Ditto. Ffish, seemingly, something has reared it`s ugly head and although I personally think it has the same odor GLSM had this summer, I must decline your offer to join you and the others for what am sure would have been an enjoyable outing at Indian Lake. Won`t print what am thinking `bout what I get to do INSTEAD...

Lowell, you have me a little confused. Is it something about the tournament that you don't want to join us or something that has come up that you have to change plans that day.

Forgive any confusion, my fault. And wasn`t fully aware of exactly what the heck was going on here. My significant other`s grandmother was supposed to go to see a doctor Friday, no big deal. The doc wanted to admit her for the "flu" or something, she wasn`t willing.  Sat night she had extreme difficulty breathing and went by squad to the hospital, which we wasn`t aware of, at first. She was in bad shape as it turned out, and the family came and stayed most of the night into early AM, Chris and I stayed most of today . Forgive me, wasn`t that didn`t want to be there, but she was looking badly. She`s a wonderful older lady and I admit like her alot. There will be other opportunities, and still looking forward to meeting you sir.

Sounds like you all have alot going on down there. I know all to well about what that hospital stuff is all about. I have a daughter with a rare metabolic disease and have spent way way to many nights trying to get a few winks at the hospital. We have a prayer request thread on the Ohio BB. You might say something there and get her on our prayer list. We will miss not getting to fish with you next Saturday. If things change and she gets out of the hosptal by then you are still most welcome to join us. I pray that all turns out well for her.

Just got back from hospital, FFish, she`s doing ALOT better than she was. Hopefully she will be home Thurs evening. Fogive me if came across as a jerk. Didn`t realise she origionally went to hospital in a squad. I do like Grandma alot, just honestly didn`t know how bad off she was, but neither did Chris. And for the record, without seeming to be a cad, would`ve rather gone up and enjoyed the wkend with you guys. Chris seemed to look forward to it. There will be another time soon, God willing. (You DO icefish, don`t you?)

Glad to hear she is doing better. I never thought that you were being a jerk. I just wasn't sure what you were talking about at first. Yes I do Ice fish. I have a one man shanty, a velixar flasher and lots of warm clothes. I enjoy fishing the hard water. Well I know you have a lot going on, but if time permits you are welocme to come to the fish friday Saturday afternoon. If not I will eat a couple fillets for you. LOL!!!

When she gets out, we are taking a turn staying with her to make sure she`s back to normal, as far as know. As said, there will be another time. As far as the ice fishing, cant wait, have 651 reasons to go this winter. And appreciate the offer to eat a couple fillets for me, YOU ARE ALRIGHT!

Does CJ Brown freeze up good and solid. One of our members from down in Dayton that goes by River memtioned that the winter has to be really cold for awhile for it to freeze up good and safe.

Varies. Last yr there was 14", 6-7 yrs ago it barely got skim ice along the edges. However, if it don`t have 6" of smooth clear ("dark") ice, personally won`t go out on it. And forgive my " old lady" attitude, but will ALWAYS take a 100` rope and "cat`s claws", just in case. Fell thru the ice once,  it WILL cure you of EVER willingly risking doing THAT again (assuming you survive)!  But that in mind, have had some very good days doing it. #9E and F, 11C*, 12*, 15A*, 16*, and 18C* and D* are usually good spots.

When winter gets here I will look for your ice reports. Once the ice is safe I will make a point to come down and do some ice fishing with you. it is fun to fish new water once in awhile. I have fished CJ Brown from a boat before, but not on the ice.

Would be honored, Ffish. Can`t guarentee results, of course, but certainly have done well on those spots in the past W/O cover; last yr did VERY well on 4 of them, but cover wasn`t a yr old yet...results this winter should be interesting to say the least...

Nothing is ever guarnteed when it comes to fishing. That why it's called fishing. I will enjoy it no matter what. If I get a nice mess to clean that just makes it better. I will be looking forward to it. I hear this winter is to be a cold one. So maybe there will be some good ice.

Still hoping to sink the last 50+ attractors before ice up, if we can, shouldn`t HURT our chances any, although won`t guarentee no snags on them...

