JJENKTA
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| 01 Jun 2008 09:39 PM |
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Hello all,
Im a new member, live in Wichita. I go to El Dorado and Cheney mostly. Nice to see people getting together in Kansas.
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Huskyhush
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| 01 Jun 2008 10:09 PM |
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Hello there. Glad to have another member on board. We are trying to grow in our numbers. What do you fish for in cheney and el dorado. I tend to stick to the smaller bodies of water. Less trecking i have to do. I don't like trolling and I know cheney is popular for that. I fish for bass and if another fish bites then I will accept that, but I mainly like bass. Welcome to these boards and keep on checking for our next adventure. Dominic
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krush1967
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| 02 Jun 2008 06:25 AM |
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Welcome new member. Too bad you missed our little get together. I will be moving forward with plans to organize a Kansas wide multi species fish club. I hope you will be interested and look forward to seeing you at the next outing. |
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JJENKTA
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| 02 Jun 2008 07:31 PM |
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Thanks guys, look forward to fishing with ya'lls. I fish for whatever bites, but getting more into bass. Just bought my first boat so Im pretty excited. Got a nice fishing cove in El Dorado where I catch wipers and Walleyes. Havent been to Cheney for a yr or so, but use to fish off the boat ramps and catch some nice size channels, but stop going there due to the perch getting pretty bad.
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John C. Taylor
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| 02 Jun 2008 07:41 PM |
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Welcome aboard!!!!!! |
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JoeB
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| 02 Jun 2008 07:43 PM |
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Welcome to our world, hope you like it. I've read on the KWDP site that the perch population is down this year so it should be better. I like to fish in the local city lakes because of time conflicts, but I usually go to Cheney when I go. Life Member since 1996, Greenlantern,
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tbgifted
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| 04 Jun 2008 08:17 PM |
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My Wife has some nieces and nephews that live in Wichita and they fish Cheney. They said that the white perch took a hard hit this winter and the die off was pretty bad. I guess that is bad news for those that like fishing for perch because there is only one other lake in the state that has perch as I recall but I can not remember the name of the lake at the moment. There may be one up north that has yellow perch someplace near Topeka but the guy that told me about it moved away a few years ago. Perch is one fish that I can not recall ever catching before but those guys that live up in northern states sure seem to like them, I will have to give it a try someday maybe. Anyway, welcome to the site. If you ever want to to get away from the city and drive southeast, I'm here in Sedan. Plenty of places to fish here and I have a boat. I'll be happy to take you fishing.
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rodrigo
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| 06 Jun 2008 08:09 AM |
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Hey Trace, I lost a bet about white perch in KS once. There's a book called the Fishes of Kansas and it was printed apparently before they were accidentally introduced into KS waters. So when someone said they were catching white perch in KS, I told them they weren't, only to learn in fact, they were. I called the author of the book. Here's a fact that I found interesting, white perch are not in the perch family. The perch family consists of yellow perch, walleye, saugers and saugeyes. White perch are members of the temperate bass family, which include the native KS white bass. In KS they are considered a nuisance exotic species and in Cheney they have overrun the lake. They multiply like bunnies, and in Cheney I think most are around 4 inches long.
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Huskyhush
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| 06 Jun 2008 08:50 AM |
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I know we are straying from the original post, but the past few years there would be perch tournaments at cheney. It was more for fun, but the object was to just catch as many perch as you can and then they get brought back to shore and they would have a big dinner from the fish that were caught. But more and more reports are saying the perch population is down enough where worms can be used for walleye. I bet it gets frustrating to loose your worm every minute or two. I know where Sedan is, used to travel through all the time when going camping at QSR, which has an awesome lake for bass and crappie. Ever want some quiet company I would be glad to make the trip.
