Originally posted by: WALLEYE KING #1 on 11/20/2005 5:53:37 PM

FRANNY I'M NOT PART OF DA GROUP, BUT NICE TO HEAR FROM YA. HOWS BILL DOIN??? YA KNOW WHEN YA HAVE DA MEET I'M USUALLY IN CANADA OPENIN MY COTTAGE, BUT ONE OF THESE DAYS I'LL BE THERE. NICE TO SEE YA STILL HERE...

YOUR FRIEND
HOWARD

Originally posted by: VTFranny on 11/20/2005 4:30:46 PM

We TRIED listing our Annual meet.
May 17th - 21st 2006, only it's different with personal attacks and total take over by Jarhead and Hawkman by having more money to buy us out.

This post thread is what people made it and we gracefully moved the whole NAFC North East Meet to another location due to, We can't compete with the new group who took over our sites as our finances are not above thier hundreds of thousands to our mere 2-3 thousand.. It's a new group and not associated with the REAL 7th ANN. NE Meet. Just a new group with money..

Originally posted by: WALLEYE KING #1 on 11/20/2005 6:28:21 PM

FRAN YOU AND BILL DID DA BEST YOU COULD DO, BUT REMEMBER ONE THING..TRUE FRIENDS WILL NEVER GIVE UP AND DATS WHAT I THINK OF YOU AND BILL EVEN THAT I NEVER MET YA.I'VE READ ENOUGH OF YOUR PAST POSTS AND THIS IS MY IMPRESSION..FIRST IMPRESSIONS IS THE BEST..I'M WITH YA LLA THE WAY..GIVE BILL A HUG FOR ME PLEASE AND TELL HIM, I'M HERE FOR YA...

Originally posted by: FrancisXKampJr on 12/30/2005 7:47:32 PM

Hello Bill and Franny,Probably do not remember me, but I tryed to make it the last 2 years but was unable to. I just can't seem to stay out of the hospital. Now, I'm pretty much laid up and housebound don't go out much. Sold my big boat, still trying to sell the little one. Can't use them anymore. I appreciate the time you called me on the phone, when I was down and out. Sure glad you are still with it and the NE Guys. I hear from Turtle quite a bit and SSCasteel also. Anyway, just wanted to say hello and glad your still around. I don't get on here very much anymore, because of all the bad stuff going on last year. Anyway, anyone reading this, just be glad that you can still go fishing, and be glad for people like Bill and Franny devoting themselves to projects like this. It is no easy task. Thanks for people like this.....Your Friend Frank ( wish I was there )

Originally posted by: WALLEYE KING #1 on 1/2/2006 7:31:26 AM

MORNIN FRANNY. HOW YOU AND BILL DOIN??? HOPE THE MEET GOES GREAT FOR YA. I'LL BE IN CANADA THAT WEEKEND. <!--graemlin::(--> I WISH THE BEST FOR YOU AND BILL. HAVE A GREAT NEW YEAR... <!--graemlin::)-->

FRANK LONG TIME NO TALK TO. SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR MEDICAL PROBLEMS. <!--graemlin::(--> PLEASE STOP BY MORE OFTEN..

Originally posted by: Hawkman on 1/3/2006 2:30:13 PM

Bill & Fran----So far I have attended the Northeast Meet every year and have no intentions to miss this year. My son Wayne will be there, Daryl will be there if her health allows it and my grandson Tony will be there.
I havent responded before because it has been about 6 months since i last visited this bulletin board. There was a time when i checked the BB twice a day----every morning before leaving for work and again when i got home.
But the board has changed and i have lost interest in it. Back when this BB was new, we had a great bunch of guys (and gals) who were dedicated fishermen, interested in helping each other and the newbies. Now, as far as I can see, the BB is just a big BS session. The membership has changed and with that comes a change in the topics and the general feeling of comraderie we once had is gone.
But, we will be there in May just like always. I cant wait to see everyone again and to enjoy the great fishing on Lake George and Lake Champlain.
ROBBIE NH

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 1/4/2006 7:25:51 PM

Well Hawkman I personally have some thoughts for your "BS" session comment...

FIRST off...there are a number of folks that have medical conditions that prevent them from being on the water a lot...still OTHERs of us are planning for major LIFE changes over the next couple of years...are you trying to say that we can't come on here and BS a while <!--graemlin::confused:--> <!--graemlin::(--> I'd like to THINK not <!--graemlin::o-->

Secondly, it's a standing joke among we fisherman that we tend to exaggerate sometimes <!--graemlin::eek:--> that being said, there are STILL a LOT of good folks here that are willing to spend time helping other "Fisher-Persons"...

