grass carp control
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dbriggsUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:1 dbriggs
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08 Jul 2009 07:03 PM
    my local lake has a population problem. i live in the piedmont region of nc. the lake i fish at, which is privately owned, is overstocked with enourmous grass carp. i would us a net but i have no idea how to use one. if anybody could tell me how to use a net or catch the carp i would be grateful.
    EricRidenourUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:433 EricRidenour
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    08 Jul 2009 07:44 PM
    Well My first bit of Advice is for you , if there is truly a problem with the lake , then I would suggest contacting  your states DNR. I am sure if there is a "Problem" with the White Amur , then the DNR may have already be aware of it.  http://www.wildlife.state.nc.us/

    Also , it may be a bit off but you may be able to find a Few Bow Anglers to help with the Removel if Bowfishing is legal  in your state.




    dbriggs wrote:
    my local lake has a population problem. i live in the piedmont region of nc. the lake i fish at, which is privately owned, is overstocked with enourmous grass carp. i would us a net but i have no idea how to use one. if anybody could tell me how to use a net or catch the carp i would be grateful.


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    fisherfanaticUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1484 fisherfanatic
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    30 Oct 2009 01:39 PM
    I have a theory that if people could use the electric pulse of the boat motor to scare the fish to the surface, you could just shoot at them. Then turn them into lunch for a seal at your local zoo
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    IdahocarpinUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:22 Idahocarpin
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    30 May 2011 01:05 PM
    I am not much for the bow fishing idea but to each their own. I have been told that grass carp or white amur are VERY good to eat. alot of people have stocked these ponds to control weed problems and most of the fish are unable to reproduce. If this pond is private you may be able to find some other local ponds through the DNR that need some weed control maybe they would like to transplant some. I would get ahold of the local fish and game and see what they think.
    jaysun7776User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:185 jaysun7776
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    07 Aug 2011 10:14 AM
    Why are grass carp bad ?
    AZAllenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2416 AZAllen
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    07 Aug 2011 05:09 PM
    Grass carp are apparently very good at undewater vegetation control, unfortunatly, if allowed to breed indecrimately, they will literly eat themselves out of house and home. This also leaves no vegetation to help produce food for other fish. Often triploid fish are stocked to avoid that problem.
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    fisherfanaticUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1484 fisherfanatic
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    10 Aug 2011 05:03 PM
    Posted By jaysun7776 on 07 Aug 2011 11:14 AM
    Why are grass carp bad ?



    No offense, but...


    Have you been living under a rock for the last decade!  Haven't you heard all the problems with Asian carp in the Mississippi River?  Ring a bell?

    I'm sure you've heard about it, right?  I mean, pretty much every angler in America dreads them, unless they're triploid carp (non-reproducing specimens).

    "I may be physically at my computer right now, but my mind has gone fishing!" --Avid angler from MI and member since 2009--
    IdahocarpinUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:22 Idahocarpin
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    10 Aug 2011 09:01 PM
    No offense BUT perhaps before we post something we ourselves should come out from under our rocks....

    I believe the questioin was are GRASS CARP that bad... I looked a hundred times and have yet to see where you got the asian carp from in the question posted. The "carp" that are the problem in the mississippi and other rivers are ASIAN or BIG HEAD carp NOT to be confused with the common mirror leather OR GRASS carp. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

    To many of ANY one fish species in a body of water can be bad. There are some new studies on the "HUGE"  asian carp problem and things are not what they seem in fact all the studies that have been going on are starting to be questioned because of the LACK or real data. I will gind the link and post it here later.


    NOW to answer the question that was asked.
    NO grass carp are not that bad provided there are not to many in one body of water as they will eat all the plant life and then they will die off and plants will grow again etc etc. Most places that stock grassies stock fish that are unable to reproduce. BUT somehow a few still manage to do the deed and make more. As I said to many of ANY one species of fish can be a bad thing.

    I hope this got a bit closer to answering your question about GRASS CARP. When I find the link about ASIAN carp I will post it so anybody that wants can check it out.
    fisherfanaticUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1484 fisherfanatic
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    10 Aug 2011 09:33 PM
    Posted By Idahocarpin on 10 Aug 2011 10:01 PM
    No offense BUT perhaps before we post something we ourselves should come out from under our rocks....

