are there any good largemouth spots in CO?
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JLWRIGHTUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:76 JLWRIGHT
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29 Feb 2008 06:51 PM
Josh,
Sorry about the late reply, I'm in the middle of wrapping up month-end at work. I should be finished by sometime tomorrow afternoon. I missed the classic. My wife, son and I went to the Home & Garden show. It looks like I'll get to spend the boat money on a patio this spring. We found about 16 contractors to get estimates from either on concrete or pavers...mostly pavers. It looks like we'll have to wait for the income tax refund before we pick out a boat. Inoticed this week Cherry Creek reservoir is starting to thaw off pretty good. Which means it probably won't be long until Aurora reservoir thaws off. I'm starting to camping reservations booked for the family. Memorial Day week-end we're going up to Shadow Mtn Reservoir hopefully we'll get into some Kokanee and Browns. Unfortunately it sounds the beetle kill took a toll on the trees in that area. We're also looking at taking some trips to Bear Lake near Yampa and Silver Jack Reservoir near Montrose are good places to camp. You just have to be extra careful of Bears near silver jack. Take care, Jason
JLWRIGHTUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:76 JLWRIGHT
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29 Feb 2008 07:02 PM
neilpete, What part of sout/southeast are you looking? What kind of fishing do you plan on doing? I've heard Pueblo Reservoir is an awesome place for Wipers and Walleye. I don't know if you know who Russ Moran was, but he was an old time bass fisherman who was on the cover of Time Magazine a few decades ago for his bass fishing expertise. He was a fantastic fisherman and an all around good guy. Before he passed away he moved down to Pueblo and loved fishing that place if it's any testimony to the fishing there.

I'm not terribly familiar with the Nee Noshe, Nee Grande etc, but they are in the south east part of the state, but I've read they have a pretty good Saugeye population. Wish I could be of more help, but to be honest I don't make it down there very often these days.  Good Fishing, Jason
masterson masterson
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03 Mar 2008 08:50 PM

Jason, i also have some camping plans. right when the ice thaws my dad, brother and I are going to head up to elevenmile annd try and get some pike. I went to Bass Pro yesterday and got a few bags of frogs. last season buzzbaits and frogs worked really well up there. i still think it will be a while till it thaws. Josh

JLWRIGHTUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:76 JLWRIGHT
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06 Mar 2008 06:42 PM
Josh, That sounds like a good plan. Good time of year to get into pike. Let me know how you do. It might thaw sooner than you think. The wind up there will help thaw that lake just as well as warm weather. I drove by Quincy Reservoir the other day and it's thawing out pretty good. It shouldn't take much longer for it to thaw out. Cherry Creek is almost completely thawed off. I'm going to drive out to Aurora Reservoir tomorrow and see what the conditions are.   As soon as the ice thaws at Aurora and Quincy, the rangers will drop their boats in the water and then open it up to other boats. I'll also be making a trip out to Bass Pro tomorrow. One of my walleye rods got caught in the door jam on my truck, so it's time to get a new one. I know years ago, Elevanmile used to have a Mackinaw population, but you just don't hear much these days. If it still has Mackinaw, you would probably have a good chance of getting into them too at ice out. It's one of the few times of the year, Mackinaw will venture out of the deep and cruise the shallows for smaller fish. Good Fishing, Jason
masterson masterson
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07 Mar 2008 11:53 PM
Jason, thats too bad to hear about your pole. i actually had that happen to me before. i got home after getting my pole and accidentally slammed it in the car door. i wass pretty upset. that is cool to know that there are lakers in elevenmile. that sure would be nice to hook into one of those. tell me how the lakes are tomorrow. it will be nice to know what is fishable. Josh
JLWRIGHTUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:76 JLWRIGHT
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09 Mar 2008 02:12 PM
Hey Josh, It's not the first time I've lost a fishing pole that way. I guess it's just the odds of several years of fishing. I went out to Aurora to check out the conditions and it was still mostly frozen. There was a little open water in front of the dam and handicap pier. I would say it's at least another 2 weeks until it's thawed. Good fishing, Jason
masterson masterson
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10 Mar 2008 07:45 PM
Jason, do you know if the western chatfield ponds are thawing yet? i am prepping the belly boat because as soon as it thaws i am going to float the cat-tails and try some jigs for some bass. Josh
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15 Mar 2008 07:13 AM
Josh,
I haven't been over that way for a while. I did go by  Quincy the other day, and all of the lake visible from the road was thawed, however the water level was very low. Usuualy the city of Aurora will buy water to pump in,  but I bet with all the snow this year up in the hills they're probably waiting to see what the run off does.I'm still keeping an ear out for Aurora Reservoir. I'm anxious to get my boat on the lake this year. If I hear anything on the west Chatfield ponds, I'll let you know.Jason
masterson masterson
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20 Mar 2008 09:51 PM
Jason, i went to some bass pond today and caught a couple of small largemouth. tomorrow im going to fish the restricted loading docks at chatfield. im sure since theres no boats we can get away with it. a worm on a jighead just kills out there. ive caught some 1-2 lb smallmouth and largemouth bass and some 20 -22 inch rainbows from by that dock. you arent allowed on the dock however if you wade in from the ramp and flip it next to the dock the fish are totally unfished and hungry as can be. ill tell you if i get anything good tomorrow. Josh
masterson masterson
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21 Mar 2008 12:00 AM
Jason, heres a few pictures. the crappie picture was 2 crappie on one little rig its sort of hard to see.  and the hawg bass is one my freind brought in at chatfield. Josh
JLWRIGHTUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:76 JLWRIGHT
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21 Mar 2008 09:35 PM
Josh, Those are some nice fish. It's always fun getting into a mess of crappie and bluegill. Nice cat and bass. I've been driving out to Aurora, Reservoir after work this week. When I checked, it was almost completely thawed off except for the marina bay and the bay across from the boat ramps. I bet in a week or so, they'll start allowing boats on the lake. Unfortunately, I'm on call this week at work so I won't be able to get out there to do any fishing this week. I'm ready to get out there though. I picked up a new shimano fishing rod at sportsman's warehouse for $100, but at least it has a lifetime warranty if it breaks.It's the only brand sportsman's warehouse will replace on site as long as you have your receipt. Good luck at Chatfield, I look forward to hearing the report. Jason
masterson masterson
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22 Mar 2008 08:09 PM
jason, it's always fun getting a new pole. i hope it works out well for you. chatfield was kind of lame. they just put the docks in the water so there wasnt too many fish. i had one on with a dropshot worm but he broke me in the rocks. but redstone, my pond is supposed to open up in april. redstone is a pond that is just filled with trout, bass, crappie, bluegill and about 100 channel cats. only about 15 are over 5 lb though. however ive pulled out a few over 10 lb. and as a plus the fish there are half braindead and will bite nearly anything you throw at them. and it is right next to my house. if we get skunked at chatfield we will go to redstone to get on the board. it is a fun little pond to fish. Josh
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23 Mar 2008 10:08 AM
Josh, I went out to Aurora Reservoir about 1/2 hour before they closed last night and talked to one of the rangers. Even though it looked like the lake was thawed off completely, he said there were still some large ice chunks floating around back in the Lone Tree bay and Senac Cove...both of which you can't see from the parking lot. He said it might be about a week before they open it up to boats, but said they're busy talking over preventative measures for zebra mussels, so that might put another delay on boats. If that happens, I might have dust off my belly boat. I assured him, I haven't had my boat on Pueblo Reservoir (Where the zebra mussels were found in CO). Redstone sounds like a fun pond. There is another pond like that up in Thornton in the Hunter's Glen subdivision. I wouldn't mind getting into a mess of good size crappies. They're pretty tasty. I'm sure Chatfield will pick up eventually. It always does. Take care, Jason
masterson masterson
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23 Mar 2008 09:09 PM
Jaosn, it is nice that aurora will be opening soon. i might want to make some trips down there this year. however i dont get my liscence uintill november. so i have to go everywhere with my dad, unfortunately he isn't as avid of a fisherman as i am. what do zebra mussels do to a lakes habitat? i remember a similar infestation at elevenmile a few years back of some kind of snails from africa or something. im not totally sure. Josh
JLWRIGHTUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:76 JLWRIGHT
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26 Mar 2008 12:37 PM

