suggestions for boating laws
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AZAllenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2427 AZAllen
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31 May 2009 12:14 PM

Fishermanj. it is you that has kept this going by your "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" attitude  and your arrogance.  You are truly entitled to your opinion but when ones mind is "made up" (closed) ahead of time then you are not seeking discussion about your views, you are seeking affirmation and are apparently very upset that you are not getting it. 

It also seems that you have decided to become a crusader on that subject, which is certainly your right.  You should not be surprised that those whose toes you step on, get P.O.ed. 

 

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fishermanjUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:124 fishermanj
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31 May 2009 02:47 PM

EZrabbit it's awful to hear you had a mother pass away and I don't care to hear about you going to a lake with motors,becasue it's not a law yet,but maybe in the future.THE LAW ISN'T WITH YALL while you said it was EZRABBIT,YOU'RE WRONG on that one.

I'm not the one who says not to post,the site owner is the one deleting this post which means if it don't stop it will hurt membership on here,so don't tell me about others getting P.O ed because I can get P.O ed too AZALLEN.It's the site owner to worry about on here.Not members like you!This site limits your speech and it's not a free speech,so if anyone wants to talk they can do it on messenger.It's no good talking on here when it can hurt membership.

 

AZALLEN I don't care how you feel about it because I didn't step on anyones toes,so I don't care who gets P.O ed as you claim.I'm not the one with the problem on here it's the rest of you who can't handle different opinions.I'm not going to keep posting on this site when they try to say it can cost you your membership with NAFC.READ THE TERMS OF USE "TERMINATION" SECTION.I just gave my opinion which other's don't like,no more than drivers like speeding laws,the same applies to gas motors if they ever make laws,years or centuries from now.Messenger is better because it's all open chat,no limits to your speech on here one thing and it's deleted.Others have kept this posting going,not me and I say just let it die off,because it will hurt memberships otherwise and it's not worth losing membership.

If anyone has anything to say they want to be seen they'll use messenger so it can't be erased or terminate your membership.Let's just end this post and let it drift away for good.As long as we keep posting it will never end it will destroy our membership according to the user agreement.This ain't the place to post this anyways.Lawmakers and the government are the only ones who can view this and decide,not anyone on here.Let's just end this post before it costs all of us memberships.

retired-psgUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1316 retired-psg
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31 May 2009 04:41 PM
FJ if you want this to end as you say then all you have to do is stop posting your arrogant replies to anyone who disagrees with you and it would quietly go away.But you just keep ranting along so it won't stop JMHO
Retired-psg /Infantry,Purple Heart and a Few others, VietNam Vet, Ex Deputy Sheriff SCCSD, and all around good Guy! Living in Wisconsin
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wellsleyUser is Offline Senior Poster Senior Poster Send Private Message Posts:5999 wellsley
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31 May 2009 04:58 PM
I have to say that after spending two years at the finger lakes meet and having people like erabbit and turnip cart me around in there boats. I went out and bought my own. You guys are spreading the disease and should be ashamed of yourselves. I just came back from the thousand islands on the St. Lawrence river and the amount of boats there is incredible. I marvel at the amount of money that is running up and down that river. So erabbit you have to take the blame for getting more people into boating.
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fishermanjUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:124 fishermanj
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31 May 2009 05:33 PM
retired-psg wrote:
FJ if you want this to end as you say then all you have to do is stop posting your arrogant replies to anyone who disagrees with you and it would quietly go away.But you just keep ranting along so it won't stop JMHO
Retired-psg /Infantry,Purple Heart and a Few others, VietNam Vet, Ex Deputy Sheriff SCCSD, and all around good Guy! Living in Wisconsin


If you think I'm just gonna HUSH my opinion then you need brain treatment retired psg,because I just give my opinion,so you're lost in your dreams if you think I'm not gonna give my opinion.You're the ranting one going on about a post like this,so if you wanna lose your membership,keep posting like you are,because according to the terms for termination,you get no refund when they terminate your account for violation of the terms,so if you wanna lose your membership keep posting,otherwise let it go,because I don't wanna lose my benefits like you might retired psg and whatever you mean my JMHO that don't say anything.

You are the one typing arrogant replies when someone disagrees retired psg,not me.Everyone has their own opinion just as I have mine and it's you keeping it on retired psg,so just let go of it and this will die off for good!This isn't the site for discussion like you seem to think retired psg.Any discussions,like this,here will cost membership according to terms of use.I am not the one who's gonna lose membership for violation like you might want to retired psg.I'm trying to end it while some on here like you is trying to grow it and it needs to die off and go away before kills our membership with NAFC.

