Topwater bass fishing
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ckussowUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:2 ckussow
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26 Jun 2010 06:34 PM

    I'm a rookie at topwater and need some techniques on how to get those summer bass. I recentlly bought a heddon tiny torpedo and a rebel pop-r. Are any of these good?

    slipperybobUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1240 slipperybob
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    26 Jun 2010 08:40 PM
    That's two of the most basic top water lures already.  The third basic type would be a pencil lure that sways back and forth (walk the dog), a common one is a Zara Spook.

    Poppers merely require a twitch and pause.  Any kind of cadence or no real rythem to it.  Sometimes short twitches will work, sometimes a hard jerk to make it spit a lot of water works better.

    The torpedo lures or top water lures with props can be fish with a pull and pause technique or just basic crank it back.  Try various speeds with it, as sometimes a slow speed works, sometimes burning it really fast works better.

    The walk the dog lures requires a twitch and pause technique to make the lure sway side to side.  Just basic cranking them will make most of them come back strait.  Some lures are easier to work than others.  Some lures slide/glide a lot, while others can barely zig zag.  It all depends on equipment and line drag as well.
    bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
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    26 Jun 2010 09:55 PM
    I use all the types mentioned as well as buzz baits, however my favorite always has been a Jitterbug. Also, probably the easiest to use. Cast it out. Let it sit till the ripples dissipate. Then start a steady retrieve. The lure will make a steady gurgling sound. Pause it occasionally during the retrieve. Use black color at night. The hooks that come on Jitterbugs are terrible. Cut them off at the hook hanger. DO NOT unscrew hook hanger. Replace them with Owner Stinger #4 treble hooks using a split ring to attach hooks.Happy surface fishing.
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    THEBASSCOLLEGEUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:847 THEBASSCOLLEGE
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    27 Jun 2010 08:38 AM

    There are a lot of baits that take big largemouth bass, but to me, nothing is more fun than seeing a huge bas**** a topwater bait. The excitement that is produced when a big bass explodes on a buzzbait or a frog, is unmatched by any other technique. A lot of anglers don't believe that really big bass are taken on buzzbaits, spooks, frogs, and jerkbaits. Some of the largest bass we have caught have been on Topwater baits, be it in the rivers or lakes, just about everywhere in the country. Some of the best baits and techniques described below will help you catch big bass on topwaters, and increase the excitement factor ten fold!

    NOISY TOPWATERS

    Most of our fishing for largemouth bass is done in the Northeast, Delaware, Maryland, and New York in particular, but I have caught huge bass all over the country on noisy topwater baits. Noisy topwaters can produce some enormous explosions from big bass. It irritates them into striking, by provoking an aggressive and immediate killing response more than other lures. The key to catching big bass all over the country on topwaters is to match your tackle, bait, and presentations to different conditions. The reason I believe we catch so many big bass on topwater baits is because most people throw spinnerbaits, worms, and crankbaits. The bass learn to avoid these baits when they get larger. The topwater baits we throw haven't been used for years in some cases, and the bass aren't used to seeing them. Even in places where people throw topwaters such as poppers, they are more inclined to throw whatever topwaters they use only at certain times of the day, usually in the morning or in the late afternoon, or evening. We throw different noisy topwaters all day in different locations for some tremendous strikes.

    Almost all the bass I have caught that are over five pounds, are loners, holding on a particular piece of structure in the lake. I won't say that you never see some large bass schooling up, but it is a rare occurrence. Smallmouth bass are different though, they do school up in certain areas, and there can be many large fish all together at one time. I have had this happen all over, from New York to Missouri, but big largemouth's are generally alone. I use most topwater baits when the water temperature is sixty degrees or above, but I have caught bass on topwaters when the water temperature was in the high fifty's. Whenever I see a stump, rock, or maybe a bush, further away from other structure, I throw a topwater right to it. The best way to provoke a reaction strike from a big largemouth is to cast the bait right to the cover, not beyond it. If you cast past the target, the bass will be alert before the bait gets there. You may have seen them boil or swirl when you do this instead of smashing it. They are tentative when you work the bait up to the cover, and then they just swirl at it, or miss. To provoke a big bass into exploding on the bait you must cast right to the cover!

