kclance
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| 22 Feb 2011 11:56 PM |
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I have never had the chance to do any trout fishing and never caught one. I am starting my research on what they are using to catch them locally but I would love any and all tips and suggestions for someone new to this species. I dont have a fly rod and only have conventional spinners. I am reading through this entire section trying to pick up all I can but you can never have to much info  thanks yall |
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Fishing is my break from reality whether I catch anything or not, give me a pole and a mud hole and I am happy as a clam :)
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Pegsguy
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| 23 Feb 2011 08:08 AM |
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I don't do a lot of trout fishing but here are some thoughts to get you started. Small inline spinners like Mepps, Roostertails etc are usually good. If you are limited to spinning gear, don't despair as a casting bubble which is like a float that is designed to allow water to be added as ballast will allow you to cast flies with spinning gear. Of course all of this is based on my assumption that you are fishing rivers/streams for freshwater trout. The casting bubbles should be locally available, if not for sure Cabela's has them in the catalog or online. Tom |
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solitario lupo
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| 23 Feb 2011 04:00 PM |
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U dont need a fly rod. I have been fishing for trout with my spinning rod for years. Try using worms, maggots, or wax worms. I usually use power bait and sometimes thats all u need but I do have to say that there is only 1 color that works great. I dont use any other color. The only reason y i am not posting the color because it is very hard to find where i am and they do sell out quickly. So if u would like the color give me a p.m. and ill be more than happy to tell u. I use a 4.5' rod with a small spinning reel. This is for stocked trout. For bigger trout like steelhead it is different. |
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spindoctor
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| 23 Feb 2011 10:34 PM |
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I have been chaseing trout since 68 and I have found that spinners are about the most effective over all. I make the Super Bow spinners and since the first I have averaged 4 trout per hour every year in local streams as well as streams and rivers in Colorado, Montana, Idaho etc. This year I am starting a totaly new line of TWIST-Less spinners that eliminate almost all line twist, and also have started the new One-der Bow a single hook design that has out produced spinners with trebles in both proformance as well as production. They are hand made by me right here in USA, and you will catch trout as well as other fish. eggersspinners.com John Eggers (spindoctor) |
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kclance
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| 24 Feb 2011 12:56 AM |
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Hey John, I was wondering if you had an assortment pack of your most suggested spinners? If so shoot me a pm or email me at kevinclance1980@aol.com I would like to give them a try. I love trying new stuff. I see you have a couple for pike too, thats another fish I want to hang in to soon. I hear they put up a good fight. Thanks for all the replies and help so far yall are great Kevin |
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| Life Member from West Virginia
Fishing is my break from reality whether I catch anything or not, give me a pole and a mud hole and I am happy as a clam :)
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bpetersen
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| 24 Feb 2011 07:08 AM |
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Kevin. I would say in my opinion the best start would be to talk to some fellow fishermen in your area to see whats hot in west Virginia. also try posting in the WV section of this forum for some local help. I am a big spinner fan and a fly fisherman( at least trying to be) but a good ol worm can work wonders some times. also the suggestion for using a casting bubble and a fly is a good bet. a good choice ( again in my opinion only) would be an attractor dry fly such as a renegade or a coachman. a hopper pattern in summer may be a good bet also. Brian |
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spindoctor
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| 24 Feb 2011 11:26 AM |
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Will do Kevin, I would say that in your area the Black Pearls would be an excellant choice, as you typicaly get a little more terrestial action earlier than we do up north. I can also send you a copy of a popular TV show that we filmed in 2008 that shows how we use spinners for trout, the host caught and released 80 trout that day.
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Sierrafishing
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| 27 Feb 2011 05:52 PM |
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Trout fishing is my favorite type of fishing. I have just a few suggestions. Trout are very line shy, keep your line size at 8 pounds or less(unless you plan on catching a monster trout). I use 4# or 6# line myself. Retrieve your lures as slow as possible while still maintaining proper lure action. Vary your presentation depth by casting, pausing and counting down in increments until you find the depth the fish are at that day. Don't go too big on lure size(most of my trout lures are 1/8 and 1/16 ounce) as the larger lures tend to scare trout away. Trout can sometimes be light biters so use properly sized gear and if you use bait such as power bait off of the bottom, I suggest you use a small, light weight bobber or something similar loosely attached to your line between two guides to hold a section of slack line down that the fish can take so they don't feel any resistance when taking the bait. This also makes a great bite indicator. Wait until the fish is done "playing " with the bait and actually runs with the bait and takes up all of the slack which means it's time to set the hook. BTW, use a slip sinker on your main line and tie on a swivel ahead of your leader section to keep the sinker away from the hook. The fish can take the bait without feeling the resistance of the weight. Regarding lures, in-line spinners are very productive as are various types of spoons, crankbaits, jigs and smaller plastic worms. You can even fish with flies without a fly rod/reel using a clear casting bubble as the weight. Salmon eggs, worms or power bait(and imitations of) are good bait choices for trout. Try asking around to see what might be productive in your area. Good luck.
