1963 evanrude 50 hp motor
Last Post 16 Feb 2011 06:30 PM by bass or bass?. 17 Replies.
Printer Friendly
  •  
  •  
  •  
  •  
  •  
Sort:
PrevPrev NextNext
You are not authorized to post a reply.
Author Messages
pogue75User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:25 pogue75
--
12 Oct 2010 10:12 AM

    I just bought a boat with a 1963 evanrude motor on it.  Last time it was in the water was 5 years ago.  What I am trying to figure out, is it worth repairing.  What threshold on price for repairs would it not be worth repairing.   How much would it cost to get a good used motor about the same 50hp. 

    domkaajUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:140 domkaaj
    --
    12 Oct 2010 11:06 AM
    based on my info and experience, ( I just refurbed a 9 horse seaking last winter). it all depends on what you have, I considered it a fun project so I did not account my time, but after researching a similar motor and the cost would be about $450, then on top of that if you buy one there is no garuntee it will not be in the same shape as the one you already have, if you look for a newer model the amount you pay will be exponentially higher. for you with the hp you are looking for you are probably looking at 800- 1200 to buy a similar used model my thought is that if you cut that value in half, and can figure what parts you need to make your motor new then you can assess if the rebuild would be efficient on your part if you go over half the cost of a similar model, you are not going to gain anything by it, ( do to if you would want to sell it after you finish, you figure in the bartering value, the cost of shipping, and reduced value from when you took your search on similar models, you would not have any net profit.
    I was lucky, I knew the motor I had and although it had not been run it 15 years, (due to a cracked lower unit housing) I knew it had been stored in my dads basement, standing upright the whole time) I made the repairs at the cost of $150 which was closing on the median for the value of the motor, but was worth it, due to it sitting , you will probably want to pull the fuel bowl and carb and clean them up good prior to the first start, make sure there is no issues with the cylinders, ( usually you can tell if you take your spark plugs out and Slowly move the fly wheel you should be able to feel if there is any abnormal stickyness and see if there is any major scarring on the walls with a flashlight and tiny mirror. if this is a problem the fix is going to be too expensive.
    hope this helps a little, after the initial inspection, then get new fuel and barrel test it, ( i prefer barrel testing, because then starting it will immediately tell you if your water pump is good, ( if it is bad and you are using muffs, you may get a false sense of security, then you take it out and burn it up on the first run, if you get it to run and it is spraying good you should be alright, and all the little stuff beyond that you can work on as you need, if it doe snot start the it is the tinker and test method, ( change plugs, test, check wires and other parts test, etc). Good luck, it taeks a while , but it is a good feeling you did the work and got it running on your own.
    domkaajUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:140 domkaaj
    --
    12 Oct 2010 11:07 AM
    based on my info and experience, ( I just refurbed a 9 horse seaking last winter). it all depends on what you have, I considered it a fun project so I did not account my time, but after researching a similar motor and the cost would be about $450, then on top of that if you buy one there is no garuntee it will not be in the same shape as the one you already have, if you look for a newer model the amount you pay will be exponentially higher. for you with the hp you are looking for you are probably looking at 800- 1200 to buy a similar used model my thought is that if you cut that value in half, and can figure what parts you need to make your motor new then you can assess if the rebuild would be efficient on your part if you go over half the cost of a similar model, you are not going to gain anything by it, ( do to if you would want to sell it after you finish, you figure in the bartering value, the cost of shipping, and reduced value from when you took your search on similar models, you would not have any net profit.
    I was lucky, I knew the motor I had and although it had not been run it 15 years, (due to a cracked lower unit housing) I knew it had been stored in my dads basement, standing upright the whole time) I made the repairs at the cost of $150 which was closing on the median for the value of the motor, but was worth it, due to it sitting , you will probably want to pull the fuel bowl and carb and clean them up good prior to the first start, make sure there is no issues with the cylinders, ( usually you can tell if you take your spark plugs out and Slowly move the fly wheel you should be able to feel if there is any abnormal stickyness and see if there is any major scarring on the walls with a flashlight and tiny mirror. if this is a problem the fix is going to be too expensive.
    hope this helps a little, after the initial inspection, then get new fuel and barrel test it, ( i prefer barrel testing, because then starting it will immediately tell you if your water pump is good, ( if it is bad and you are using muffs, you may get a false sense of security, then you take it out and burn it up on the first run, if you get it to run and it is spraying good you should be alright, and all the little stuff beyond that you can work on as you need, if it doe snot start the it is the tinker and test method, ( change plugs, test, check wires and other parts test, etc). Good luck, it taeks a while , but it is a good feeling you did the work and got it running on your own.
    BadgerUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:274 Badger
    --
    12 Oct 2010 12:28 PM
    Heck, it may be just fine. Before you throw the baby out with the bath water, give it a try and see if it runs. It might need a carb overhaul, water pump and/or coils. Lower unit lube for sure. You need a baseline to start with so you'll have an idea of what it needs and cost.