    Some of the best baits for this are The Zara Spook, a buzzbait, a prop bait, a minnow bait, a popper, and a Crazy Crawler. The Zara Spook is a proven bait all over the country for this. It is really effective on main lake structures like humps and points, and has always taken big smallmouth bass. I use a Rattling Zara Spook, and it really increases the effectiveness of the bait. The walk-the-dog style of the bait, along with the rattles, produces some giant bass. Big smallmouth bass will come from a great distance to smash this bait.

    The prop bait is a noisy surface bait that has to be used just right or it will spook the bass. I always use it when a front is approaching, and on stained to muddy bodies of water. It is the ultimate reaction bait, and definitely needs to be cast right to the cover, whatever it may be.

    The popper is one of my favorite baits to use in places that have a lot of grass or milfoil that is holding bass. I recently started using a popper by Viva lures, that was recommended to me by Carolina Fish and Fur. It has produced some great largemouth bass in the last few years. It is called a Bug Eye Popper. It doesn't really make as much noise as some of my other poppers, like the Pop-R, but it spits out all kinds of water. It is a fairly expensive bait, but I believe it has accounted for several big largemouth bass that I wouldn't have gotten on another bait.

    The Crazy Crawler is a bait that is similar to the Jitterbug. I use this and the buzzbait a lot at night. I also use a real big size Jitterbug that they use for Northerns or Muskies, they have never seen it here in the Northeast, and really smash it at night. The buzzbait also produces some really big bass for us here in Delaware when used at night. We have caught some bass in the seven and eight pound range on many occasions with a B&D Klacker buzz, a Yamamoto buzzbait in 5.5 inches, and a Terminator Ball Buster. This year we have been using a new buzzbait made by B & D lures, and it has worked very well so far.

    The floating minnow is another good bait in post spawn, when big bass are around some shallow cover but they aren't particularly aggressive yet. I use baits with rattles for this also. I've caught a lot of big bass on it in prespawn also, on really warm days early in the year, it produces well. I just cast it to the structure, let it sit, twitch it one time, and they usually just suck it in!

    The other bait that a lot of anglers forget about is the Bass Rat by Southern Lures, a Sumo frog, and the Tournament Frog by Snag Proof. I insert rattles in these baits also, and they produce tremendous strikes through the pads and other vegetation in bodies of water from small ponds here in Delaware to bigger bodies of water like Lake Champlain in New York. I use a 7 foot, S-Glass St.Croix rod for them, with Spiderline Super Mono, in seventeen pound test, or I use twenty-eight pound test Fusion. I fish the lighter baits with a spinning rod such as a G.Loomis, in 6 1/2 foot lengths, with twelve pound test P-Line. I use all the rods in a medium heavy to heavy action for these baits. This year we are using some rods made by Kistler, and are excited about them. They are very well made and have a variety of actions that we need for these situations here in the northeast.

    LOCATIONS"

    Although most of our really big bass have come from shallow water, they were always in a place that was near deep water, where one or more grasses came together, and near the main creek channel. They always had some kind of deep water escape route nearby. I feel that in larger bodies of water the big bass spend much of their time in deeper water, and just move in out of the shallows as the opportunities arise, when hunting for food. As I mentioned previously, most anglers use these baits at sunrise or sunset, but I use them all times of the day. Big bass are always on the shady side of cover once the sun rises. They can be enticed into striking a buzzbait or other topwater, at all times of the day when presented properly. Bigger bass feed more frequently due to their body size, and when they do feed, they want a bigger meal if at all possible. They have to expend a great deal of energy to catch their prey, and want to make sure the size is sufficient to meet their needs. I grew up fishing small ponds and lakes here in the Northeast. This is a great place to learn how to catch big bass and practice the techniques you need to catch them in larger bodies of water. These small ponds and lakes have plenty of big fish left in them, you just have to present the right baits at the right time.

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    slipperybobUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1240 slipperybob
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    27 Jun 2010 09:36 AM

    That's the one thing about spooking bass.  Often times people start working a topwater lure too soon.  Sometimes you have to let it sit there until the intitial ripples dissappears.

    UncleTomJigsUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:449 UncleTomJigs
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    27 Jun 2010 09:58 AM
    Great note Northeastbass.  One of  the most informative forum notes I have read.  I'd give it a big A+!  Most of your notes are good but this is the best have read.  Looking forward to getting to know you better.  I got goose bumps on my neck when you were describing those top water explosions.  I could see the spray as I read it.  I also enjoy it when those big bass just sneak up and suck it in without much noise--same thing when a big pan fish sucks in a fly or when one of those big boys just pops his lips at it when you lift lure out of water.  That will give you a rush as well.  You make it a joy to be a part of this club.  Good luck and good fishing!  Uncle Tom
    I built my own lure company as a young man--thus the name UncleTomsJigs. It grew so well I decided to give it up and go fishing with family, friends and especially grand children. I became disabled as a United Methodist Pastor IN 2002 and retired here in Coastal Georgia on a 10 acre lake where I continue to fish despite my disabilities. My wonderful wife and I enjoy fishing together. God has blessed us in so many ways and we pray the same for you. I am excited about having so many new friends all over this great country.
    THEBASSCOLLEGEUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:847 THEBASSCOLLEGE
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    27 Jun 2010 02:42 PM
    Thanks I do have some tips that are pretty good. lol Thanks again. Steve
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    THEBASSCOLLEGEUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:847 THEBASSCOLLEGE
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    27 Jun 2010 04:31 PM


    June 27, 2010 at 6:21 PM
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    glgallo2User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:24 glgallo2
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    27 Jun 2010 04:44 PM
    That is so awesome to see that! Looks like a lot of happy fishermen. Wish I could have been there. I was born and raised in Delaware until I was 19. Best catfish and carp fishing I've ever done. Hope u guys had fun.
    Glenn, from the Sunshine State
    THEBASSCOLLEGEUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:847 THEBASSCOLLEGE
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    28 Jun 2010 08:18 AM
    They are all the same person me. lol
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    davesett2000User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2212 davesett2000
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    03 Jul 2010 09:53 PM
    Posted By UncleTomJigs on 27 Jun 2010 10:58 AM
    Great note Northeastbass.  One of  the most informative forum notes I have read.  I'd give it a big A+!  Most of your notes are good but this is the best have read.  Looking forward to getting to know you better.  I got goose bumps on my neck when you were describing those top water explosions.  I could see the spray as I read it.  I also enjoy it when those big bass just sneak up and suck it in without much noise--same thing when a big pan fish sucks in a fly or when one of those big boys just pops his lips at it when you lift lure out of water.  That will give you a rush as well.  You make it a joy to be a part of this club.  Good luck and good fishing!  Uncle Tom


    I agree...this is one of the best articles Steve has put out on here for sure.

    I totally agree with his thoughts on lures that aren't commonly used. He left out names like Heddon Lucky 13, Bass-Oreno and many others.

    There's a couple of topics on here about using "older" style of baits...and a simple thing I will point out....is that if lures like Hula Poppers, Jitterbugs....Pop-R's...Lucky 13's etc...wasn't STILL catching fish.....they would have been discontinued LONG ago.

    Something else I will point out. Steve mentions a "change" in the TYPE of grass. This is an "edge"....which we have discussed on here in several different topics.

    MAYBE we should do a Topic on edges in Members Tips....your thoughts?

