To give a treble this size the fullness that it needs you need to tie two collars.  After tying in my thread and making a thread bed, I let the bobbin hang about mid shank.  At this point I tie in my first collar and secure it with head cement or clear nail polish.  My second collar I tie in near the line tie.  I finish off and coat all exposed thread with head cement or clear nail polish.  The first pic shows me tying in the second collar:

This last pic shows two completed spinners.  The third one will get a little fancy and I'll post it tomorrow.

I hope you enjoyed this as much as I did!  I have learned a lot and now I can make as many different designs as I need for my tackle box!  Here fishy, fishy, fishy...

Pete, Those look great. And yea the design/combo possibilities are endless.

This is the last of the three.  On this one I added red and white hackle for extra color.  This made for three collars...

This concludes my part of this learning / teaching experience.  If you have anything to add by all means do so!  I will check in from time to time to answer any questions that might arrise.  I will probably start a new thread in the Lures & Bait Forum with pics of the different spinners I make.  Good luck and tight lines!

Pete what is the weight on your body's? it looks to me like those are the 1/5oz ones but I am wanting to make sure I have been reading this and I use spinners for my summer eyes anyways and panther martins are expensive, trying to get into this myself.

Its really rather difficult at times to catch eyes all year round never using live bait but I like the challenge and making spinners is gonna be fun too. Very nice info you put up here and this has helped me lots.

Thanks ahead of time, Clinton.

why not go with a size 8 fluted thatd really get them toothy critters attention.

One more thing to Pete I meant to ask but forgot is there anything you had found that gives you a weight to blade size ratio or a length to blade ratio anything to that point that way you arnt to heavy or to light on your spinners.

Its easier to Judge then be Judged, Its better to be Judged and Learn from it.

Clinton, as of this writing I don't have a clue as to how the bodies weigh.  I will have to take one to the post office and weigh it.  I will post the results as soon as I get it weighed...

I have not found any tables that indicate the typ info you are requesting.  The rule of thumb appears to be, the more weight you add the quicker it will get to deeper water.  This will be your determining factor for how much weight you add.  It will depend on the type water you are fishing (fast, like in rivers or perhaps slower in shallow streams) and perhaps how much structure is in the water.  I envision myself making spinners to suit the type of habitat I am going to fish in.  The color combinations that I have created here I would expect to use in the Gwinn, MI or Mississippi river areas.  The nice thing about this is you can take supplies with you and make them up as you go!  I hope this helps...

The total weight of one of the spinners above is 7/10 of an ounce.  The weight of one of the body pieces is 2/10 of an ounce (two used in these spinners).  I think if you read the info posted about blade size / function and use for what type presentation you wish to make, you will find your answer.  Again, the experimentation is up to you...I hope this helps.

The OLD Stamina website had body weight info handy....but when they did the remake they have omitted the info (where have we seen THAT before  

But for you guyz....the 2 pics here are relative to the bodies they sell

Here's a link to some pics of various lures that should give you guys some more ideas if you want to play around with parts and such...

http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/...r%20Ideas/

As you click on each pic, once it opens, if you put your cursor on it, and then you will see an option in the upper left hand corner to view it "Full Size" as shown in this pic...

Once you do that, the pic should be basically "full screeen".

Great topic Pete...and great job showing folks your steps!

I will start a topic next month about "refurbishing" baits of all kinds....but I will start out with older inline spinners, then spinnerbaits, then spoons and finally crankbaits. If you guys look closely at my pics, you will see a few that I have already "played" with

Thanx Dave, And yea I have been playin around with the parts too. Thats more fun than duplicating brand names

10" 2 3/4 OZ

HERE ARE WHAT I BELIEVE ARE THE PARTS

.062 WIRE, 2 #10 COLORADO BLADES, 2 6/0 TREBLES(MUSTAD), 2 FLASHABOU TIES, 1/2 OZ EGG SINKER, AND SPINNER CLEVISES, SPLIT RINGS, HEATSINK.....ETC.

TRYING TO FIND THE CHEAPEST WAY TO MAKE THEM CONSIDERING THEY ARE 24.49 EA.

Right now I see a cost of $7, not counting the wire or body...I will have to check my catalogue for prices because the Stamina site is out of stock for their mag wire (.062") and they aren't showing the same bodies as your pic.  But I'll bet it will be around $13.00.  Do you have any idea the size on the solid brass beads?

I'd have to guess.  I'd say at 1/2 oz.  The total weight is 2 3/4 oz.  It has to come from that bead and the egg sinker between the 2 flashabou skirts.  Thorne Bros has the .062 wires in 11 inch lengths for .30 ea.

This is what I have so far:

.062 wire (15") = .20

#10 colorado blades (2) = $4.40

magnum clevis (2) = .04

6/0 Mustad trebles (2) = .98 (cheapest price I've found)

solid brass beads (5) = $2.10  (3/8") (hole dia. .093)

solid brass body (#20) 1/2 oz. = .80

flashabou = .50 (?)

total cost =  $9.04

Costs to add would be shipping, perhaps an additional .50 per spinner.  I know nothing about an egg sinker between the two trebles...Wouldn't even know how to make that!  I would think instead of using the brass beads and egg sinker I would add another body weight which would give you 1 ounce.  The weight of the blades would be at least an ounce, giving at total spinner weight of at least 2 ounces...

I have to laugh at the Stamina ad in their catalogue, it states that these spinners cost $8.00 in the store and you can build them for half the cost!  I think the editor needs a reality check!  I hope this is a help.  There are many designs that will accomplish the desired effect that you are looking to achieve.

The wire is actually .051.  so i bet that solid brass body is smaller than i think. 

I adjusted my cost estimate in the above post.  I found the brass beads which added significantly to the cost.  To go to the beads that would work for the .o51 wire, subtract $1.00.  You could use the larger hole diameter body (.062) on the .051 diameter wire.  But if you go to the smaller diameter hole in the body, the weight is only .31 ounce, which will work but you will need two of them (.80 ea) or more brass beads.  The flash a bou skirts are commercially made.  They only cost about .50 to make...

I got to tell ya, I have little experience at making or using these things.  But I would think that the size of the blades and body weight needed (not to mention strength) would indicate the use of the .062 wire.  The .062" wire comes in 15" lengths.  Since you have me investagating this I will probably make some for myself.  Which means I will use the .062" wire so that I have 5" of cut-off material to use another time.  I would recommend that you learn how to make your own skirts...WoW, that's expensive for what they are!  I hope this has been a help to you...