Hello people,
With all the knots we see , I have not seen a knot that works for real small hooks. Any suggestions ?

Yep, an improved clinch knot or turle knot for really fine hooks especially for fly casting.

It really depends on the size of the hook eye.  If the hook eye is too small, it is unrealistic to use the improved clinch knot (also known as the Trilene knot), because it involves feeding the line twice throught the hook eye.

I just use a Palomar for most of my fly knots, but instead of running the doubled line though the eye I just put the line through twice. The reason I don't like using the Clinch is because I learned it wrong the first time and never had much faith in it.

I spent a little while in the shop looking them over, making sure I don't mislead anyone. In each case, for instance a bream hook used to catch baitfish, I had no problem spearing the eye twice even without my reading glasses, using the recommended maximum 4# line. You are right about that knot if trying to use a line not appropriate for the hook size, like if I tried using an 8# or 10# line on it. Maybe Dave can relocate a hook size/line size chart I probably saw here years ago.

In most cases, the line I use is small enough to pass through the hook eyelet twice, so I can still use my regular trilene knot.

i use a palomar knot i dothe same as skewl and it works all the time

If you are using small hooks, you should be using very light line (2lb. to 4lb.). If you are using monofilament, copolymer or flourocarbon, the Trilene knot is your easiest and strongest. The Trilene knot (also known as the Bill Dance knot) allows you to pass the tag end through the hook eye twice then tie a regular clinch knot using 5 wraps with the tag around the main line. I've tied this particular knot with hooks as small as size 20 (but with no more than 2-4lb. line). Another strong and easy knot with small hooks is the Surgeons Loop, this knot is the only one I use when fishing with tiny jigs. The Surgeons Loop allows your jig to work freely giving you maximum action. If you are using superlines or braids, the palomar knot is extremely strong and probably the easiest knot on the planet to tie. You can find diagrams for all of these knots at Knot Wars or just google them. I haven't had any of these knots fail unless they are tied incorrectly......Hope this helps......Tight Lines.....TheFishman......