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kclance
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| 28 Feb 2011 01:16 AM |
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I love this forum! You guys always have a wealth of information and I am learning so much about all types of fishing. So far I havent met anyone in my area who does trout fish and the few people I have met when fishing only fish for catfish and bass as I am usually doing. So I will learn more by trial and error but with the great folks here on the forum I do have a step ahead with types of lures and baits to use. Sierrafishing, I had no clue that they were line shy so I will have to restring a reel (just got my shimano 2500hd from the club so its a good candidate I hope) and should I use a light action or ultra light rod? If they are light biters I know my current medium and heavy action rods will be too much and I wont feel much of a bite. Also what is a "casting bubble" I have read of people using balloons attached with a rubberband trout fishing, is this a casting bubble or is there an actual piece of tackle called that? I am going now to check around on bass pro, gander mountain, and dicks sporting goods so I may answer my own question but figured I would go ahead and ask. You guys are awesome and thank you so much for the info, Kevin |
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Fishing is my break from reality whether I catch anything or not, give me a pole and a mud hole and I am happy as a clam :)
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bpetersen
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| 28 Feb 2011 06:47 AM |
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hey Kclance. to answer your question about a casting bubble. The basic idea is to have a bubble with a center post that can be slid out partially and water let into the middle. this will add weight but still float. fill the bubble half to 3/4 full and add your terminal tackle and a fly on the end. now you can cast the weightless fly with ease.
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Sierrafishing
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| 28 Feb 2011 06:26 PM |
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Looks like bpetersen answered the casting bubble question, thanks bpetersen. I also have some that are basically just a clear tear drop or oval shaped float that have a ring eye on each end to tie your line to and allow the line to lie flat on the water. Regarding the fish being line shy, it's not as much of a problem with planted trout but absolutely a concern if you target wild fish. Which reminds me, if you do some stream fishing, try to be as inconspicuous as possible. The fish can be extremely wary. I have spooked fish by doing nothing more than poking my head out from behind cover some distance away to look over a pool, just to see the fish make a mad dash for cover. Try to stay low and keep your shadow away from the water if possible. Back to the line size, the size of your line needs to be consistent with the size of the lures used and many trout seem to prefer smaller sized lures in the 1/3 ounce range or smaller as I have actually seen trout flee from some bigger lures I have tried in the past. The exception might be if you are targeting very large fish. Also, when bait fishing, trout tend to mouth or feel the bait a little bit before actually taking the bait and they might feel heavier line easier. Generally the lighter line and/or lighter the lures you use, the lighter the rod must be to cast correctly. The rod I use for bait fishing(1/4 ounce weight or less) for trout and throwing heavier spoons(from 1/8 to 1/3 ounce) is a medium power rod but both of my rods that I use more for casting light lures(3/8 ounce or smaller) are ultra light and light power. I would say that a heavy power rod is too heavy for trout fishing except maybe large steelhead or brown trout. As for feeling the bites, sometimes they are extremely light and sometimes they hit like a freight train, I guess it all depends on the mood of the fish. Good luck! |
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Sierrafishing
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| 28 Feb 2011 06:35 PM |
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BTW, I usually use 4 to 6 pound line when trout fishing. |
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Captain Quantum
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| 01 Mar 2011 12:28 AM |
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I use 10 pound test as my default set up for smallmouth bass and trout too. I have never had any problems with them being line shy as my line is virtually invisible in the water. And besides, I want to be prepared for that 5 pound trout! Or bigger! The trout usually hit, like Sierrafishing said, like a freight train in the areas I fish. I am kind of secretive about my trout techniques as it gets pretty competitive out there on the water, you know?! If any of you want to send me a Private Message I will tell you my trout set up but i don't want to post it on here. Sorry! In my opinion, trout fishing gets a real bum rap from guys who are strictly bass fisherman. There is tons of action in trout fishing if you know how to do it and are catching quality trout on almost every outing! And they fight hard! I use a medium action rod, and the trout still make me work for every fish! Gosh I love fishing! |
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bpetersen
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| 01 Mar 2011 06:37 AM |