Josh, Zebra mussels cause a whole bunch of problems from eating up the plankton resources in a lake to clogging up drainages to polluting reservoirs. Here is an article on them if  you would like some reading material.

Zebra Mussels

Sketch of zebra mussels

Zebra mussels are a huge pest accidentally brought into the Great Lakes, possibly on the hulls or in the ballast water of vessels from Europe, which has been plagued by zebra mussels for centuries. A temperate, freshwater species, zebra mussels have spread to many other lakes and rivers in the US and Canada. Prodigious eaters, they filter out nearly all the phytoplankton (and small zooplankton) in the 15-40 micrometer size. By removing most of the food for microscopic zooplankton and filter feeders, which in turn support larval and juvenile fishes and other animals, zebra mussels can effectively starve the native populations of infested lakes and rivers. Lakes that were full of phytoplankton before zebra mussel infestation are devoid of the algae afterwards.

Zebra mussels were first discovered in 1988 in Lake St. Clair, a small lake between Lake Erie and Lake Huron. Their free-swimming, nearly invisible larvae, called veligers, may have been discharged from the ballast water of one or more transoceanic ships in 1985 or 1986. Since then, they have spread almost to New England, and states are working feverishly to educate boaters so the mussels don't spread farther.

Within two to three weeks, the veligers "settle" and attach by strong byssus threads to hard surfaces such as rock, wood, glass, rubber, fiberglass, metal, gravel, and native mussels. They grow best in areas of free-flowing water where they can filter out large quantities of plankton. Colonies of zebra mussels may accumulate and clog water-intake pipes and screens of drinking water facilities, industrial facilities, power generating plants, golf course irrigation pipes, cooling systems of boat engines, and boat hulls. Zebra mussels grow rapidly to about thumbnail size, mature within a year, and reproduce prolifically. An adult female can produce 30,000-100,000 eggs each year!

Zebra mussels (Dreissena polymorpha) are native to eastern Europe, having existed there long before industrialization. There, people building factories and other facilities just take them into account and design ways to work around them, For example, a designer may build facilities with two sets of pipes so one set can be closed off when it becomes fouled. The clean one takes over while the other is de-musseled. In western Europe, where zebra mussels have been around for 200 years, diving ducks have made them an important part of their diet.

Besides clogging pipes and devouring most of the available microscopic food supply, zebra mussels may present a health hazard by increasing human and wildlife exposure to organic pollutants such as PCBs and PAHs. Studies have shown that zebra mussels can accumulate the pollutants in their tissues in concentrations 300,000 times greater than in the environment. They deposit these pollutants as pseudofeces, loose pellets of mucous mixed with particulate matter that they filter from the water. Scavenging animals that eat the pseudofeces may pass these pollutants up the food chain. When the zebra mussels coat bathing beaches, the sharp-edged mussels cut the tender feet of swimmers.

Trace the invasion of zebra mussels in the U.S., and predict their next attack!

1. Discuss the history of zebra mussels and their impact on humans and the food chain.

2. Trace by satellite the route by which zebra mussels came into the Great Lakes on the hulls of commercial vessels.

3. The Zebra Mussel Range Map is prepared by the New York Sea Grant Program. It is updated about every 3-4 months to report new sightings. Using the map from May, 1995, connect the round dots and bold lines which indicate the locations of zebra mussel sightings.

Shade in the infested areas.

How far South have zebra mussels spread? How far North? East? West?

Have they reached New England? What infested body of water is closest to Maine?

