NEW Top Water Frog Lure HELP???
Last Post 02 Oct 2010 09:43 PM by BulBob. 9 Replies.
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BulBobUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:9 BulBob
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01 Oct 2010 09:07 PM
    Do you fish with frog lures?

    I am invented planing fishing floats with directional control i.e. BulletBober and DualFin and am working on expanding the product line to include lures directional control.  What are the best colors for a frog?  I haven't ever used topwater frog lures but I have used red and white Jitter Bugs and done well. It can only have 2 different colors swirled, striped or bloched into the mold.  I want to make 3 different color schemes, each with 2 colors.  Might paint the eyes???  The Frog will be a soft foam yet heavy enough to cast.  The double hook will be placed in the mold before pouring the foam.  The hook points will touch the the top and bottom of the keels to be weedless.




    Any thoughts from guys that use frog lures would be appriciated.

    Paul Lieb
    www.bulletbobber.com
    www.dualfin.com
    jtaylor23User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:518 jtaylor23
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    01 Oct 2010 09:14 PM
    I have done good with, green with black swirlles also green with yellow... hope this helps ....JOHN
    jtaylor23User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:518 jtaylor23
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    01 Oct 2010 09:20 PM
    Also the frogs look good...Is this something you've been doing for awile or just getting started???
    BulBobUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:9 BulBob
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    02 Oct 2010 05:39 AM
    Just getting started with a local foam molder and should have some prototypes in a couple weeks.
    I will test them to establish the hook location and then the mold will be machined to hold the hook.

    Green and black for one and green and yellow for another. What about red and white?
    Red and white aren't frog colors but many well know lures are red and white and work great.
    It needs to catch fish not just fisherman. Green and orange are my favorite soft lure colors.

    Here is something else I could use some help with.
    Need a name for it that hints at what it does, will be easy to remember and one the domain name is available.
    I called my float with directiional control the BulletBobber because it shoots to the left or right and looks a little like a bullet.
    Could call it the BulletFrog or FrogFins like the DualFin because it has fins that make it plane. FrogIt is already taken...
    skewlUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1006 skewl
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    02 Oct 2010 10:45 AM
    I would recommend putting a couple slots where the hook points would go, as this would probably help with hooksets. Also, have you given any thought to the idea of putting a cup on the front of the frog to give it more of a popping motion? Just throwing that out there. You could maybe even put a small weight in the bottom of the lure so that it lands right-side up and it is a bit easier to cast. I think FrogFins would be a good name, kinda catchy and uses alliteration.
    jtaylor23User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:518 jtaylor23
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    02 Oct 2010 12:04 PM
    Skewl has some good points about the weight on bottm so it lands right side up...also frogfins sounds good or how about toadmaster??? You are right about red and white colors would not hurt to try it out...GOOD LUCK JOHN
    BulBobUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:9 BulBob
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    02 Oct 2010 03:52 PM
    I like Skewl's idea about slits in the fins for easier hook sets but not the cup because it would mess up the planing action.
    As far as making a noise...when you give it a little tug to flip direction it makes a little popping noise.
    Here are some diagrams I made for the BulletBobber and things the frog can do.



    Here is a link to the BulletBobber Video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFdQLB3VQU4


    skewlUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1006 skewl
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    02 Oct 2010 06:02 PM
    Wow, that is one heck of a product. And I love the line, "Its is nonstop action and more fun than a Play Station or X Box". LOL so true. I'm wondering how it would make a bait dive, though. Also, would some strips of rubber at the back for legs mess up the planing action on the frog too? Or maybe an idea to tinker with would be legs that fold into the body during the cast and deploy when the lure hits that water, if that's possible. I know that aerodynamics is a very delicate balancing act.
    jtaylor23User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:518 jtaylor23
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    02 Oct 2010 07:21 PM
    Man, that is something what a really great idea.very interresting reading on how it works......JOHN
    BulBobUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:9 BulBob
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    02 Oct 2010 09:43 PM
    I'll do a lot of testing with legs, skirts, spinners to see what works.
    There is trial and error work and every adder can change tie on point so it planes at a wide angle.
    The wider the angle it runs the easier it flips because it improves the leverage angle for a little tug to make it flip.
    A wide planing angle is also important because it can greatly increase the area covered on each cast.
    Folks talk about gear ratios in their reels but this is cast distance to retrieve distance ratio of up to 1:10.
    It looks and feels weird when reeling 1/10th your typical speed and your lure is traveling normal speed.
    I should probably try one with twin keels on top and bottom like big planer boards...hmmmm???

    In case you didn't see it...there is a 1/3 off deal for BulletBobbers in the Members Benefits // Deals and Discounts // on page 3.
    Here is the link to the deal page. http://www.fishingclub.com/member-b...rentpage/3

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