Green Sunfish
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fisherfanaticUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1491 fisherfanatic
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05 Sep 2010 04:45 PM
Posted By slipperybob on 05 Sep 2010 04:04 PM
Green Sunfish are extremely weed and structure orientated fish. They simply don't cruise around. They merely just sit there and dart out to eat and dart back into their hiding spot. They really don't provide any competition for Bluegill or Baby Bass. Bluegill and Baby Bass have a totally different method for foraging. You usually find them in small schools and they tend to do more roaming around in the more open water next to the weeds. It's a definitive boundary between the majority of the species prefered habitat and foraging methods. If there was food swimming around the bluegills and baby bass will get first dibs on it. The green sunfish needs the larger mouth to sneak in afterwards to steal whatever scraps are left.


Read this, slipperybob:  
http://ohioline.osu.edu/a-fact/0010.html

Pay attention to the part about "Not Recomended" fish to stock.  I hope this clears things up!
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slipperybobUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1240 slipperybob
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05 Sep 2010 09:08 PM

By far the most important fact is regarding fresh pond stocking of fingerlings/fries.  While I appreciate the opposing fact, but about the only thing that clears up is a narrow ecosystem of pond stocking.  A pond in Ohio does not reflect a pond elsewhere.  If a lake is such that has abundant shallowness of weed and structure suitable for the Green Sunfish, then yes they will out compete your brood of Bluegill and Baby Bass.  If the lake has a deep water ecosystem that supports the movement of Bluegill and Bass into deep water or openwater during the warmer summer months where Green Sunfish don't move into.  Then there is a clear separation of foraging.  Thus the Green Sunfish cannot compete for that food source, else they being small will become food for the larger predators of the more open water variety.  Furthermore the reason why some panfish move out to openwater is to avoid predation by the lake's top predator.  Those Green Sunfish are food.

I've heard many people complain about Green Sunfish outcompeteing other species, but those people merely don't know about openwater fishing for panfish out in the middle of the lake, nor are they aware of finding Bass schooling in deep water either structure oriented or roaming the expanse after open water forage species.  Even from shorefishing, if I'm catching Green Sunfish in the shallows and want to catch something else, I go straight to the open water and many times I find openwater Bluegills or Pumpkinseeds.  Never a Green Sunfish out there.  If they're out there, those Bluegills or Pumpkinseeds are getting first dibs, long before I can retrieve my lure close enough to shoreline structures or weeds for any Green Sunfish.

fisherfanaticUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1491 fisherfanatic
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05 Sep 2010 09:15 PM
Thanks for the info, slipperybob.  I did not take that part into consideration.
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dbarnett1User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:80 dbarnett1
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16 Nov 2010 03:29 PM
I love catching green sunfish and all other panfish. I clean and pressure can them in mason jars. The bones melt and they can be used just as you would canned salmon. The taste is wonderful.
Warning: In the event of the "Rapture" my boat will be Un-manned.
bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
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16 Nov 2010 06:12 PM
I catch green sunfish for flathead cat bait. I have found a terrific bait to catch them. Buy some frozen squid at an Asian supermarket. Cut off a section of the squid head so you have two tentacles joined together. Hook it up so the tentacles trail in the water when retrieved. The action is awesome and irresistable to greenies. They attack like kamakazees. And the squid is very tough and difficult for the greenies to steal. I usually catch a livewell full with just one or two squid heads.
This bait works equally well for any sunfish species.
A whole sqiud head used as a trailer behind a jig will slay bass. Or just retrieve the squid head on a wire weedguard hook. Killer!
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slipperybobUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1240 slipperybob
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17 Nov 2010 12:07 AM
...and when you're not quite done with the squid head, you use it for catfish bait.
mr billUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1903 mr bill
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17 Nov 2010 05:03 PM
.sounds like fun
bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
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19 Nov 2010 07:12 PM
Posted By slipperybob on 17 Nov 2010 01:07 AM
...and when you're not quite done with the squid head, you use it for catfish bait.


Actually, I use the heads for sunfish, bass, and stripers, and use the rest ot the squid body for channel cat bait. Caught my pb channel last February on a whole squid body.
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