swimbait rods
Last Post 11 Jan 2010 10:50 AM by jonahsdad. 11 Replies.
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jonahsdad jonahsdad
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11 Jan 2010 10:50 AM
    I am intrigues by the swimbait revolution. I am thinking of lures in the 3 1/2-7 inch range, with weights anywhere from 3/8-3.5 oz. range. I think I can use my crankbait rod for the smaller lures, but what about the 4-7 inch, 1 to 3 1/2 oz. lures? Do I need to consider the "parabolic" action of some rods, or will a fast taper rods suffice? I live in SW Virginia and right now I'm not sure if I will throw the larger baits ( 8-12 inch lures).
    PegsguyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4095 Pegsguy
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    11 Jan 2010 12:27 PM
    For the heavier lures(not just swimbaits) I use a Med. Heavy rod with a slow action ie: it loads evenly from the tip to the grip. I don't feel that I need the sensitivity of a fast action when fishing large baits like that, a fish that hits a bait that large is going to announce itself pretty well. Tom
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    THEBASSCOLLEGEUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:847 THEBASSCOLLEGE
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    11 Jan 2010 07:00 PM
    BEST SWIMBAIT RODS

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    YanosickUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:669 Yanosick
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    13 Jan 2010 06:29 PM

    I really, really like Dobyns rods. I have one of there 1st generation Mike long edition swimbait rod and it is awesome. The rod is MH and is 7'9'' and is registered for baits in the 4-8 inch range or baits ranging from 1-4 ounces. The rod enables for incredibly long cast, and the softer tip ensures you don't rip hooks out.

    The rod is hard to find now, because they now make the 2nd generation rods. But I have heard that the 2nd generation is even better so If I were you, I'ld get a dobyns rod.

     

    They are a little pricey but you don't want to go cheap on a swimbait rod ( I got lucky and got mine 1/2 off).

     

    Heres a link:    http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/catpage-DCASTROD.html

    jonahsdad jonahsdad
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    15 Jan 2010 08:03 AM
    Could I use a musky rod instead of a swimbait rod, or would that be too stiff?
    THEBASSCOLLEGEUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:847 THEBASSCOLLEGE
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    15 Jan 2010 02:10 PM

    There are only two swimbait rods that I would recommend and each choice is based on price.


    The best bang for the buck is the Okuma Big Bait series for sure. They make 7'6" and 7'11" models; six rods in total. They each retail for around $100 and with a lifetime warranty; they're hard to beat.  I'd go with the 7'11" Heavy. The MH would probably handle the bait as well, but the Heavy will be more versatile and allow you to use bigger baits as well. For the price, they are very good rods.


    The next choice is what I consider to be the best swimbait rod available. It is a custom rod built by David Conway of Conway Custom Rods. He designed a 8' blank for Graphite USA that was built for swimbaits. It isn't a saltwater blank, built to be used for swimbaits.It was designed from the ground up to be the best swimbait blank available. Jerry Rago fishes them; if that says anything about how good they are. A built rod will start out at $200 and is well worth it ifyou are going to spend time fishing the big baits. It's by far, the most versatile blank I've ever fished. It will fish most 6" baits justas well as it will fish big 12" swimbaits. It's just amazing how well the rod can fish so many different sizes of baits. The rod can be built any way you like as well. If you want more info, post your email and Ican get that to you.


    There are other rods that are decent for swimbaits, but they are either built wrong or they are priced wrong in my opinion. There aren't too many swimbait rods on the market that are worth a darn that sell for less than $150. The only ones that come to mind are the Okumas. The Shimano Crucial blanks are great, but the handles are VERY short. It would be worth it just to save the extra money and get a custom rod like I recommended.That is what I fish! If it is not for you, you don't need to look any further than the Okumas.


    I've noticed that many believe a swimbait rod has to be really heavy; and that isn't true. You want a rod that is heavy enough to fish the baits you will be fishing easily; yet not heavier than is needed. I don't want a broomstick! I want a rod with good backbone, but some flex in the tip. The backbone is to cast the baits and the flex is to keep the fish hooked. The other thing that makes a great swimbait rod is a VERY LONG handle. Most factory rods have too short of a handle in my opinion. My custom rods have 17" handles! That may sound long and they are, but it makes such a huge difference when you're casting the big baits all day. The long handle makes it effortless! It also makes the long 8' rods fish shorter after the cast is made. It's easier to net a big bass when you're by yourself as well. That's really all there is too it! A rod that isn't a broomstick, has some flex in the tip, long handle; and as light weight as possible. That is what makes a VERY good swimbait rod in my opinion.


    As for reels, there are many that are capable. I use the Shimano Calcutta 400TE. It is the best out there as far as the US version reels go.Again, it depends on how much you're going to fish them and how large of baits you plan on throwing. For 3 ounce baits, the 400 would be my choice. A 300 size reel will work, but I have a 300TE as well; and it isn't as good as the 400. If you can't afford the TE, go with the Shimano Calcutta 400B. From my experience with them, they aren't quit as durable as theTEs; but they cast VERY WELL. The Cardiff 300 or 400 is another choice;as well as the Quantum Cabo PT30. I've fished all of the mentioned reels and if you have any questions about them; just ask. The reel you use will depend on the line size you will be using. I don't fish swimbaits on line less than 20# and I use 25# most of the time.

     

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    YanosickUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:669 Yanosick
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    22 Jan 2010 07:34 PM

    Dang, a 17"  handle is REALLY long. The Dobyns has a 13.5" handle and that seems almost too long. That can't be good on an armpit

     

     

    A long muskie rod should work if you make sure it has a strong backbone, is MH, and  has a fast taper. All of that equals a good rod for swimbaits.

    jonahsdad jonahsdad
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    23 Jan 2010 09:48 PM
    Thanks, I found a Reaction Strike Spence Petros Musky rod: 7 ft. MH, fast taper, 2-8 oz. lures. I am going to match it with an Abu-Garcia Revo Toro61 reel. Not sure what kind or weight of line to use.
    PegsguyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4095 Pegsguy
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    24 Jan 2010 09:46 AM
    With tackle that heavy I'm a firm believer in braid. If needed, a shock leader of mono or fluoro can be added at the buisiness end. The braid also gives you more room on a low profile reel. Tom
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    jonahsdad jonahsdad
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    24 Jan 2010 01:47 PM
    Thanks!!
    YanosickUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:669 Yanosick
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    25 Jan 2010 04:56 PM

    I wouldn't go less than 20 lb line if I were you. Also make sure there is an adequate amount of line on your reel. When you are launching a 4 oz lure, its gonna go far.

     

     

    jonahsdad jonahsdad
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    26 Jan 2010 08:48 PM
    I put anAbu Garcia Revo Toro 61 on it, whichich has 250 yds. of 14 lb test.
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