BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:10 PM |
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BigDog68 wrote: fish-a-holic wrote: Here are my thoughts on a region map. This is my third version trying to keep a region down to a 1 day drive for anyone. The East may need to be broke into 2. It just doesn't seem posible to break it into 4 regions and make it equitable (I don't know what the big word means, it just seemed to fit).  Jim USArmy 1986-Present Life Member NAFC Member Western Fishers Member Full Moon Fishers "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -- Calvin fish-a-holic, we need to include our northern neighbors and southern neighbors on this proposed regional map. We discussed the regional meets and national celebration at the finger lakes meet, and I have nominated Pete Turnip( to be the member for the eastern region, and since he goes to quite a few meets each year and just about everyone in the club knows who he is), to be the one who takes notes at each meet he goes to when discussion comes up about the regional meets and national celebration. He will keep track of everyones ideas and suggestions and share them with the members at the next meet he attends, and jot down anything they want to add. I also strarted a sign-in sheet that will continue on to each meet for each member and their guest to sign in so we can keep track of attendance at each meet so we can get an estimate figured out for a regional meet. We will keep this thread going throughout the whole process, so if you'd like, you can post your suggestions o here also, just in case you cannot attend a certain meet. BD NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:14 PM |
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JustDave wrote: I've been trading e-mails with Ryan (editor for mag) about possibly getting some help from HQ. It seems they will not get invoved due to liabilty issues. There was apparently some trouble at a meet in the past, (fights?), so they are reluctant to do anything. I will keep asking the question though and try to work my way up the chain until I either get a "yes we'll help" or a flat "no". I think shooting for 2013 will help ease them into it. JustDave  Living Large in Oregon Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:17 PM |
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JustDave wrote: I will donate 2 dozen of m Steelhead jigs for prizes or raffle for the cause. JustDave Living Large in Oregon Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:21 PM |
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skycop wrote: JustDave wrote: I've been trading e-mails with Ryan (editor for mag) about possibly getting some help from HQ. It seems they will not get invoved due to liabilty issues. There was apparently some trouble at a meet in the past, (fights?), so they are reluctant to do anything. I will keep asking the question though and try to work my way up the chain until I either get a "yes we'll help" or a flat "no". I think shooting for 2013 will help ease them into it. JustDave Living Large in Oregon Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service Various members of this club have attempted to "urge" the club to acknowledge these meets and they have flat refused! I do not want to wish you any bad luck, but what makes you think this will be different. Ask some of the members who have been here during this "past time" and what they have attempted. "Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around CYA when I CYA! Take Care, God Bless, AND be careful out there! Had 4,000 + posts under old ID NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:24 PM |
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JustDave wrote: Skycop, Not saying anything will be different. I'm just bullheaded enough to keep pushing without being discouraged. If they never respond, they never respond and I will just have to say "Oh Well". I think the individuals around here can pull it off a National celebration on their own anyway, and it doesn't take much effort on my part to ask the question. I'm in sales and have been rejected by the best, so this shouldn't be any skin off my teeth. Persistence with a lack of anger is the key to any negotiation. BigDog, If you are going to split into regions, I'd suggest a week or two between each region to allow those that wish to attend multiple events time to adjust their schedules around meet dates. JustDave Living Large in Oregon Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:27 PM |
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turnip wrote: JustDave wrote: I've been trading e-mails with Ryan (editor for mag) about possibly getting some help from HQ. It seems they will not get invoved due to liabilty issues. There was apparently some trouble at a meet in the past, (fights?), so they are reluctant to do anything. I will keep asking the question though and try to work my way up the chain until I either get a "yes we'll help" or a flat "no". I think shooting for 2013 will help ease them into it. Dave, there has been discussion around the use of the word "meet" or "member meet" and the negative conitation it has for the editors and those that already conduct member meets. I would strongly urge the use of the word(s) celebration or anniversary when discussing this event. It seems that the editors like to celebrate mile-stones and this might give them a different flavor...We would not be asking them to conduct a member meet for anything. We do a darn good job of that already! I sure wish ole canepole would make his post...I think he makes a lot of sence and perhaps the editors would buy some of his suggestion. After all, the club must take the lead in this effort. My two cents... LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:30 PM |
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JustDave wrote: Very good suggestion Pete. I will try Celebration on my next communication, (tomorrow) and see if that gete me a little further. JustDave Living Large in Oregon Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:37 PM |
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canepole wrote:
A National Celebration..?