Once they are introduced into a body of water on boat hulls or in ballast water, how can they spread? (by floating downstream, free-swimming veligers, by attaching to something else and being carried)

4. Find the small lake called Lake St. Clair between Lake Erie and Lake Huron, where zebra mussels were first sighted in the US.

Using an atlas to determine scale, calculate how far zebra mussels have spread in a decade.

5. The spread of the zebra mussels may be limited by water temperature. Zebra mussels don't do well where average summer temperatures are above 81oF (27oC) and where average summer temperatures are below 54oF(12oC). Females spawn when water temperatures get above 54oF.

Using an infrared satellite image showing water temperatures in late summer (at their peak), predict which areas might manage to evade zebra mussel infestation.

Tracking phytoplankton decline

Lake Erie was one of the first places infested by zebra mussels. Adult zebra mussels were discovered there in 1988, so they may have been present since 1986. Examine CZCS images of the Great Lakes to determine the amount of phytoplankton in 1985. Examine a SeaWIFS image of the area today and discuss the change over the last ten years.

Trying to control zebra mussels

Find out more about the techniques that are being used to get rid of these animals. Chlorine has worked effectively to kill zebra mussels, but it also harms everything else, so alternatives more benign to the ecosystem are being explored. See the bibliography for places to contact for more information.

Duck migration on the Great Lakes may be changing as a result of the increase in food supply. How could you research whether or not this is happening?

Mussel observations

For obvious reasons, it is illegal to transport zebra mussels over state lines, so you can't study them directly (except their empty shells), but you can examine blue mussels which have a similar physiology. Blue mussels are not the pests their cousins are.

Examine live blue mussels to get an idea of what zebra mussels look like. Zebra mussels are smaller, and as their name suggests, variegated in color. Discuss why you can not buy live zebra mussels in Maine.

Aliens in the environment

According to a 1993 study, at least 4,500 non-indigenous species have set up residence in the United States. Fifteen percent of these cause severe harm, ranging from the displacment of native species to the destruction of habitat to an estimated $97 billion economic impact in market losses and pest control costs between 1906 and 1991.

Research other creatures (plants and animals) that have been introduced accidentally into New England habitats and how they have affected the environment (for example, feather grass Phragmites, the gypsy moth, a seaweed known as "deadman's fingers" Codium fragile tomentoides, the common periwinkle Littorina littorea, etc.)

Discuss means by which this problem could be averted or reduced (including more stringent national laws, better regulatory coordination among states, and environmental education about the potential dangers of importing non-native species).

Materials

zebra mussel database information for your state, atlas, bag of blue mussels purchased at a seafood store, satellite imagery


 

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masterson masterson
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31 Mar 2008 08:37 PM

Jason, wow, that is really something. thanks for getting me the article. sorry i have been in grand junction for a while so i havent been on lately. have you made any fishing trips yet? i hope on going this weekend. josh

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03 Apr 2008 08:10 PM
   hay dude it is chris and i finally figured out the web site go to chatefield at the spill way with a live minnow
JLWRIGHTUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:76 JLWRIGHT
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12 Apr 2008 01:04 PM
Hey Josh,
I went out to Aurora, Res a couple Sundays ago. It was non-stop trout action. Trolling different spoons.My friend Johnny caught a 4 lbs Rainbow. The smallest one we caught was 15 inches. I'm stuck working today, but I'm hoping to get everything done in time to head back out to Aurora, Reservoir tomorrow. I hope fishing is going good for you. Jason
masterson masterson
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16 Apr 2008 10:41 PM
jason, im glad aurora was a fun time. i didnt catch anything this weekend. unfortunately today i shattered my elbow in my lacrosse game today so i wont be fishing for a while. good luck! Josh
JLWRIGHTUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:76 JLWRIGHT
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25 Apr 2008 05:54 PM
Josh, sorry to hear about your elbow. I haven't been out since that week-end. I hope your elbow heals soon. Take good care, Jason
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