    JMHO
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    THEBASSCOLLEGEUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:847 THEBASSCOLLEGE
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    04 Jul 2010 05:33 PM
    Go for it Dave I'll add something too.
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    foxmanUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:155 foxman
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    05 Jul 2010 06:11 AM
    northeast bass What happened to N.J. its in the north east between del. and ny and a lot off delaware boats fish in the salem canal in nj.
    Jim life member
    THEBASSCOLLEGEUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:847 THEBASSCOLLEGE
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    05 Jul 2010 10:27 AM
    Nothing except you have to drive for 3 hours from Kent or Sussex county to the De Mem Bridge then drive 45 minutes to 3 hours again in NJ unless you are going to take a Ferry across from Lewes for 60.00 each way. lol But anyway, I have hundreds of tips and tactics as well as videos for New Jersey at my site. Tight lines, Steve
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    ckussowUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:2 ckussow
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    05 Jul 2010 02:22 PM
    I fish in Wisconsin and I fished the two topwaters that i got. My tiny torpedo got stuck up in the tree. My popper didnt catch anything but had a couple strikes even from bluegill. I always see them chase it. The first lake i went to didnt have that many bass in it. The second lake I didnt fish in any cover exept in open water with my Pop-R.
    mcopeland1User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:115 mcopeland1
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    05 Jul 2010 02:50 PM
    Try heddon Jitterbugs I have real good luck with them in the river I fish here especially after dark on a warm humid night. mcopeland
    UncleTomJigsUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:449 UncleTomJigs
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    05 Jul 2010 05:46 PM
    Read your post and it reminded me of how much I use to fish that tiny torpedo.  What color was working for you?  Most of mine has been on a dark green and yellow--kind of a bullfrog color.  Could understand how tough it is to lose your favorite color or only one.  I lost my favorite Bomber Long A a couple of weeks back to a huge bass.  It was my fault I had it to the boat and it made a run under the boat as I reached for dip net and I caught my line under a rod holder and it snapped like a thread--usually have my drag set much lighter but I guess that's why they call it fishing not catching!  Good luck next time out!  Uncle Tom Luv that topwater explosion!
    I built my own lure company as a young man--thus the name UncleTomsJigs. It grew so well I decided to give it up and go fishing with family, friends and especially grand children. I became disabled as a United Methodist Pastor IN 2002 and retired here in Coastal Georgia on a 10 acre lake where I continue to fish despite my disabilities. My wonderful wife and I enjoy fishing together. God has blessed us in so many ways and we pray the same for you. I am excited about having so many new friends all over this great country.
    ouachitabassanglerUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:223 ouachitabassangler
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    24 Jul 2010 09:46 AM
    Yes, that's a very good article Steve.

    Look for something special, not over-fished, maybe silly looking. Don't get in a rut like most bass anglers. On my home lake in central Arkansas there are lots of overlooked topwater sites good 24 hours a day. Here's one example to get you thinking about your home lake.

    There are hundreds of mid-lake underwater humps, many that would be islands if the pool level were dropped enough. The ones for topwater fishing are down to as much as 15 feet deep.  Hydrilla weeds are finally taking them over, so many of them are marked by a floating mat with calm water inside even when the lake is choppy. The humps that have sharp dropoffs are my favorite, many sheared cliffs for roads before the valley was flooded. Big bass love to back up against the humps and under the shade of the hydrilla, waiting for shad to swim by. During the day shad circle those humps, there being plots of plankton to feed on there. Fish with sun in your face so you don't cast a shadow on the side of the hump. My bait of first choice is a Super Zara Spook cast to the edge of the weeds. At that point the bait is maybe 5 to 30 feet above bottom, but maybe 10 feet from the side or top edge of the hump. One good twitch followed by a long pause is enough to catch the attention of a bass below. One more hard twitch often gets a strike. I work the bait so as never to move it too far away from that strike zone. Even if the bait is pulled under I wait for the line to load up before setting one of those treble hooks.

    But nowadays I suffer skin cancers from sunlight, so fish between sun hours, either early morning or late night in those same places while most anglers pound the worn-out shoreline day or night. I learned in daylight what I need to know at night. Wherever you are no doubt there is some "unthinkable" place perfect for topwater fishing away from the crowd.

    Jim
    UncleTomJigsUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:449 UncleTomJigs
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    24 Jul 2010 10:18 AM
    Great job Ouachitabass!   That's what NAFC is all about along with some wonderful opportunities to meet other anglers.
    Too often, we take for granted that everyone knows all those tips that we sleep on--maybe a post along the idea of sharing what worked and what didn't work for us.  I know for certain that:  the longer I fish the more I realize I don't know about certain aspects of fishing or people who do fish.  Keep those little tips coming!  I really look forward to them!  Uncle Tom
    I built my own lure company as a young man--thus the name UncleTomsJigs. It grew so well I decided to give it up and go fishing with family, friends and especially grand children. I became disabled as a United Methodist Pastor IN 2002 and retired here in Coastal Georgia on a 10 acre lake where I continue to fish despite my disabilities. My wonderful wife and I enjoy fishing together. God has blessed us in so many ways and we pray the same for you. I am excited about having so many new friends all over this great country.
    ouachitabassanglerUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:223 ouachitabassangler
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    25 Jul 2010 07:05 PM
    Any chance I get to actually talk fishing makes me happy. We used to carry on long themes here like Davesett is doing for "edges", and I'm glad to see him willing to invest the time again. I was very active here, but when they erased thousands of posts, rolling us all back to 0, I dropped out.

    Jim
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