how do i get rid of gar
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smiller2User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:25 smiller2
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22 Jun 2010 09:18 PM
    we got gars in my freinds pond and there eating our live bait and our fish whats the fastest and easy way to get rid of them
    grad year 2013
    diojisdadUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1794 diojisdad
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    23 Jun 2010 06:10 AM
    Catch them. Why get rid of them? Once to hook into one you will not want to "get rid of them". Also are you sure they are Gar and not turtles?
    " It doesn't matter if the horse is blind, Just load the cart anyway!!" (John Madden) (NAFC TLM), (NAHC TLM), (NRA) FRED FROM MARYLAND
    domkaajUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:140 domkaaj
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    23 Jun 2010 10:28 AM
    bow and fishing arrow rig. (where legal of course)
    UncleTomJigsUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:449 UncleTomJigs
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    24 Jun 2010 02:54 PM
    I was striper fishing in a river down in Florida and wasn't catching much of anything.  Decided to tie on a buck tail jig I had made a few weeks before.  Of all colors, it had a pink butter bean shaped head about 3/4 ounce with 5/0 hook and white hair.  Before I could get it in the water, gars were eating them up--caught one about six feet but I couldn't figure how to get it out of his mouth.  Finally, I just cut the line.  Did not catch any stripers but had a ball with those big gars.  As they say:  "Never have known a bad day fishing!"  Uncle Tom  Take a kid young or old fishing!
    I built my own lure company as a young man--thus the name UncleTomsJigs. It grew so well I decided to give it up and go fishing with family, friends and especially grand children. I became disabled as a United Methodist Pastor IN 2002 and retired here in Coastal Georgia on a 10 acre lake where I continue to fish despite my disabilities. My wonderful wife and I enjoy fishing together. God has blessed us in so many ways and we pray the same for you. I am excited about having so many new friends all over this great country.
    alandersUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:56 alanders
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    25 Jun 2010 04:10 PM
    some people, like myself dont want ugly gar eating up all the pretty bass. im not saying that in a mean tone or anything, its just a common oppinion held.

    Id rather catch a pretty ass bass than a dinosuar looking fish i dont know why?
    brownboys31User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:1 brownboys31
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    09 Jul 2010 11:04 AM
    my question when people ask why I like to catch "trash" fish is this."Do you like to have fun while fishing?". Unless you are specifically targeting something to eat,just roll with it and enjoy catching them. I enjoy catching bass, trout, walleyes, and other "sportfish", but day in and day out I would rather catch BIG fish. This has included carp over 20 lbs., gar over 40, bowfin to 15..etc...Also, most fish that are considered non-gamefish are much more accessible and in most cases easier to catch. Don't look a gift horse or in this case a gift fish in the mouth...happy fishing and good luck
    northbass24User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:40 northbass24
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    12 Jul 2010 12:29 PM
    Like any pond gar will serve a purpose as long as there is a balance between them and other fish in the pond. if a pond was to be stocked with bass only in a short amount of time you would be catching a bunch of stunted fish.a good pond will have a good balance of predator and prey, the gar a part of the natural process they will eat bass fry and other fry in turn if the are spawning their fry will be eaten.i would suggest leaving them alone for the time being and trying to get in touch with a fisheries agent and see if they can help you out or at least give ya some tips.
    SHUT UP AND FISH
    fisherfanaticUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1493 fisherfanatic
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    13 Jul 2010 12:37 PM
    Don't.
    TIGHT LINES!
    "I may be physically at my computer right now, but my mind has gone fishing!" --Avid angler from MI and member since 2009--
    UncleTomJigsUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:449 UncleTomJigs
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    25 Jul 2010 08:36 PM
    I have never seen a gar in my lake but two days after I read this original past  my grand daughter were fishing late one afternoon for blue gills and catfish and what was the first thing she caught--that's right one of those prehistoric creatures.  She loves "critters" of all kind and I think she got more out of it than anyone possibly could.  My daughter who will be teaching oceanography this fall insisted on freezing it for her class.  Can you imagine what the guys will be saying when they open my freezer and on top is "Gary the gar"--thank goodness I convinced her the alligator snapping turtle was on the endangered species list and she let it go.  Help!!  Uncle Tom
    I built my own lure company as a young man--thus the name UncleTomsJigs. It grew so well I decided to give it up and go fishing with family, friends and especially grand children. I became disabled as a United Methodist Pastor IN 2002 and retired here in Coastal Georgia on a 10 acre lake where I continue to fish despite my disabilities. My wonderful wife and I enjoy fishing together. God has blessed us in so many ways and we pray the same for you. I am excited about having so many new friends all over this great country.
    fisherfanaticUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1493 fisherfanatic
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    26 Jul 2010 09:25 AM
    UncleTomJigs, you could always get her to keep it in a tank. Longnose Gar are pretty easy to take care of. Just feed them live minnows.
    TIGHT LINES!
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    tshandsUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:137 tshands
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    04 Aug 2010 04:01 PM
    BOWFISHING!!!!! TRY IT
    TJ
    UncleTomJigsUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:449 UncleTomJigs
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    04 Aug 2010 06:17 PM
    BOW FISHING!  Sounds like a winner--probably better at night?  Since some of us don't have the strength to pull a bow any more, was wondering if you can use a cross bow?  Uncle Tom
    I built my own lure company as a young man--thus the name UncleTomsJigs. It grew so well I decided to give it up and go fishing with family, friends and especially grand children. I became disabled as a United Methodist Pastor IN 2002 and retired here in Coastal Georgia on a 10 acre lake where I continue to fish despite my disabilities. My wonderful wife and I enjoy fishing together. God has blessed us in so many ways and we pray the same for you. I am excited about having so many new friends all over this great country.
    puploweUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:11 puplowe
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    09 Aug 2010 08:12 AM
    Gar can be alot of fun to catch. I have been catching them for about a year in the same area i catch bass. they havnt seemed to effect the bass much. Long needlenose pliers usually work good on the hooks
    A bad day fishing beats a good day at work.
    tshandsUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:137 tshands
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    11 Aug 2010 01:13 PM
    never tested the crossbow fishing way before. but if you get into a school of big gar, your back will start hurting from bending down to redraw your bow. it happens with a compound bow to but just hurts your arm after a while.
    TJ
    bpetersenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1254 bpetersen
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    12 Aug 2010 12:25 PM
    Posted By multispecies101 on 26 Jul 2010 10:25 AM
    UncleTomJigs, you could always get her to keep it in a tank. Longnose Gar are pretty easy to take care of. Just feed them live minnows.
    TIGHT LINES!

