about the commercial fishing joda.For the first time in a long while I saw fishing nets.I don't think the're out of Lorain OH.None the less it was disappointing to see.They were alot closer in than two miles also.

Originally posted by: Andy Posta on 6/11/2001 9:44:00 PM

Wormdunker, where did you see those commercial fisherman at? I've been to Erie a lot this year, including last weekend, and I haven't seen any. I know that they commercially fish in Canada, but I thought it was illegal in the U.S. You are right about those stupid gobies and zebra mussels, they are WAY out of hand, and something really needs to be done about them.
Good luck and good fishing!

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Andy Posta(OH)

Originally posted by: wormdunker on 6/12/2001 5:40:00 PM

Hi Andy. I saw them just off of Sheffield Lake.Thats on the east side Of Lorain.I think they may be coming from Vermilion or Huron.While my brother and I were fishing we saw one go by.I think he was checking his nets out from the C.E.I.plant in Avon Lake.

Originally posted by: Andy Posta on 6/14/2001 1:10:00 PM

Oh, I fish mostly in the city of Cleveland, and I have never seen any.
Good luck and good fishing!

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Andy Posta(OH)

Originally posted by: Andy Posta on 6/16/2001 7:26:00 PM

I read an article in the newspaper on Friday about the perch in Lake Michigan and Erie. It said that the perch population in Michigan has fallen 90 percent in the last 10 years, and most biologists blame it on the Alewife, which eat the perch fry shortly after they hatch. In Erie, since there is not a problem with alewifes, the perch population has been on a steady increase. So, the problem is probably not commercial fishing, but the alewife.
Good luck and good fishing!

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Andy Posta(OH)

Originally posted by: joda911 on 6/24/2001 2:32:00 AM

....well Andy, I wish that was the case, the alewife causing our problems, I wish I could believe that. It may be part of the problem, and if that's the case, then I say get RID of the alewife, not the fisherman....

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Joda (Lifer 92) IL./Member Since 89

Originally posted by: stan pado on 6/25/2001 8:25:00 AM

commercial fishing definately has a big impact on fish populations.not only on the targeted spiecies but all the non targeted ones too.(other fish, turtles etc.) the quota for the comercial industry has to be looked into in more depth. it seems the recreational fisherman is the one that have to suffer

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L/M STAN PADO (N.J)

Originally posted by: Simple on 6/25/2001 11:13:00 AM

Just this past week I spent yet another amazing week up in Buckhorn, Ontario (www.the-birches-resort.com) Unfortunatly our good time ended once we realized that our natural resources were being put at risk by many American Fisherman (Mostly from Michigan).

Now I have seen alot of people catch alot of fish up there (main reason Walleye are in danger) but nothing like these guys we are talking about, taking thousands of Bluegill's in one week, per group (about 6 groups were there). How can Canada's waterways support such pressure year after year. When I asked the American gentlemen from different cottages their catch sizes most said around the 3000 fish mark which was alot less then they caught last year they stated. This is obserd! One gentleman even stated "it is not the quality of the fish, but the quantity." They even told us how they get them across the US/Canada border!! can you imagine seeing 100's upon 100's of fishing inside a tumbling fishing scaler day after day....it is upseting

In Canada we have some of the most fertile fishing grounds around but this wont last long at this rate we need to protect our lakes and rivers from such fishing pressure to ensure a sustainable for the years to come.


I understand that not all americans do this sort of thing.... **** I am sure we have our fair share of canadians doing the same.

Regretfully Yours.

Gerritt A.
NAFC Member

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Thanks.

Simple.