Originally posted by: muskygirl on 9/13/2007 11:13:12 AM

Try catching a couple dink gills during the day and then use them as bait later when they are just "laying" there. Worked every time for me.

Originally posted by: mr bill on 9/13/2007 8:57:29 AM

ok, i have had a problem with one type of situation on the water for pike. i have fished and caught pike most of my life. the situation is this;

when the pike are laying on the surface early in the morning or late at nite. i just can not get them to bite. i have caught them if they are porposing/ moving around on the surface bout not when they are just laying there.

this happens mostly in the spring and early fall. but i have seen this also during the summer. i have found some back bays and bayous with pike laying on the surface and will not get a bite until they move down into the water colum.

i have tried surface baits, flies, sub surface such has floating minnow baits, buzz baits and spinners, with no luck.



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Originally posted by: panfisherteen on 9/13/2007 3:10:36 PM

use a suspending lure and deadstick it in front of it

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 9/13/2007 7:37:39 PM

quote:

Originally posted by mr bill:
i have tried surface baits, flies, sub surface such has floating minnow baits, buzz baits and spinners, with no luck.

Originally posted by: mr bill on 9/14/2007 6:08:58 AM

i have dead stick floaters and supenders, i buzzed the spinners and slow rolled, i have twitched slow realed, speed realed and anything in between. every bait i have tried, i have done this. the only fish that would bite are the smaller ones that are below the surface. i have even used live bait under a bobber but as close to the surface as possiable. live bait with out weight on the line, i even had tried a fly rod with floating line and no weight on live bait. as i said before the only fish that would bite were the ones under the surface and i have found that these are the smaller fish.

i have seen pike as big as 18-20 lbs. or bigger just laying there on the surface esspeilly in the mornings. these are the fish i am trying to get and what ussaully happens is i put them done. i have cast ahead of them, past them behind them and straight at them.

i have found if these fish are moving they are catchable, at least the 8-12 lbers. are. i have also found over the years if you are seeing gar pike porpusing there are/most of the time, pike feeding under the gars. if you can get your baits past the gars, the pike are really apt to bite.



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Originally posted by: northernpikecatcher on 9/14/2007 3:30:05 PM

Try a jungle jig with a 6" plastic shad hooked with the tail 90 degrees from vertical Retreive slowly in front of their noses. it has worked for me. White and red has worked best for me but use whatever color works well for you on your particular lake.

Originally posted by: arcticpike on 9/19/2007 2:29:02 PM

Do you know the water temperature? what is it?
What is the depth of water where the pike are laying. One of the things I do to provoke a strike is to reel in as fast as you can all the way back without stopping for nothing. Remember a northern can swimm up to 30 mile an hour right now.
Another case scenario is that pike need to ajust their body temperature to the water
temperature.This can take one good sunny afternoon or sometimes up to two days. The larger the pike body the longer it takes.These fish are lethargic and most time I move to more aggressive fish.

Good luck

Originally posted by: panfisherteen on 9/19/2007 5:39:53 PM

hey arctic pike,long time no see <!--graemlin::D-->

Originally posted by: mr bill on 9/21/2007 6:30:24 AM

thanks guys, i have tried almost every thing you have said. a couple things i haven't tried and i will try them next time.

to answer artic, it happens all times of the year mostly spring and fall, some times in the very early mornings or late evenings. the fish i am having the most troubles with i believe they are just sunning them selfs like the big muskies do. what makes me think this is because the little pike will hit all most every time, it's the big bruisers that i am trying to fool.

i have been luck enough to get a pair of 24lbers in my life time and i have seen bigger laying on the surface and trying to get them to bite.



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Originally posted by: DEEPERTHANU on 10/15/2007 3:12:10 PM

LIVE BAIT- MUSKY SIZED SUCKERS

Originally posted by: Lazarus on 10/15/2007 4:12:00 PM

Could be that they just ate a big meal and they're sittin back havin a good stogie while their food digests.

Originally posted by: WalleyeWayne on 10/15/2007 6:10:28 PM

...and maybe considering a meal chaser with a little shot <!--graemlin::D-->. Sorry it's off topic, but I had to.

Originally posted by: mr bill on 10/16/2007 7:51:30 AM

those are all good if that's the case.
maybe i should act like its a bar and try to start a brawel <!--graemlin::D-->



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Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 10/16/2007 5:18:22 PM

You 2 just ain't right <!--graemlin::eek:--> <!--graemlin::D--> <!--graemlin::p-->

How about a big Suick?

A LOT of big pike caught on this traditional MUSKIE bait <!--graemlin:;)-->

Originally posted by: retired-psg on 10/16/2007 8:04:00 PM

Going out tomorrow on the Miss. to chase Da Toothie Critters <!--graemlin::D--> and any Bass that happens Ta open his Mouth too <!--graemlin:;)-->