    I believe the questioin was are GRASS CARP that bad... I looked a hundred times and have yet to see where you got the asian carp from in the question posted. The "carp" that are the problem in the mississippi and other rivers are ASIAN or BIG HEAD carp NOT to be confused with the common mirror leather OR GRASS carp. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

    To many of ANY one fish species in a body of water can be bad. There are some new studies on the "HUGE"  asian carp problem and things are not what they seem in fact all the studies that have been going on are starting to be questioned because of the LACK or real data. I will gind the link and post it here later.


    NOW to answer the question that was asked.
    NO grass carp are not that bad provided there are not to many in one body of water as they will eat all the plant life and then they will die off and plants will grow again etc etc. Most places that stock grassies stock fish that are unable to reproduce. BUT somehow a few still manage to do the deed and make more. As I said to many of ANY one species of fish can be a bad thing.

    I hope this got a bit closer to answering your question about GRASS CARP. When I find the link about ASIAN carp I will post it so anybody that wants can check it out.

    No offense, but Grass Carp uproot pond weeds, causing the water to become more turbid.  This is why a lot of anglers despise them.  Yes, I did get a little confused with the individual Asian Carp species.  I must be getting tired!   Grass Carp (in behavior and diet) are more similar to Common Carp than to Bighead and Silver Carp.
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    IdahocarpinUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:22 Idahocarpin
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    10 Aug 2011 10:08 PM
    In case anybody wants to know.



    What is an Asian Carp? There is a little bit of confusion around this issue. Generally when people talk about Asian Carp, they mean two closely related species: Bighead Carp (scientific name Hypophthalmichthys nobilis) and Silver Carp (scientific name Hypophthalmichthys molitrix). These are the invasive species that are spreading throughout the Mississippi River, and are now threatening to enter the Great Lakes through the Chicago Canal system. Silver Carp are notorious for jumping. Bighead Carp do not jump (at least as often). Some people are using the term Bigheaded Carp to replace Asian Carp. In each instance, they are talking about the same two species.

    The situation is slightly more complicated in that there are dozens of carp species in the world, and almost all are originally from Asia. None are native to North America, although a few have become established here. Common Carp (Cyprinus carpio) are also carp originally from Asia, but were brought to North America in the 1800s. They have been here so long that many people think they are native. Goldfish (Carassius auratus) are also a type of carp from Asia, and they can be surprising abundant in urban environments. Grass Carp (Ctenopharyngodon idella) is another type of carp from Asia that is routinely stocked in ponds and rivers to control excessive plant growth. Black Carp (Mylopharyngodon piceus) is sometimes mistakenly moved around with the similar looking Grass Carp. So in one sense, there are actually six species of invasive Asian Carps. But this is not what most people mean when they say Asian Carp.

    As an aside, all carps are related and in the family Cyprinidae. Many of our local native minnows are also in the family Cyprinidae, hence are distant relatives to the Asian Carp.

    Ok so here is the link with some videos on the ASIAN CARP remember during these videos when they say carp they are talking about SILVER and BIG HEAD carp NOT grass or common or mirror or leather.


    http://www.freep.com/article/201107...Asian-carp
    PegsguyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4094 Pegsguy
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    12 Aug 2011 12:39 PM
    I have been following the invasive carp issue for a while now. (I live in the Chicago area) The lack of sound research on this subject is astounding and the information being disseminated is mostly a combination of poor science and conjecture. Back to the original question, too much of anything is less than ideal. The best source of information might be your state DNR or if you have one, the extension service of a state university. The DNR in most cases will not actively help with an issue on a private pond but usually can come through with some good advice.
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    scottluUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:27 scottlu
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    13 Dec 2011 02:08 PM
    i`m neww at this posting crap but here goes i`ve been around over 70 years grew up having to eat carp if you haven`t don`t knock the lowly carp fixed right you can`t tell them from canned salmon or mackeral maybe mom burnt me out on fish, i don`t care for any accept some crappie sometimes, i do love catching big carp or cats they are more fun than bass and more likely to catch a big one
    mo65User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1573 mo65
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    13 Dec 2011 02:32 PM
    My Grandpa and Dad used to catch huge carp out of the Ohio river and put them in an old bathtub full of clean water for a week. The carp would filter out the mud during this time, after which, made for some excellent table fare! Personally, I've never eaten one, but they are considered a delicacy in Europe and Asia.                                                                                          
                                                                    
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    retired-psgUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1314 retired-psg
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    29 Dec 2011 11:05 AM
    Yes a Net(throw type) or find some folks who bow fish and your problem will be solved!! just don't remove all of them. They do help with weed control in the lake!!



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