OK i know just dave will respond for sure he is trully knowlagable

 

i am looking for a few new rods for salmon and sturgeon

Lamiglas? http://www.lamiglas.com/prod_indiv....groupid=45

G-loomis?http://products.gloomis.com/gl/prod...9819955219

and i know price is a problem for me but quality could count for something

feel free to throw new ideas into the mix i do enjoy getting confused

i went over to Joe's sporting goods today and i believe personally the ugly stick is better for me am i wrong in this thought or is the better rod a lamiglas
Lifetime Member since 2004,

Well ogre,

Rods are a very personal thing.  They are a tool and like all tools, price for performance is important to everyone.  Sometimes you pay for the name.  I had 7 1/2' ugly sticks years ago and they performed very well for me for the fishing I was doing.  They're still in the garage.  As my fishing interests migrated to Salmon/Steelhead, so did my tools.  As you know, you can spend a ton of money gearing up for a single species.  I've tried many Mfg's rods, with some outperfoming others.  Don't be fooled though, all rods can and will break.  I've made several trips to Loomis with broken rods, have sent in others to St. Croix.  I currently have one Lamiglass that needs  to be returned.  Many of the rods Joes carries, they will just give you a new one if it breaks.  But some Mfgs require you to send them in for evaluation of failure.  Liftime garranties are nice, but still limited.  You'll pay $20-$50 for replacements, but that is far better than the original price.  What you'll find with the "high end" rods is ease of use.  They are typically lighter which is nice if your days involve a lot of casting.  If you're putting it in a rod older and casting every once in a while, heavier rods should not matter.  We're only talking ounces.  As long as you have a rod to match the target species, any of the names will get the job done.  And you can land bigger fish with lighter rods and lines if you have a good reel with a good drag system. 

My personal preferences these days:

Salmon I use Lamiglass.  They build a nice product for our big fish here.  I mostly bobber fish for Salmon and use several of their models rated for 12-25# line in 8 1/2' length.

Steelhead I use St Croix Avid series rods in 9' and 9 1/2' rated 4-12# line.  My favorite is the 9', as it has just a little more backbone.  They are all pretty light for some of the hot fish, but that is part of the challenge.

I don't fish for Sturgeon so I won't go into it.

I have used many of the reel mfgs out there these days.  I have matched all of my spinning rods (which I primarily use) with Shimano Symetre reels.  The 2500 model on my Steelhead rods and the 4000 model on my Salmon rods.  These are not the most expensive reel, but they sure are nice.  They make for a very nice balanced setup(key to comfortable fishing) and they have a great drag system.  I have used my sons Stradic and am not sure they are that much better to justify the higher price.  There is a noticable jump in performance between the Sedona and Symtre however.

Hope this helps some.

 

JustDave

Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service

I love to fish and i spend all sorts of money on lures and other devices to catch the fish i just never can justify the $100 plus cost of a rod when i have been using other types to catch fish . i guess i need a fishermans councler . is this wrong do you truley need a more expensive rod to catch more fish or just need the passion to do it
Lifetime Member since 2004,

Status thing I guess. 

"I own a Sage fly rod and it cost me $900",one fly fiaherman said to another.

His partner asked, "why do I catch more and bigger fish than you?"

He replied, "That may be so, but my fish are of better quality."

"How do you figure that?"

"Just like steak, the more it cost, the better the cut!"

As long as you're on the water, catching fish, and not losing a bunch because your of your rod, I think you've answered your own question.  If you're happy with what you have, you already have your rod of choice.  Don't pay for a fishing shrink when you have a whole BB available.  : )

JustDave

Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service

a buddy of mine up the road just got his passed his guide requirments and is just waiting for the coast guard to issue his card . but he is looking to lamiglas as a sponcer indorser . he keeps telling me he will get half off so I  should just wait .

I do however like my ugly sticks i have pulled in 50 + inch sturgeon . on my Okuma Fina i have landed Salmon . i dont know what G-loomis or Lamiglas fish taste like but the ones i Have taste good to me

 

Also what does it take to use or have the NW NAFC Logo

Lifetime Member since 2004,

Lami fish taste pretty good : ).  Guide discounts are nice  I have that kind of deal through St. Croix.  There are other discounts available, but the rod mfg have the biggest percentages.  Loomis also offers 50%.  If the link below doesn't work for you, we'll try something different.  You'll have to paste it into your profile signature.

 http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q157/JustDave_01/?action=view&current=westernfish.jpg

 

JuatDave

Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service

Hello,

If no one minds I might through my two bits in. I use ugly sticks for most salmon/steelhead fishing and have had excellent luck over the past years. I fish offshore as well as sturgeon. For my heavy fishing I use Penn solid fiberglass power sticks with roller guides and Penn senator 114 reels with 50 to 80 lb Dacron line. The heavy rods have served very well for landing halibut, deep rock fish, and sturgeon. Like Dave stated so well, fishing rods are greatly personal preference as well as finding what works for your fishing style. I try to purchase multiuse tools so to speak. However the old saying of the right tool for the right job is very true.

-          Regards,

Bill

NAFC life member since 1992, NAHC life member since 2005, lifetime Oregon resident. Central Oregon region.

i dont mind anybodys imput .

i need to fish more . dont care if i catch them i just want to fish i have 40 or so rods for different types of fishing . i can catch all fish under 100lbs with no fear so i will not complain about rods and if someone wants me to have a different rod they should purchase one for me as a gift 

 

I also recieved an invatation in the mail yesterday for registration into the Sturgeon derby but i am waiting on my new to me boat . cant get it till the dealer get my old one sold first dangit dangit . and people are wondering why i am getting the fishing pox virus . all these fish and i am landlocked

 

Lifetime Member since 2004,

Bank it buddy.  It will cure what ails ya.

JustDave

Life Member Since '94, 1st Member of the NAFC Western Fishers, Proud User of St. Croix, Lamiglass, Shimano, Fishcraft, Mercury, Jabber Knuckles, Fishing With the Boys Guide Service

was thinking about meldrum bar but i still need my license and i will be alowed to get that after the boat sells they hope to have it sold at the sportsman show that starts 2-6-08 . one can only pray and us fisherman are good at that
Lifetime Member since 2004,

I broke one of my Lamiglass Rods last summer when I leaned over the motor to raise it up. It was a lite action Trout rod that I had only used a couple of months & I was sick about it. Since it was so new I stopped by the factory in Woodland to see if it could be repaired, but no luck.

They just gave me a new one on the spot, no questions! They really treat you right & their rods are great!