VA musky/pike hunters......can you help??
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Reelthing13User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:343 Reelthing13
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25 Jan 2008 05:29 PM
    I have been fishing here for a few years now but haven't so much as seen a pike or musky......I am pretty sure that I had a rod ripped out of a friends had when i asked him to hold it for a sec when we were trolling on Occoquan res...... but on top of losing the rod I never saw what got it.....if anyone has some good info on where to go....all i hear all the time is that "a lot" of people have seen musky in Burke lake and they have heard of a lot of pike being caught in Occoquan Reservoir.....any help would be great........if you can give me some info on the pike and musky, I can be persuaded to cough up a good striper of catfish spot to you......

    SGT Christopher Johnson US Army Presidential Salute Battery NAFC Life Member
    Reelthing13User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:343 Reelthing13
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    31 Jan 2008 07:47 PM
    ok since the virginia guys are a little tight lipped....does anyone have any tips to get me pointed in the right direction?

    SGT Christopher Johnson US Army Presidential Salute Battery NAFC Life Member
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    07 Feb 2008 07:21 AM

    well,according to The Freshwater Angler "Pike and Muskie" book,some spots that it said there are pike(P) and muskie(M) are:

    Burke Lake(M)

    Occoquan Res.(P)

    Orange Lake(P)

    James River(M)

    Hardwood Mills Res.(P)-trophy water

    Smith Mountain Lake(M)

    New River(P,M)-trophy water(M)

    Claytor Lake(M)

    Rural Retreat Lake(M)

    Hungry Mother Lake(P)

    South Holston River(P)

    Clinch River(M)

    hope this list will help

     

     

    turnipUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:5642 turnip
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    22 Feb 2008 03:37 AM
    Hmmm,  sounds like an opportunity for another road trip...
    LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif
    Lifer since 2005, "Bushwacker" deputy sherif, S. E. Pa
    Reelthing13User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:343 Reelthing13
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    24 Feb 2008 04:06 PM
    hey pete if you wanna come out here and help me find some pike and musky your more than welcome.....i only have a canoe to get us around on the water though

    SGT Christopher Johnson US Army Presidential Salute Battery NAFC Life Member
    retired-psgUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1321 retired-psg
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    25 Feb 2008 03:39 PM

    Chris: I'm not in that area but the toothie critters here in Wi. really like the soft plastic minnow type swim baits. Figure that might be the case there also. Tight lines . ><))))))))"> Lou

     


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    turnipUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:5642 turnip
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    26 Feb 2008 09:55 PM
    Chris, I may just take you up on that offer!  So far for me, no matter if I am in the North East or the Upper Pin. of Michigan, a 1/16 oz jig, chartrouse with red eye (made it myself) with a twin tailed white 2" twisty will keep you in the pike if they are around.  I also like to use Rebel spoonebill minnows, Rapala deep husky jerks and Rapala DT16s.  If I was in your situation I would go to the small tackle shops near the various lakes, looking for posted pics and talking to the locals about pike catches.  Once you can establish that there are pike in that body of water...well, the rest will be history!
    LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif
    Lifer since 2005, "Bushwacker" deputy sherif, S. E. Pa
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    26 Feb 2008 10:25 PM

     

    Chris, have you ever heard the term Nantucket Sleigh ride?

    If you get a big musky on while you are in that little canoe, you will be going for an unplanned ride.

    If you are going to hunt Pike and Musky, don't go light.

    Make sure that you have capable tackle. Always use a wire or flouro carbon leader of at least 100lb strength. Have a BIG net.

    Make sure that you have a jaw spreader.

    Make sure that you have a good, long ,needlenose pliers or de hooking tool.

    Make sure that you have a cutting tool stout enough to cut through a large treble hook.

    A large Pike or Musky in the bottom of a regular boat most times can be a real handful. I can't imagine a Pike or Musky over 10 Lbs banging around in a canoe.

    Make sure that you have a first aid kit. You wouldn't be the first person cut handling one a dem critters. One flip could have you on the recieving end of a treble hook.

    Keep your hands away from the mouth and gills when possible. Having a pair of fish handling gloves would be a good investment.

    I didn't write this to dicourage you. I just want you to go prepared.