I want to congratulate our club on it 20Th Anniversary, and look forward to the next milestone,,25 years.
In five years lets have a 25Th year CELEBRATION,,,a Celebration given by our club for our Club.
This is what I Visualize.
A weekend at one of the conference hotels at Minneapolis or St.Paul Minnesota.
A weekend where all members from all corners are able to come together at one location to
hear a seminar given by people like Dr Hal Schramm, Al Linder, Ted Takasaki, and Dan Gappen,
Just to name a few. and to meet with them afterward,
and in another area wouldn't it Be something to have the machine that was used to test the knots
during the "knot wars" see that in action, then look around the corner and see a display of
"through the years of the Club", Then you hear a voice behind you and its Kurt Beckstrom talking
with a member who just drove up from Texas and was staying at the hotel, What is that behind them,
a display from Rapala with commemorative lures only available here, being given away, got to have
one of them, on the way to the display I pass Steve Penaze talking to some club members.
glance to my left and on the table is a guest book for signing in, a quick glance through it and
there are members from all corners here! Then I hear it,,the unmistakable voice,,"HI HOW ARE YA"
music to my ears, His flight was delayed a little. this weekend has been like a family reunion,
seeing old friends and meeting many new, and this is just the first day. what a weekend this will be!
Looks like a bunch of the wives are getting ready to take the free shuttle to the Mall Of America,
have to smile with the though of how many new wardrobes will be purchased along with matching shoes,
and remembering that Minnesota doesn't have tax on clothing.
Then the tummy rumbles,reminding me about the buffet about to start in a few minutes,
as I get closer to the hall where lunch is, The sound from the room is just alive with laughter and
chatter of all sorts its almost deafening,, where else can you bring together this many people
of so many walks of life and back grounds and have this much enjoyment!
While eating you can hear the plans being made for the upcoming day, The table behind me are planning
to go take the special members only tour of the Lund boat factory, while others going to take a
trip to Hayward Wisconsin to the fresh water hall of fame, and the car load that come up from
Texas is talking about stopping to see the Berkely plant in Spirit lake Iowa on the way home.
And tonight I will be going over the the bunch of members that are staying at the campground just
outside of the "Cities" hoping to do a little night catfishinwith them, they are spending a couple
of extra days into next week,which sounds like fun, also heard a rumor that some of the "Top Names" will
be dropping and fishing with them,,how cool is that!
and for me when this weekend is done Ill be stopping at the new bass pro shop that opened last month
for a few "supply's" Then some members and myself will be fishing on the way home.
as I reflect on the people that I just meet, the stories just heard and told during the last couple of
days I beging to to think that I don't have enough vacation next year to get together with all of the
new friendships that where made here and to get the house painted too,, the painting will have to wait
another year
"Canepole"
"A national Celebration?"