You guys will pretty much have the bottom of the lake covered soon. It will be like fishing a big ole reef.LOL!!! It is good that CJ has a group like yours dedicated to improving the fsihing there.

Thank you for the encouraging words, sir. To put our effort in perspective, Debra Walters from ODNR District #5 has told us it would take 30,000+ to significantly change the fishing in CJ, and was quoted as saying "realistically, it`s a drop in the bucket." She said that in general overall conditions they would not have a significant effect, considering the size of the lake, which, hate to admit it, she`s probably correct. On the other hand, she DID say that depending on WHERE they were deployed that they could dramatically effect some locations, that some species will surely get a much greater use of them than others, both seasonally and/ or in general. Perfect example #10, between the outlet Tower and the main Beach, and 600` from the best walleye netting area, towards the Tower. The WHOLE project was origionally a TROJAN HORSE to get that 1 spot done, and here`s why; take 2 identical walleye spawning areas, 1 with cover and none on the other. Assuming good weather, a female walleye ready to spawn will spend 4-6 hours on a bare spawning area and head back out, done for the yr. On that same area WITH cover what happens is at iceout male yellow perch show up early and "stake out" territories and vigorously defend them. Male walleyes show up, and finding food, tend to gather earlier and in greater numbers. Then the prespawn females arrive, and finding abundant prey, tend to spend upwards of 4-6 days in that area, before actually spawning. If a net is present that means she is many more times more likely to end up in that same net as 1 on a spawning site with no cover. Finally, female yellow perch show up and spawn. Also, 80% of what the walleye in CJ eat from mid January on untill they spawn is yellow perch, more perch = more and bigger female walleye in that net assuming good weather. 2008 that area produced 480 walleye. 2009 - 471.  2010- 883, and 96 were over 10lbs. Coincidence? We will see come this Spring.  The other areas was simply additional spawning cover for yellow perch, who`s overall numbers were gradually declining over the last 10 yrs. Realistically, we are running out of steam (and volunteers), we probably are not going to get 1,000 in, but we honestly did not expect to get 700 in, either. All that effort for 1 target... was it worth it? Time will tell....but just between you and me, would have rather we got a "drop and 1/2" in...

Sounds interesting. I hope all you efforts will be fruitful down the road. The perch population may go down as the walleye's go up, as they are more fish eating on them. This will interesting to follow over thenext few years.

Shouldn`t hurt the crappie fishing come this spring. #16 (the handicap fishing platform) did VERY well  this yr.

Not to change the subject, but several websites have comments that apparently the lack of rain and higher than normal temperatures have indeed caused yet another surge in the algea bloom on GLSM, though luckily this late in the season it (hopefully) won`t last too much longer. Come Spring though...no OVERLORD candidates are readily apparent just yet, or atleast no one throwing their hat into the public ring openly. With the elections coming up have trouble believing not 1 candidate LOCALLY is running on a platform of just fixing the lake; with the economic implications for the next several yrs of "no use" this is puzzling and almost disturbing. Ironically, have done some research on other admittedly smaller projects that sold the dredged muck as fertilizer to local farmers to help pay for the effort, a couple had to limit the amount each farmer was ALLOWED to buy due to accusations of favorism and "good ole boy" politics. Wouldn`t that be a unique problem to have, as big as GLSM is doubt there would be any shortage. Mark my words, SOMEONE locally will get rich dredging the lake and SELLING the crap AND become a local HERO...and the alum sprayer will have to quietly take his paultry 6 mill and go somewhere else...

We were talking at work yesterday about the alum process and that it was like putting a couple bandaids on someone that had hundreds of cuts. It is just a waste. I have not heard anything about another algea bloom. The water temps have dropped alot, so that would surprize me that it did. The guys were talking about duck hunting on the lake and I said I would not let my dog in that water. They said the state cleared it for them to get into the water. So who know what is true in the rumor mill.

Don`t believe it`s gotten nearly as bad as this summer was, simply that apparently was enough to be noticeable. Must confess, was only up to the area twice this last yr, and only saw the lake once; but the "aroma"in the area said it all. Forgive the 2cnd hand report. Still, hope someone has the inginuity and guts to start what MUST be done, and hopefully SOON...otherwise, pass out the clothes pins for spring...