I personally have posted topics AND Archives of OTHER'S posts for other Members such as...

Links for New Members to various webpages on the Club website...

Tips for Using the BB for New Members to help them navigate the BB, post their pics etc...

I've started topics about River Fishing

And Finding Lake Maps on the 'Net

And Tips for Fishing a Strange Lake

And in the Member's Tips Forum MANY others have responded to questions about fishing and ALL it entails...

ANd there are MANY other "question and answer" topics spread through-OUT the BB <!--graemlin:;)--> by folks who "truly give a sh*t" ..AND answered by folks who are giving knowledge to others here <!--graemlin::cool:--> ouchitabassangler, sscasteel, The Rod Tosser, Ray White, Robert Horn, badchad...just to name a FEW of the folks that have spent MANY hours on here advising others and sharing their knowledge <!--graemlin:;)-->

So MAYBE a valid question is...HOW MUCH time have you actually spent checking these things out <!--graemlin::confused:--> <!--graemlin::(--> and actually taking the TIME to read all of that <!--graemlin::o--> <!--graemlin::(-->

On the OTHER side of the coin, we here on the BB have seen SO MUCH hatred posted here about things that have happened up there in the Northeast <!--graemlin::eek:--> <!--graemlin::(--> and since dang near NONE of us were there, ALL we can see is "one side versus the other" <!--graemlin::eek:-->

Get PAST the ugliness and get ON with the Meets <!--graemlin::)-->

There's NO question that the Northeast Meet was the 1st Meet...and is the Longest Running one too <!--graemlin::)-->

But a GOOD number of us have gotten disillusioned with the rhetoric being used in the squabbles <!--graemlin::(-->

It was WORSE than the political disagreements that MANY of us have engaged in <!--graemlin::eek:--> and a LOT of folks got tired of seeing the negativity towards Meets in general <!--graemlin::o-->

That ALL being said, I wish you ALL a wonderful meet <!--graemlin::cool:--> as I truly enjoyed MY 1st one in LaCrosse last summer <!--graemlin::cool:--> and am planning on going back this summer too <!--graemlin::eek:--> <!--graemlin:;)--> <!--graemlin::cool:-->

And MAYBE...someday...I'll try to make it up that way...IF I'd be welcome <!--graemlin::eek:--> <!--graemlin::confused:-->

Originally posted by: turnip on 1/4/2006 8:10:32 PM

Ok, here is my two cents...I am a new member to this club and I find this web site to be of great value, supportive and just plain fun. If it wasn't like that in previous years then it is a wonder that it survived at all. The members of this club that participate in this web site are a bunch of wonderful folks...Very helpful, carring and know how to have some fun. I plan on attending my first ever meet in LaCross this year. And I like to think that the members of this club conduct themselves properly no matter which meet they attend. hawkman there is some BS but that is just a part of what goes on here...I can't begin to tell you how many questions I've asked and there is always a member ready to help me out. A rookie to the site? Yes, that is true. But I'll take the folks from this site & club any time! I am proud to say I am a member! It is nice to know that there is a meet in the NE. When I look at 2007 and plan a trip, I can tell ya that will be one I'll look hard at. I might even try to talk Howard into joining me.

Pete <!--graemlin::D-->

Originally posted by: papa_d on 1/5/2006 1:31:15 AM

I DON'T MEAN TO BE CRITICAL HERE; BUT I AM... I'VE READ FRANNY'S COMPLAINTS FOR WELL OVER A YEAR NOW. I UNDERSTAND WHY SHE AND HER MATE CHOSE TO BREAK OFF CLUB RELATIONS. I STILL DON'T KNOW IF ALL SHE SAYS IS BS OR NOT; BECAUSE I'VE NOT RUN ACCROSS ANY PERSON OR PERSONS THAT COULD POSSABLY BE AS BAD AS SHE SAYS. I'VE SEEN HER POST ON THE MEETS THREAD FOR AT LEAST FOUR TIMES AND SHE KEEPS BRINGING UP THE SAME-O, EVERY TIME. SHE OBVIEOUSLY IS HOLDING A HEAVY GRUGE AGAINST A FEW MEMBERS HERE; BUT I'VE SEEN NOTHING LIKE SHE DESCRIBES IN HER COMPLAINTS. SORRY FRANNY; BUT YOUR OUTTA LINE, AND I THINK YOU SHOULD BACK OFF. NO ONE WANTS TO READ WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED BEFORE OUR TIME. I'M TRYING TO BE AS DECENT AS I CAN ABOUT THIS; BUT YOU JUST WONT LET IT GO. PLEASE TRY...