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:41 PM |
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ERABBIT wrote: turnip wrote: Dave, there has been discussion around the use of the word "meet" or "member meet" and the negative conitation it has for the editors and those that already conduct member meets. I would strongly urge the use of the word(s) celebration or anniversary when discussing this event. It seems that the editors like to celebrate mile-stones and this might give them a different flavor...We would not be asking them to conduct a member meet for anything. We do a darn good job of that already! I sure wish ole canepole would make his post...I think he makes a lot of sence and perhaps the editors would buy some of his suggestion. After all, the club must take the lead in this effort. My two cents... LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif .............................................................................. If this is what you think would KILL this idea then it's time to DROP this thread and start one with the proper word(s) in the subject line. Take what you/we have here and start a new thread!!!!!!!! and try to keep it inline on what you/we all want out of the club........  NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:45 PM |
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skycop wrote: skycop wrote: JustDave wrote: I've been trading e-mails with Ryan (editor for mag) about possibly getting some help from HQ. It seems they will not get invoved due to liabilty issues. There was apparently some trouble at a meet in the past, (fights?), so they are reluctant to do anything. I will keep asking the question though and try to work my way up the chain until I either get a "yes we'll help" or a flat "no". I think shooting for 2013 will help ease them into it. JustDave Living Large in Oregon Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service Ryan is ONE of the Editor for the magazine. You still have to convince Kurt of your intentions/desires. Again, I am not attempting to put a damper on this as I do think it is a good idea. There maybe new people in the group, but I still believe, my opinion only, that the "Hard Core folks" are still "In charge" and it is really going to take some doing to have a "change of heart"! "Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around CYA when I CYA! Take Care, God Bless, AND be careful out there! Had 4,000 + posts under old ID NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 06:50 PM |
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turnip wrote: At the Raystown meet, we discussed the 25 year celebration. Everyone thought it was a good idea even if it was likely they would not be able to attend. Everyone felt that the club should take ownership and make the event more central, such as MN. My impression is that a camping arraingement, near where the event is to be held, will be needed for those that may not be able to afford the cost of a hotel. And if the price of gas remains above $3.00 per gal. many won't attend. And Lord only knows what will shake out of this banking meltdown...I have already been notified that one or more of my mutial funds are in trouble. I am waiting to hear what the damage is...So that is my update for the meets I attended this year. LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 07:39 PM |
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mr bill wrote: this is the first time i have had the time to sit and read this tread throu. my vote shall be to change the name.
i don't think its going to hurt anything as long as what has been brought up so far is taken with it as a celibration instead of a meet.
also i hate to say i don't think the club will budge. but hey it can't hurt to try and we can do this thing.
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BigDog68
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| 15 Nov 2008 07:42 PM |
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wellsley wrote: If changing the name and starting a new post is going to help make this work then so be it. Also what is the club officers opinion? I would like to hear what they have to say. The have the power to really put this into motion and make it a celebration that can't be missed. Since everything is $$$ driven there could be alot of $$$ made and still provide and excellant oppertunity for the members. Lifemember and Bushwacker SMF  NAFC Life Member, NAFC Ohio Chapter Co-Chairman, NAFC Ohio Chapter Chaplain, USMC Veteran Semper-Fi, Assistant Pastor, John 3:16,17 |
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davesett2000
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| 15 Nov 2008 10:00 PM |
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JustDave wrote: I've been trading e-mails with Ryan (editor for mag) about possibly getting some help from HQ. It seems they will not get invoved due to liabilty issues. There was apparently some trouble at a meet in the past, (fights?), so they are reluctant to do anything. I will keep asking the question though and try to work my way up the chain until I either get a "yes we'll help" or a flat "no". I think shooting for 2013 will help ease them into it. JustDave Living Large in Oregon Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service skycop wrote:
Ryan is ONE of the Editor for the magazine. You still have to convince Kurt of your intentions/desires. Again, I am not attempting to put a damper on this as I do think it is a good idea. There maybe new people in the group, but I still believe, my opinion only, that the "Hard Core folks" are still "In charge" and it is really going to take some doing to have a "change of heart"!