    Good fishin' there Bud.

    Thank you for your service. Sir, OLD GUARD, Sir.


    USAF Vietnam Vet 66-67 One a Da Boyz from Illinoiz gettin' a little to old to put up with *%^$*&^. They don't call me "The Ogre" for nothing. Life is the leading cause of death. Stop wishin'...go fishin'........ Support our Troops. Never, Never, back down..
    muskygirlUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1548 muskygirl
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    01 Mar 2008 03:54 PM
    turnip wrote:
    "Hmmm,  sounds like an opportunity for another road trip..."
     
    Hey, pick me up along the way will ya Petey?
     


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    muskygirlUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1548 muskygirl
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    01 Mar 2008 04:13 PM

    Hey Old Guard (I have a hard time calling you "old").......like Lou was saying, Here in Wisconsin, big plastics are the trick around here, kickin minnows, swimming joes, by far though bulldawgs are my favorite. I would say though that as a starter, a big mepps muskykiller bucktail will get ya going for either the pike or musky. Granted, it doesn't have to be a mepps, there are other brands just as good, anything with a nice flashy blade or tinsel in the hair really drives them nuts. I personally prefer mepps because the blades and bucktails are interchangeable - i.e......say you have a black bucktail with a silver blade and another one could be a white bucktail with a red blade...........the rumor on the water is they are hitting black with a red blade....no problem......you can just switch the blades real quick and keep fishing.

    Other good stand bys are jakes, and suicks.

    As for colors - basically what ever are the colors of your bait fish in that body of water, plus what ever else they feed on (gills, baby bass or baby northerns).

    Size and speed has alot to do with conditions and seasons. In the Fall - the bigger the better and you can bring these in at a good speed. Spring you'll want to go smaller and slower.........summer, you want to go slow and deep - the heavier baits like a bulldawg are great in the summer. Summer is also a time to try out night fishing - they feed more in the cool of the night verses the bright, heat of the day. Fall is a good time for trolling as well. And if your sitting there in the heat of the day catten with some live bait sitting there on the bottom, it won't hurt to set up a shiner, sucker, or even a small bluegill under a bobber kind of shallow - the commotion has been known to trigger a strike from a lazy fish sitting in the weeds.


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    IGotTheBugUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:2 IGotTheBug
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    03 Mar 2008 09:03 AM

    Hey OldGuard,

    I'm not sure what kind of structure you fish, but in Minnesota I usually try to stick to weed lines with quick dropoffs.  My favorite musky lure is a top raider, hands down.  Black with orange spots usually works the best.  If you can't coax a surface strike, try using big bucktails or swimbaits like a bulldawg.  The Creamsicle color is a big favorite around here.  Fish shallower in the spring with smaller lures and troll big lures deeper in the fall.  Other than that info., all I can say is figure out what they're eating in the lake and try to mimic it.  Around here, we don't like catchin pike when fishing for muskies, but it happens more than I like. 

    Reelthing13User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:343 Reelthing13
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    03 Mar 2008 09:40 AM
    wow thanks guys.....i haven't even checked this post in a few weeks because no one had replied........so a belated thanks that is a little bit to digest.......i have some lures, i'll take a few pics and see what you guys think.......a lot of it doubles as my striper stuff......i have equipment capable of handling them......a few of my rods have gone with me on tuna trips.....if they handled a 25 lb yellowfin and a few dolphin i hope they handle these toothy monsters here.....anyway i'll put up some pics of the lures and a few rods i'll probably use

    SGT Christopher Johnson US Army Presidential Salute Battery NAFC Life Member
    Reelthing13User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:343 Reelthing13
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    03 Mar 2008 10:28 AM
    heres some of what i have......the lures are pretty self explainatory...... the casting rods are a shimano cardiff spooled w/ 60lb spiderwire on a 7' MH bps bionic blade.....a johnny morris spooled w/ 17lb mono on a 7' MH all star GT40X....the spinning rod is an okuma avenger spooled w/ 14lb mono on a 7' H Tsunami classic series.....i do have another rod i could use if i threw live bait at them, its another spinning rod......an okuma diezel baitfeeder spooled w/ 17lb mono on a 7' H Tsunami 5 star......... i know the mono line might be a little light, but i fish for a lot of things lighter than i should........i dunno more than likely i will just be chucking lures with the shimano

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    muskygirlUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1548 muskygirl
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    03 Mar 2008 01:18 PM

    Well, I will start off by saying that anything here I say is only MY opinion and is what works for ME and the waters I fish.......