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I have noticed on this forum and from other sites that alot of the lakes and ponds are approaching ice out conditions. If you live in a place were this is occurring you could be in for some action. cast your bait to the edge of the ice or on top of the ice and drag it over the edge to plop into the open water. trout will often hang out here wating for tasty morsels to unthaw from the ice edge. plus it seems that they are hungry at this time of year. also target shallows and bays that are warmed by the sun. I would say my go to line size for trout most of the time is in the 6 to 8 pound range. Brian |
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Pegsguy
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| 01 Mar 2011 01:54 PM |
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I don't know if this is universal but the stocker trout I have fished for have all been bottom feeders. That would make fluorocarbon line doubly good- low vis and negatively buoyant. I'm thinking Brian's advice about working the ice edge might be good for more than just trout! Tom |
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Sierrafishing
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| 01 Mar 2011 05:41 PM |
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Posted By Captain Quantum on 01 Mar 2011 01:28 AM
I use 10 pound test as my default set up for smallmouth bass and trout too. I have never had any problems with them being line shy as my line is virtually invisible in the water. And besides, I want to be prepared for that 5 pound trout! Or bigger! The trout usually hit, like Sierrafishing said, like a freight train in the areas I fish. I use ultra clear P-Line floroclear but I have to use lighter line because of the crystal clear snow melt water in the rivers
here and the average wild fish is only about 11" long and the planters
about 12" so heavier line is not needed. I do hook the occasional 15"
planter rainbow or 20" wild brown, but there aren't too many here. I
wish the streams here had a bunch of 5 pounders in them. The larger
fish actually hit rather lightly while the small wild rainbow and
brown trout hit like a wrecking ball. I guess they have to compete more for
their food. I did catch a few planter trout years ago in the local
reservoir on 20# line though. |
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Sierrafishing
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| 01 Mar 2011 06:15 PM |
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Posted By Captain Quantum on 01 Mar 2011 01:28 AM
In my opinion, trout fishing gets a real bum rap from guys who are strictly bass fisherman. There is tons of action in trout fishing if you know how to do it and are catching quality trout on almost every outing! And they fight hard! I use a medium action rod, and the trout still make me work for every fish! Gosh I love fishing!
I agree! One of my co-workers is a bass guy and he jokingly calls me the perch getter. I said if he ever gets tired of catching those plain green mundane fighting largemouths at the less than scenic local reservoirs, he should come with me to take in some clean air at 6,000 feet in the middle of some giant sequoia trees to fish the clear, fast water for some amazingly colorful and hard fighting trout. They aren't too big around here but they sure fight much harder(pound for pound) than the lazy bass do. I guess since I prefer trout fishing I put more effort into it, but I sure can catch trout more consistently than bass(I do bass fish too). The bass are too hit and miss. It doesn't help that the local lakes get blasted by tournament bass guys every weekend almost all year long either. Besides, there's nothing wrong with "perch". I like crappie fishing and if those bass fought like bluegill(or trout) do, I'd go after them much more than I do now.  |
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solitario lupo
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| 01 Mar 2011 07:14 PM |
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to me bass and trout fishing are the same. Just pass anything in front of them and they will hit the bait. What 's really fun is when you see a bunch of them laying in the hole and when 1 hits they all seem to follow. A buddy at work talks crap on the trout and says he loves bass fishing. I just laugh at him. then he asks why i am laughing. I asked him if he had ever caught a 8lb, 20+ inch trout before. He said no but ive caught a 20 in bass before. I still laugh. Im not dissing bass but I love it when you catch a trout that can smoke the reel in matter of seconds. Ive caught those 20 in bass to but they seem to give up quicker. |
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Captain Quantum
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| 02 Mar 2011 10:18 PM |
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And trout taste better than bass too! Ha ha! |
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swamprunner
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| 03 Mar 2011 10:32 PM |
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klance; kevin here in Idaho I use spinners,worms,jigs,marshmallows, & powerbait. For me the best P.B. is orange but the multiplicity colors work pretty good too. Trout like bright colors too if you have clear line before the lure. Also even useing swimbait lures works. If you are going after the big ones they like colder water so you need to go deep. (15"-- 20") thats good for walley & pike. Be ready for a fight if you hook one of them.LOL Anyway good luck this year have fun Remember don't drink & boat. GOD BLESS 0{:-)> |
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