"Doc" Life Member NAFC Best Club Around CYA when I CYA! Take Care, God Bless, AND be careful out there! Had 4,000 + posts under old ID I can understand their "point" to some degree Doc (and thanks for bringing it up 'bro!) but I've signed enough "non-disclosure / release of liability statements" over the years at varous companies and group functions to know that they could do this without too much trouble. More to the point of getting the lazy-azz lawyers off their cellphones and do some work for a change  Life Member David BB Linkmeister US Army '78-'85 West Coast Member of da EH! Team Kangaroo Kounty Razzer-in-Chief  Life Member David BB Linkmeister
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I dont know where this subject stands, so if its not happening anymore just disreguard my post, I would like to get with people who enjoy to see, breath, taste, smell, and dream of fish just as much I do. You for sure would need a lake big enough to hold atleast 200+ campers which does give us a lot of choice but the locations that keep getting brought up is not a Central Location, I really think we should be Looking more at somewhere like Wilson Res in Kansas somewhere that is more of a Central Location. If you look what is offered in that fishery its not a bad place to go you have plenty of White Bass, Walleye, Stripers, Largemouth, Smallmouth, Crappie, Gills, Big Flatheads, and good size channels. Something for almost everyone except the diehard Muskie and Pike Fishers. Cheney Res Next to Wichita Ks has the camping area for eveyone but the fishery has went downhill over the past 10 years, Have not Heard anything on Cannopolis for a while so I can not speak on that one, But I have heard that Marian has been booming the past few years so it could be good this year too or go downhill. I grew up fishing Wilson Res and I have never seen anything more beautiful, in a long long time, as a matter of fact I still stop by the lake on my way back home To Holdrege Ne from Wichita Ks every holiday just to look at it see how much more mother nature has given it character. It may sound like I am favoring this area cause I live in this area, which may be true. But, it "is" more of a centered loaction for everyone to meet, the real midway USA Kinsley, Ks is only about an hour and a half from there. One more time like I had already stated in this post if this has already been decided thats fine ill go along for the ride, but please disreguard this post. |
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Perch_Jerker
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| 18 Jan 2009 09:23 AM |
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I recently read on another site that certain members received a response from the NAFC stating that they will not promote, endorse or sponsor any member meet or celebration of the 25th anniversary of the NAFC. I also read that since this was the response from the NAFC that those persons were no longer going to be involved in such celebration. My question is, why would anyone promote a club that does not care about them ? I say just keep on doing it the way you are and forget about celebrating a club's 25th anniversary. Therefore, I will not give them free advertising any longer by wearing anything that has their NAFC logo on it. I will not go out and try to get my friends and family to become members of a club that does not care about it's members or their concerns. For those of you members that are holding member meets, you just keep on doing what you are doing....after all, it's about us members and not the club. So I suggest that the next time you have a member meet, just promote your meet for the members and not the NAFC. The NAFC is not a club, it is an advertising company that can kiss my behind. |
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wellsley
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| 19 Jan 2009 11:59 AM |
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Point well taken Perch-jercker. As everyone is well aware money drives the wheel. My hope is that the "CLUB" officers some day will realize that they can make money at these meets and provide a great oppertunity for its members and to increase it membership. I 'm sorry to say that day has yet to come. In the mean time I would encourge everyone to find and go to every member meet you can. Lifemember and Bushwacker SMF
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turnip
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| 19 Jan 2009 09:49 PM |
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Ya Frank, there is true value in attending member meets. It is a shame that the parent company feels this way...I wonder how their clients feel about that...Oh well, fish on!!! LM since 2005 Bushwacker Deputy Sherif |
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Bassbum
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| 06 Jul 2009 07:18 PM |
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Any updates???
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BigDog68
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| 06 Jul 2009 08:33 PM |
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Not yet Fred......We are still in the infant stages and are trying to hold discussions about this event at each and every member meet this year all around the country. After these discussions, a spokesperson from each meet is requested to send their input from each discussion to Pete (Turnip) who is going to help us keep track of all of the input to date. I will be meeting with him at the Finger Lakes Meet to see where we stand so far and then we will post it on here. But....In the meantime, I would like for everyone to continue on here with their input on this topic. Thanks and I hope to be working with you as well with this topic. BD .
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