     

    Most of what you have is a good start but would work better for pike more then musky. Pike are more aggressive and will pretty much hit anything. Musky on the other hand are more selective......thats not to say that muskies won't hit on what you have, it is more that more times then not, they are looking for something BIGGER.

     

    Also, Your reels need to be heavy duty......that reel that is on the middle rod looks perfect for what you want. You'll want a rod that has a good back bone with a bit of bend, but also make sure it is weighted for the big lures you'll be chucking. Line.....I am a power pro fan - for muskies, 60lb or better. Personally, I fish to get them in the boat, and when I target muskies - it is more of a goal then for a day of relaxing fishing - so I go right or not at all. Basically what I am trying to say is if your not sure you'll be getting into musky fishing on a regular basis, try out what you have and see how it goes. But if you truely believe you want to target them with a passion, then get ready to start spending some money. Start small.....one good rod and reel with some good line. Do your home work as to what the other muskie fisherman use for lures in your area and pick out a couple at a time til you have a good line up of basics.

     

    I am also a big believer of CPR when it comes to muskies (or for that matter all big game fish). That 40incher will be your kids 50incher down the road.

     

    Musky fishing isn't as easy as it looks.....it took me 5 years for finally get my first legal and another 2 years to meet my next goal which was a fish over 40. And I have been musky fishing since 2000 and I only have 7 legals top my name.

     

    Hope that helps ya Chris


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    Reelthing13User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:343 Reelthing13
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    03 Mar 2008 10:21 PM
    you guys are great.......i've got a good base......now just one more favor......someone tell my wife we have to go back to bass pro shops to by more, but DIFFERENT, stuff......no, seriously you have to do it......if i do it, after what i spent there on sat, you might not see me on the boards for a while....... or ever, theres a good chance she'll beat me to death with a rod........anyone?? please?? oh well.......night all

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    fish-a-holicUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:774 fish-a-holic
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    04 Mar 2008 08:41 AM

     Chris, I usually have my best luck with Muskie and Northern while fishing for Walleye. ; ) I generally us a spinning outfit with 6LB test mono and a 1/8 to 1/4 ounce jig with rubber on the back. Usually grubs, but worms and tubes work well too. If you are lucky you might even land the one that bites.

    Why don't you use up some of that leave youv'e been saving and come out to the LaCrosse meet. I'm sure we could get you on some decent Pike, and maybe a Muskie.

     


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    muskygirlUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1548 muskygirl
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    04 Mar 2008 03:44 PM
    Well, you could one of two things Chris....you could stop at some store on the way to Bass Pro and butter her up by getting her something pretty and/or sparkley or you could get her a musky setup too and take her along for some musky fishing
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    Reelthing13User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:343 Reelthing13
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    04 Mar 2008 08:04 PM
    well MG i could buy her something, but she always says i don't need or want (its either one depending on the day) anything........and i would love for her to go fishing with me but the fish "scare" her, any water where she can't see to the bottom "scares" her, and boats "scare" her.........i just got that canoe i talked about a few posts back and told her it would be cool to go for a paddle, no fishing just a nice ride--absolutly not.......she has gone fishing a few times with the kids and i but that is about the extent of it......i don't know what to do........i'll give her one thing though she is a hell of a shot........we have gone shooting together, all i know is don't piss her off too bad.....so again anyone want to tell her i need a few things?? HAHAHA

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    muskygirlUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1548 muskygirl
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    04 Mar 2008 08:13 PM
    OK, well, tell her that the NAFC fishy godmother said it was ok for you to get some new musky stuff..........ok???............lolololol
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    Reelthing13User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:343 Reelthing13
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    04 Mar 2008 08:29 PM
    no way .......i don't want her to shoot you........we'll tell her pete said to.......LOL......j/k pete.....yer great buddy.....lol

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