Originally posted by: WalleyeWayne on 1/5/2006 5:43:24 AM

VTFranny I've been here for several years now and take offense to some of your comments as well as the misguided remarks from Hawkman. First off, firing "darts" at people and then hiding behind the injury thing just ain't cutting it. There are many, many members on here with debilitating injuries but seldom do I hear them complain and/or hide behind them the way you & your mate Bill, does. As for the "BS" remark, I gotta take that as a direct mark towards me, given I spend a lot of time on here. When ya kid around a lot, ya gotta wonder when enough is too much and if you are even being taken seriously. When you're on here as much as several of the members are, there really is only so much you can talk about before some of it becomes redundant. I'll offer anything I can to another member, trying not to come off as a know-it-all, then, as usual, throw in the odd <!--graemlin::p-->er to try to leave the reader with a smile. If that's construed by some as "BS", then I'm guilty. I believe most of the members will try to provide information to any other member (old or new) if/when they can. You & yours have done well with your meet but you really aren't helping yourselves by slandering others. That, if I recall correctly, was the true reason VTtroller's posting rights were restricted. You can choose (obviously) to go on dissing people here on the BB, or you can make peace with yourselves and better spend your time & energies positively preparing for your 2006 Meet. I wish you success with your upcoming meet and hope that you come to the realization that the NAFC BB Members can be your supporters, not your nemesis!

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 1/5/2006 10:36:22 AM

WE aren't trying to discourage ANYONE from going to your Meet Franny <!--graemlin::(--> in fact BOTH Wayne and I have stated that we wish you folks a Great time at your get-together...

But we ARE defnding ourselves of the "BS session" comment, as folks like Wayne and I (among MANY others) have given alot of our time into helping fellow anglers here...

ANd so we take exception to the comment... <!--graemlin::o-->

Sure...it wasn't addressed to us by NAME, but it implies that we are ALL full of BS here on the BB...and that just ain't right <!--graemlin::(-->

I may razz a bit...but I care about the anglers here too...including you guys...

But like Wayne said...the sooner you guys realize that the whole BB is NOT your nemesis, the better off we'll ALL be...

Originally posted by: turnip on 1/5/2006 10:42:17 AM

quote:

Originally posted by davesett2000:
WE aren't trying to discourage ANYONE from going to your Meet Franny <!--graemlin::(--> in fact BOTH Wayne and I have stated that we wish you folks a Great time at your get-together...

But we ARE defnding ourselves of the "BS session" comment, as folks like Wayne and I (among MANY others) have given alot of our time into helping fellow anglers here...

ANd so we take exception to the comment... <!--graemlin::o-->

Sure...it wasn't addressed to us by NAME, but it implies that we are ALL full of BS here on the BB...and that just ain't right <!--graemlin::(-->

I may razz a bit...but I care about the anglers here too...including you guys...

But like Wayne said...the sooner you guys realize that the whole BB is NOT your nemesis, the better off we'll ALL be...

Originally posted by: Hawkman on 1/5/2006 3:38:55 PM

OK guys, take it easy. I meant no harm. I wasn't talking about any members in particular. I was speaking in general terms.
I was just comparing todays BB to the board of the 90s. Had you been fortunate enough to be a part of that board, and know the guys and gals of that era, you would know what i'm talking about. The changes to this board have been tremendous.
I could ramble on here forever, but I choose not to. I appologize to anyone who feels offended. I really wasn't talking about you.
And my comments had nothing to do with the Northeast Meet. If any of you wish to attend, I'll be the first to shake your hand and welcome you. And I will gladly show you some of the best "hotspots".
You guys really took my comments out of context.