If you care for your membership,as the terms say,retired psg you'll let this post die.I don't think anyone here wants anything to risk their membership so we should all agree on one thing,forget this whole post.It's going nowhere but losing our membership,because of the speech we have.We can't post our feelings here and enjoy membership.It's like we have to pick between our opinion and our membership,because it's been deleted and that means if it keeps going it will be a violation according to the terms.It's not this post we to worry about anyomre,it's our membership.Read the terms it says it all.They have members hooked with the terms,so why don't we let go of it so we don't have anything more to deal with or worry about because it's going from our opinions to our membership according to the terms.All I think about now is the terms because that's what will matter if they take away membership and I don't want mine at risk like some here may such as retired psg who don't wanna forget the whole thing.

retired-psgUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1316 retired-psg
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01 Jun 2009 08:54 PM
Hey who's been out lately?? anyone catching anything?? Went out Sun. for a few hrs. trying to get the new engine broke-in 90 optimax real smooth running motor.Was catching Largemouths
Retired-psg /Infantry,Purple Heart and a Few others, VietNam Vet, Ex Deputy Sheriff SCCSD, and all around good Guy! Living in Wisconsin
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fishermanjUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:124 fishermanj
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01 Jun 2009 11:52 PM
Oh and did you catch anything Retired psg or only largemouth?
fish-a-holicUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:774 fish-a-holic
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02 Jun 2009 02:34 PM

  retired_psg, did you get that brain treatment yet? I was thinking of converting my OLD boat to electric, but I think I'll just keep the 1976 85HP Johnson that put 30% of its fuel straight into the river. At least I will be able to keep up with you guys in your newer non-poluting boats.

  FJ, even the president can't change boating laws. It doesn't matter what the hippie/treehuggers want. There is too much money to loose by both business, and local government through tourism. And no law will pass the congress unless the lobbyist want it to.

  A much worse polution in our waters in Agriculture and the runoff from farms. My local river was poisoned and ALL the fish killed because of Pig Manure that ran off into the river. The alge bloom that you see all the time is not from gas motors, it is from fertilizer that enhances the growth rate of alge that consumes all the oxygen and thereby killing the fish. Or look at your local municipality, are they dumping raw sewage into the rivers? Its still happening.

JMHO


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fishermanjUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:124 fishermanj
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02 Jun 2009 03:56 PM

Fish-a-holic presidents can change anything they want,so you're wrong on that one.You wanna put fuel in the river,see you're up to pollution.Now it's you keeping it on.Leave this post alone about gas motors and let it go away fish-a-holic like the rest of us are.I never said it's the only thing or the worst thing,I said it's just another thing hurting the waters,but we've all forgot about this post and let's keep it this way.Fish-a-holic you have to let go like the rest of us.It's gone out of discussion,so don't try to bring it back up,no one else has,nor have I said anything else,because we can't speak freely on here.I stopped,everyone else stopped,now fish-a-holic you should drop it,too,so it goes away.We've all agreed to forget about this so why don't you fish-a-holic.Back to retired psg.Have you caught anything or just largemouth?I'm just wondering how much luck your area has.My area has hardly no fish nearby.

retired-psgUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1316 retired-psg
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02 Jun 2009 08:00 PM
My area is great! and I know you don't want to hear this FJ but your the one who keeps reviving this. No one else ! if you would stop posting and just contact the EPA or your local DNR maybe you could do some good for your area. Just stop bad mouthing folks and maybe you could come to enjoy the club.
Retired-psg /Infantry,Purple Heart and a Few others, VietNam Vet, Ex Deputy Sheriff SCCSD, and all around good Guy! Living in Wisconsin
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fishermanjUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:124 fishermanj
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02 Jun 2009 08:42 PM
Retired psg it's you reviving this,not me and it's you who has to stop bad mouthing,not me.You're the one not dropping and forgetting this post ever existed,so it's you who has to let go and forget about this ever existing then maybe you'll be able to enjoy your benefits like I enjoy mine retired psg.Do like I and most of us and just forget this post ever existed!!
fish-a-holicUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:774 fish-a-holic
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03 Jun 2009 10:06 AM

  Presidents are puppets and anything they do can be undone by the ones that follow.

  I was really more interested in finding out if retired-psg had that brain treatment yet, and how it was coming along.

  And as long as I follow the rules I can post whatever and whereever I want.

 


Jim USArmy 1986-Present Life Member NAFC "Life is sexually transmitted"
fishermanjUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:124 fishermanj
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03 Jun 2009 01:04 PM
Fish a holic forget about brain treatment.That's nothing to ask about.Don't say about posting where you want.I can go to your posts and post what I want on yours,too!!!Of course those who follow can change what presidents do,so what!That's a different story.You're on the wrong site to talk about that.This is a fishing site,so leave that president stuff out of here.Fish a holic do you not see the news about this post(figure of speech).This post has been forgotten by many of us,so why don't you,too.This post wasn't going anywhere,but our memberships on the line,so we all said forget it,now you need to forget it,too.
fish-a-holicUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:774 fish-a-holic
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03 Jun 2009 03:05 PM

  My membership is not on the line. I have not said or done anything to warrant loosing my membership. Just because no one else wants to post here doesn't mean that I can't. And you are welcome to post all over mine, it makes no difference to me.

  By the way I won't be able to "chat" with you for a while. I am going to Alaska to do a little work and a lot of fishing. As a tax payer I would like to thank you for the trip. I couldn't do it on my own dime.