    Done this before. I fed one guppies and goldfish. of course it was only about 18" long. they are fun to watch eat. They recoil back like a snake and then let loose and poof the feeder is gone and the gar has a little bulge in its belly. I can see how fun a big one would be to catch.

    Brian

    Fishing: The art of loitering in or near a body of water. Utah fisherman. lifer since 99
    bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
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    12 Aug 2010 07:34 PM
    I've posted the best gar lure before, but I'll do it again. Take a long shank 1/0 hook and whip tie a piece of 4" white nylon rope to the shank by the eye. Apply varnish to the tie to seal it. After varnish dries, unravel  and fray the rope. Cast this as a surface or slightly subsurface lure when you sight gar or near gar habitat. The frayed rope tangles in their teeth and they can't throw the lure. Of course you don't need the hook for gar fishing, but you may also get strikes from bass or crappie while casting this lure and then you'll be glad to have the hook. Happy gar fishing.
    Phoenix Arizona ~Outdoor-Fishing~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~
    bassassasin1User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:21 bassassasin1
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    06 Oct 2010 09:11 AM

    Catching gar with a fishing pole is difficult unless you have a steel leader.
    Stringing nets across your pond will also help. However you don't want to use gill nets cause of your other fish will get caught up in them and die. Using a trap
    will also work . Gar are also easily caught on trotlines maby putting some of them out will depleat some or alot of the population. since it getting winter time some of the older and bigger gar will most likely die from cold temps.



                                       Bassassasin1

    ouachitabassanglerUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:223 ouachitabassangler
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    17 Oct 2010 03:58 PM
    State laws for netting usually don't apply to private ponds. Gill netting is the only direct control available to you. For around $40 you can purchase a 50' long nylon flag style net. Choose a mesh size smaller than capable of easily holding a big headed game fish like a bass. The gar are probably slimmer than the bass, and their bony gill cover is such that they can get snarled in a net size too small for a bass to get in. At the same time smaller fish might get into the net, but they don't roll over and over like a gar, wrapping themselves up. That's why you would want a flag style net. There's only one top line, none across the bottom of the net, so the net hangs like a curtain (flag). Each end of the top line is anchored tightly with the top of the net right at the surface where gar feed. It's ideal in still water like a pond. When you detect a gar in it pull the whole net up and unroll it, cleaning trash off as you go.

    A real delicacy is deep fat fried gar balls. I peel the skin off the back then scoop flesh out using a metal ice cream scoop. Bread and fry. The rest of the fish is quite bony, hardly worth messing with unless pressure cooking to make fish cakes (chicken style patties).
    ouachitabassanglerUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:223 ouachitabassangler
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    18 Oct 2010 12:14 PM
    So what next? Figure out the sizes of gar and the desired fish. Let's say your gar average 6" diameter, while the bass average 4". A 3" nylon flag net can stretch to twice that, 6" between mesh knots. Even if a bass can match that the outer gill structure will allow the bass to escape, or the bass will not try to pass through. It's best to avoid a mesh size that tempts a bass or other game fish to try going through. So, you select the smallest mesh that should do the job, counting on stretch.
    ouachitabassanglerUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:223 ouachitabassangler
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    19 Oct 2010 04:34 PM
    In the absence of comment I will continue. Maintaining a single gar in a private pond is not a good idea if bass production is your objective. It would be analogous to inviting a 500 pound friend to move in sharing food while your children are suffering malnutrition due to lack of food supply. The ideal is for the angler to be as close to the top of the food chain as possible. Some pond owners don't realize a family of raccoons have broken into the middle of that. Depending on pond size and natural nutrients in it, keeping a gar or two could require supplemental feeding of the pond population sooner or later. I think you indicate you prefer game fish, so work to eradicate the gar. What can't be netted should be actively caught and removed, then killed. Use a steel leader and a high-noise (sonic) shallow running minnow type lure and heavy line and rod. I find catching a gar to be more like hauling a log in, but there's a lot of splashing of water when the gar sees you. You get wet, and could receive a gash from the frantic swaying of teeth. I have never found any joy in catching gar. There's a reason they are not listed as "game" fish, but are listed as "freshwater" fish. The idea of tolerating gar in any fishery is to finish off the food chain where angers don't frequent the fishery. They eat up the swimming forage, thereby starving the bass and themselves out of a food supply. When managing for bass it is far better to manage their forage base, but that might involve having to harvest some of those bass.
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