    You can't use muffs on a '63, it has to be in the water.
    Hayward Lakes Wi ----- Life member since 1994
    pogue75User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:25 pogue75
    --
    13 Oct 2010 07:27 AM
    I appreciate the info from both of you. Your posts give me hope. I am worried about finding parts for the motor. Do you know if there is any good websites or mail order companies? 1st thing I need to do is get a repair manual for the motor.
    domkaajUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:140 domkaaj
    --
    13 Oct 2010 08:14 AM
    http://www.americanoutboard.com/shop/shop.htm
    this website above is the one I finally got my parts from, there are a few places I found online just from doing searches for outboard motor parts, check ebay too, as I thought I saw some parts for an evinrude 63 thought it was a 50 but could be confused, when I did my research I spent more time looking, than actually doing the repair. also if you go to antique outboard restoration websites or outboard collector websites, they will usually have a list of their go to dealers, seems like in my searching it ends up being the same 8 or so vendors, I will try and dig up the search info when I get a chance.
    bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
    --
    13 Oct 2010 09:32 PM
    iboats.com folks can give you any answers you need.
    Phoenix Arizona ~Outdoor-Fishing~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~
    Dennis1022User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:216 Dennis1022
    --
    14 Oct 2010 05:18 AM
    Here is a web site that you can get plenty of free information on OB's, Boats any kind. ( www.themarinedoctor.com ). Also another web site is ( www.tinboats.net ). I hope this information sites will help also. For myself I'm repairing a 25 Evinrude 1971 from a pull to electric start. So good luck on your project.
    Dennis
    Always Practice Everyday> Catch, Weigh, Measure, Photograph and Release !! Dennis
    PegsguyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4095 Pegsguy
    --
    14 Oct 2010 11:27 AM
    Pougue: I don't mean to be a wet blanket but remember that the newer the motor, the less it weighs for the same HP. I can find a newer 75 that weighs a lot less than the old 50 you have! That said, Sierra Marine is a good source for vintage outboard parts (but not the only one) and keepint that classic running shouldn't be to much of a problem if you are handy with a wrench! Tom
    Lifer in NE Illinois Gen. 1:28 I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become a vegitarian!
    bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
    --
    14 Oct 2010 07:56 PM

    The source that I use for ignition and carburator parts  for my 1967 Evinrude Starflite 80 is www.vintageoutboard.com.

    Phoenix Arizona ~Outdoor-Fishing~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~
    stewy2121User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:1 stewy2121
    --
    21 Oct 2010 11:02 PM
    The first thing you must do is check the compression of the cylinders if they are even the motor shoud be good.then check the spark if that is good clean the carb and change lower unit fluid and you shoud be good to go
    pogue75User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:25 pogue75
    --
    21 Oct 2010 11:25 PM
    Compression. Great point. I appreciate everyone's info.
    davesett2000User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2212 davesett2000
    --
    25 Oct 2010 12:21 PM
    I'm getting a "403" error on that vintageoutboard website.

    Anyone else able to get there?
    Life Member David 2001 BB Linkmeister US Army 1978-1985 Western Wisconsin Photobucket
    nathan17User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:1 nathan17
    --
    29 Oct 2010 07:06 PM
    it would at leas cost 2,000 dollars cause I just bought one but u might be better of getting new parts for your motor
    rubadeau2User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:5 rubadeau2
    --
    04 Dec 2010 11:23 AM
    Try this http://www.nymarine.ca/ and also marineengine.com.They carry a very good line of factory and after market parts.I've gotten a lot of parts for my 55 5.5 Johnson from them.nymarine is in Canada and he carries some parts,decals and oem matched paints.
    pogue75User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:25 pogue75
    --
    04 Dec 2010 09:50 PM
    Thanks I just found out that none of the service centers will work on my motor.
    pogue75User is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:25 pogue75
    --
    16 Feb 2011 10:37 AM
    I found a great book on at amazon.com called Cheap Outboads, the beginner's guide to making an old motor run forever by Max E Wawrzyniak III. This has been a great book to help me get more info on my motor. Thanks again to everybody that has helped with information.
    bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
    --
    16 Feb 2011 06:30 PM
    If you look on e-bay you can probably find an original shop manual for that motor. My wife found an original 1967 Evinrude shop manual for my  Starflite 80 there for @ $20. It has been priceless for me.
    Phoenix Arizona ~Outdoor-Fishing~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~
    You are not authorized to post a reply.