Dominic
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tbgifted
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| 06 Jun 2008 04:14 PM |
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Dominic, I always welcome anyone that wants to fish with me, there is always room in my boat for somebody that wants to fish. I just got back from the lake with one of my Son's friends, he wanted to fish but my Son took off with one of his other friends down south to Grand Lake. His other friend came knocking on the door and was kinda down because he thought my Son and I would be heading out to fish so I told him to go grab his fishing rod and we would head out to the lake and go fishing anyway. My Son is 13 and his friends seem to line up at the door to go fishing with us. I made some new lures last night and needed some help testing them anyway so things worked out. My Wife doesn't like me fishing alone, with nerve damage in my back, my Wife seems to think my legs will quit on me and I will fall out of the boat so I don't mind taking some of these kids fishing with me. The one that fished with me today is great and I enjoy fishing with him but some of the others, I would rather use them as bait.
As for White Perch, I did not know for sure that they were in the same family as White bass and Stripers but I kinda figured they were just because of the way they look. White Bass can become a real problem, I can only imagine what something as veracious as a white bass but reproduce twice as fast would be like. I suppose it would be a great way to introduce people to fishing but if you target other species like walleye, that could become a real issue. I have never caught one but I may have to give it a shot sometime just to say that I have caught one.
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krush1967
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| 07 Jun 2008 02:01 PM |
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White perch are a problem in resovoirs because they compete for food with walleye and bass. That is why the walleye populations are way down at cheney. The state passed a new law that says if you catch one you have to kill it. Throwing it back is illegal and useing it for live bait is also illegal. They taste really good though. In cheney they were up to about 7-8 inchs and marion has some bigger than that. The take all you can tournaments reduced the populatin drastically at cheney but they say there was a good spawn so the perch will be back. If you had a pond that had nothing in it ,I think it would be a good fish for fun and food. But for now it's like zebra muscles. Spread like wildfire if they get the chance. Hey Trace, Wish you could have made it to our wichita get together. When do the flatheads start biting good in card creek? Is there ramps on the creek or do you get to it from the lake? How far up the river is the good spots? |
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tbgifted
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| 07 Jun 2008 02:52 PM |
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The flatheads in card creek are on the move now but the weather is a problem at the moment. The rain has the river up and down but not nearly as bad as it was last year. Last year the floods were a disaster and it washed out the camp ground on Card Creek. The flood also brought in so much dirt and debris that it blocked access to the lake. Card Creek has an excellent camp ground and a really good loading ramp. Actually, the camp ground on Card Creek is just as good or better than any on Elk City Res. A lot of people used to camp at Card Creek and then run their boats down the river onto the lake but now access to the lake is blocked because the channel into the lake is full of debris and sand. It is possible to catch big cats from the camp ground but if you take a boat up or down the river 200 yrds or more, you will get into some really good fishing. The farther you get from the camp ground, the better the fishing is because of less pressure which is common most anywhere though. There are some major log jams all the way up the river which is great for big flatheads but starting at about a mile up river, there is some really major log pile up. I have fished a lot of places for big cats in many different states and I have never been on one that has such perfect habitat for giant flatheads.
If you have never been to Card Creek, it is more of a river than a creek. Most of the Creek is 20ft deep or deeper. The creek is well known for not only giant flatheads but also giant crappie and giant bass. The hard part is, finding the crappie and bass. It is a very difficult creek to fish if that is what you are targeting but if you find some, they will usually be very large. Maybe they are more populated than I think because when it comes to river bass fishing, I am not very good. On lakes, I can find and catch bass all the time but I have never been good at catching bass on a river. If any of you are good at finding bass on a river, please come and teach me how to find and catch them. Just tell me when and me and my boat will be there because I would love to be able to find those big ones that reside there on a regular bases. I have pulled some 22" -24" bass from there but I only find one or two bass a day on that river even though I am sure there are a lot more that I missed.
Card Creek is a magnificent fishing spot and the next world record flathead is there, it is just a matter of time before I find it. The best fishing for flatheads is actually right now but the weather is keeping me away. As soon as the weather balances out, I plan on fishing Card Creek at least once a week if not more. Anyone that wants to is welcome to join me. Trace |
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