ROBBIE NH

Originally posted by: LIPRIPPER on 1/5/2006 4:36:10 PM

Hi Bill and Franny and How ya'll doing. Did ya'll ever get them Bats out of the house. Yelp I still remember our many post together about them bats. I wasn't around back when the other BB boards were here so I can't say how they were because I've only been active here for not quite two years yet. I miss out chats together and I know that ya'll wasn't talking about all the <!--graemlin::p--> ing we do here now and I know that ya'll know we still share information and help eachother out and I know ya'll hav eseen Walleye Wayne and David and all the others that was mentioned that they do give and post information for to help others out. I have never and will never say anything here to hurt someones feelings and as I see it we just have a misunderstanding of words that wasn't ment the way they were taken. By the way did ya'll ever get rid of them Bats <!--graemlin:;)--> <!--graemlin::D-->
Hawkman I don't think we have ever talked much here so howde.

Originally posted by: turnip on 1/5/2006 7:23:15 PM

No problem hawkman <!--graemlin:;)-->

Pete <!--graemlin::D-->

Originally posted by: davesett2000 on 1/5/2006 8:32:41 PM

Thank you both Franny and Robbie for the explanation I feel a bit better now <!--graemlin:;)-->

But PLEASE...take a look through the links I gave you...and I will give you folks a few more in the next couple of days concerning what some of us do to try to help other Fisher-Folks here...and feel free to post in these topics as MOST of us are STILL learning about fishing and you may have a tip that we have never heard of or may REMIND us of something that is easily overlooked <!--graemlin::eek:--> <!--graemlin::(--> we ALL lose brain cells <!--graemlin::o-->

I had caught the tail end pf the titaniumspinnerbaitman thing...not sure what happened there <!--graemlin::eek:--> but have been sad that he is no longer around as he had a LOT of tips for folks <!--graemlin:;)-->

ANd also TRY to get passed what happened in your past and get on with another good Meet <!--graemlin::cool:-->

We Care <!--graemlin:;)--> <!--graemlin::)--> and not EVERYONE here HATES you <!--graemlin::eek:-->

Originally posted by: turnip on 1/6/2006 6:59:45 AM

quote:

Originally posted by Hawkman:
OK guys, take it easy. I meant no harm. I wasn't talking about any members in particular. I was speaking in general terms.
I was just comparing todays BB to the board of the 90s. Had you been fortunate enough to be a part of that board, and know the guys and gals of that era, you would know what i'm talking about. The changes to this board have been tremendous.
I could ramble on here forever, but I choose not to. I appologize to anyone who feels offended. I really wasn't talking about you.
And my comments had nothing to do with the Northeast Meet. If any of you wish to attend, I'll be the first to shake your hand and welcome you. And I will gladly show you some of the best "hotspots".
You guys really took my comments out of context.

ROBBIE NH

Originally posted by: Johneeed on 1/6/2006 7:11:21 PM

I'd love to attend but...
due to the spring fishing schedule and tides, all my free time is used up chasing stripers and bluefish....Hmmmm3-4 hr drive north, 1-2 hr drive south to cape cod and be fishing....
Sorry I got priorities.... then towards the end of the month I got a 3 hr drive north to maine for a fishing tourney with a private club on a private lake and I CAN'T miss that one....
little lake 126 acres, 7 houses on the lake, 2 lived in year round the others never used...Bass there never seen a lure...INCREDIBLE numbers put up at that little lake...
Good luck with the meet and I'll be fishing with you all in spirit...and get that 8 lb smallie that's swimmin in there will ya!!!!



J.D.

Originally posted by: joda911 on 1/9/2006 1:14:26 PM

Hello Bill & Franny, just wanted to see if ya' remember me. I was reading through some of the post here and I do remember those original days, it was tons of fun getting to no everybody. That sure was a long time ago, huh? I remember us coming over from that original site together, remember....

Something most of you don't know but back in the day before the club launched OUR website it was only the mags that kept us connected. I remember, I use to read through all the mags over and over waiting for the next issue. This went on from 1989 until 1996...

After years of just reading and waiting, the club ventured into the website. I remember reading something about it in early 1996 and finally the club officially launched the opening of the site.

Steve Pennaz gave us the exciting news in his "An Open Line" article on page 10 of that Magazine dated May/June 1996. That was also the year the magazine had changed binding methods...

Wishing you both a wonderful New Year....

Originally posted by: papa_d on 1/13/2006 7:03:17 AM

HECK FRANNY; LAST WEEK WAS THE "GOOD OLE DAYS" FOR ME. I THINK BETTER ONES ARE A COMIN... <!--graemlin:;)-->