 

  


Jim USArmy 1986-Present Life Member NAFC "Life is sexually transmitted"
retired-psgUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1316 retired-psg
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03 Jun 2009 03:14 PM
Fish Naw same old brain. On another venue Bad Fish Bad Enjoy your trip on our Dime,just bring something back as long as it's not snow.
Retired-psg /Infantry,Purple Heart and a Few others, VietNam Vet, Ex Deputy Sheriff SCCSD, and all around good Guy! Living in Wisconsin
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fishermanjUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:124 fishermanj
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03 Jun 2009 04:20 PM
Fish a holic,yours will be on the line too if you post any bad stuff.As far as tax payer,I can thank you for paying for my gear I own as false as you are about me paying for your vacation.You're false about paying for your trip.That would be like me thanking you for my gear and telling you I couldn't do it on my own dime.You are out of your mind fish a holic about paying for your trip.I can thank you the same way for being a tax payer and paying for my stuff,too,but that would be false like you are,so don't say I've paid for yours because I haven't nor would I.Enjoy your trip on your own dime fish a holic.This post isn't what it was to start with,so forget the post as it was.I'll post on yours fish a holic and you can post whatever on this,but leave the old stuff out of it,because it went as far as memberships on the line and this is no place for free speech about topics like the starting topic.Let us know how your trip goes on your own dime,LOL!
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03 Jun 2009 05:02 PM
fish-a-holic wrote:
 

  By the way I won't be able to "chat" with you for a while. I am going to Alaska to do a little work and a lot of fishing. As a tax payer I would like to thank you for the trip. I couldn't do it on my own dime.

 

 

  


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ERABBITUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2287 ERABBIT
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05 Jun 2009 06:15 AM
$60.00 wort of BOAT gas since Monday boxed about 16 lakers and two landlock salmon. Every thing we did was within the laws on the books NOW !!!!!! Troll , troll , troll what a fun way to fish for a Ole fart like me.
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ERABBITUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2287 ERABBIT
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05 Jun 2009 06:32 AM
Mr. fishermanj I guess it was GOOD for you to hear about my Dad and step Dad passing............Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!
I was fishing in N.Y. state waters with a boat that is register in Pa.( Note the registration is current)(Note the boat can pass a Coast Gaurd safty inspection).
The lake is Seneca Lake.   
   Now show me where I was wrong. Show me where I am breaking the law. Show me where I was wrong that the LAW is NOT with me. Show me. While you are at it show me in the TERMS for this site where I have posted anything that is NOT Ok !!!!! Where I have to FEAR losing my membership.
SHOW ME !!!!!!!
fishermanj wrote:

EZrabbit it's awful to hear you had a mother pass away and I don't care to hear about you going to a lake with motors,becasue it's not a law yet,but maybe in the future.THE LAW ISN'T WITH YALL while you said it was EZRABBIT,YOU'RE WRONG on that one.

I'm not the one who says not to post,the site owner is the one deleting this post which means if it don't stop it will hurt membership on here,so don't tell me about others getting P.O ed because I can get P.O ed too AZALLEN.It's the site owner to worry about on here.Not members like you!This site limits your speech and it's not a free speech,so if anyone wants to talk they can do it on messenger.It's no good talking on here when it can hurt membership.

 

AZALLEN I don't care how you feel about it because I didn't step on anyones toes,so I don't care who gets P.O ed as you claim.I'm not the one with the problem on here it's the rest of you who can't handle different opinions.I'm not going to keep posting on this site when they try to say it can cost you your membership with NAFC.READ THE TERMS OF USE "TERMINATION" SECTION.I just gave my opinion which other's don't like,no more than drivers like speeding laws,the same applies to gas motors if they ever make laws,years or centuries from now.Messenger is better because it's all open chat,no limits to your speech on here one thing and it's deleted.Others have kept this posting going,not me and I say just let it die off,because it will hurt memberships otherwise and it's not worth losing membership.

If anyone has anything to say they want to be seen they'll use messenger so it can't be erased or terminate your membership.Let's just end this post and let it drift away for good.As long as we keep posting it will never end it will destroy our membership according to the user agreement.This ain't the place to post this anyways.Lawmakers and the government are the only ones who can view this and decide,not anyone on here.Let's just end this post before it costs all of us memberships.



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fishermanjUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:124 fishermanj
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05 Jun 2009 02:33 PM
As far as your mom and dad,that's bad to hear,but this post is a different matter.ERABBIT shut up about law being on your side,they are on no one's side or you would see them holding up a sign we're on ERABBIT's side,so just shut up about law being on your side and forget about this post like I said before.There's still a few critters coming back for trouble on this post and it has to end or it goes to membership according to the terms.You scroll to the bottom and read the terms.I didn't say specifically who,I said memberships in general so don't ask me to show you nothing,because I don't have to.I don't care to discuss gas anymore whenever the law is ready they'll decide and nothing will be taken away like memberships on here.On here discussions like this led to verbal abuse by many,so forget this post ERABBIT,now it's you steadily speaking of the gas,oh well when the time comes everything will change until then go on.Enough of the talk about gas ERABBIT.No one can change anything except the law when they are ready.Quit coming back to this post to discuss gas ERABBIT that was over with long ago because it put alot of memberships on the line!Leave that out of it.
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