Setting the Hook !
Last Post 08 Mar 2011 03:22 PM by Captain Quantum. 21 Replies.
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CASMANUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:58 CASMAN
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05 Mar 2011 07:40 PM
    After a Fish is Hooked I usually try to Set the Hook 2 or 3 Times
    I usually try to keep the Line tight during the Fight !
    Some manufactures of Line Specify Hook Setting Preferences
    Any Suggestions
    Thanx
    CM
    Captain QuantumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1399 Captain Quantum
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    05 Mar 2011 11:44 PM
    I have never heard of ANYONE setting the hook more than one time with any species of fish! Maybe you need to reel in the slack before setting the hook the FIRST time?
    slipperybobUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1240 slipperybob
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    06 Mar 2011 03:56 AM
    It depends on the hooks and type of line and for what species of fish. I almost don't have much of a hook set, more like a wrist flick then a rod load. I do often tend to horse the fish out of cover to prevent snaffu's. So it may look like I'm hooksetting again, but I'm not really.
    Captain QuantumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1399 Captain Quantum
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    06 Mar 2011 04:52 AM
    But he is talking about 2 to 3 INDIVIDUAL hook sets slipperybob. No serious fisherman does that! And im not really sure what kind of fish you are targeting, but if it's bass, then you set the hook only ONCE! If it is trout, you set the hook ONCE! And any other species of fish I know of, if it is required to set the hook, you do it ONCE! KVD has NEVER set the hook 3 times on one bass! Come on! I guess I need clarification if I am not currently understanding the original premise.
    slipperybobUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1240 slipperybob
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    06 Mar 2011 05:18 AM
    I do agree that most people would never need to do beyond the first attempt at the hook set that's a hook up. Pikes and Muskies may need a second or third hookset because the first or second attempts may not be enough to drive the hook points in. It merely depends on lure type in addition to upgrading to sharper hooks pretty much solves that headache. I don't remember the last time I've ever had a need to do a second hook set on a fish. In part that has to do with using braided superlines. It also depends on the bite direction. I've had bass that bit and continue to swim forward which left me without a good hookset on the first attempt. Then again, it's something that I feel like the hookset was just too loose and lacking the solid hook up feel. I've also caught walleyes where the hook had never made a hook set but merely the bend was around a tooth.
    CASMANUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:58 CASMAN
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    06 Mar 2011 05:23 AM

    Thank You

    Let me Clarify !

    I may not be using the Sharpest hooks and a Catfish has a Tough Mouth !

    Usually a Fight with a Catfish is Longer than a Largemouth !in my opinion !

    Doing some checking

    Thanx CM

     

    Captain QuantumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1399 Captain Quantum
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    06 Mar 2011 05:48 AM
    I don't ever fish for catfish so I would not be able to give a relevant answer on the subject.
    Captain QuantumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1399 Captain Quantum
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    06 Mar 2011 05:53 AM
    If I ever happen to accidentally hook one while fishing for another species, I throw them back. I would never eat one as they are bottom feeders. They may be fun to catch on occasion, but I would never eat them! One hook set should be enough for a catfish right?! Maybe im wrong though.
    PegsguyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4104 Pegsguy
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    06 Mar 2011 07:31 AM
    If more than one set is required, it is definitly time to replace or sharpen some hooks. Many anglers fishing for cat are now using circle hooks which usually don't require any 'setting' just a tightening of the line. No stretch line like braid helps here also. Don't be fooled- many fluoro lines are advertised as low stretch. Maybe compared with nylon mono but I have yet to use a fluoro that doesn't stretch. Berkely told me that Vanish had a stretch of about 23%. That means over 10 feet of stretch with 50' of line out! Just something to keep in mind. Tom
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    duckmanUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1143 duckman
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    06 Mar 2011 08:34 AM
    capt dont be put off by the miscoception tha cats are bottom feedeers they can be but eat the same stuff as bass most of the time also they are considered one of the best eating fish out there
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    CASMANUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:58 CASMAN
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    06 Mar 2011 12:45 PM
    OK so I think I need to get a different type of Hook !
    I usually Release whatever I catch anyway !
    Now here is My Opinion !
    Catfish VS Largemouth Bass !
    I have caught both and the Catfish definately fight Harder !
    Smallmouth bass Fight pretty good also !
    The Mouth of the Catfish is Much Tougher and Harder to Set the Hook !
    I have had catfish to come up and take a Bait and 
    Believe it or Not I caught a catfish on a Spinner !
    Thanx 
    CM
    Captain QuantumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1399 Captain Quantum
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    06 Mar 2011 03:13 PM
    But catfish's mouths are uniquely suited for feeding on the bottom, are they not? And catfish fight harder CASMAN because they are huge! And yeah, smallies fight hard! And that's very interesting that you caught a catfish on a spinner! A spinner bait? Or on like a trout spinner?
    AZAllenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2496 AZAllen
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    06 Mar 2011 03:39 PM
    I started to give an answer the other day but my local server cut me out, it does depend on the type of fishing and tackle one is using. I am with slippery bob, most of my hooksets are just with a wrist snap. With plastics, most reel down and give it a good hard strike just to make sure the hook gets out of the plastic and into the fish. The only place I have seen "multiple strikes" was on TV watching some of the saltwater big game fish. Catfish mouths uniquely suited to feeding on the bottom ????, I have caught channel cats on spoons and on worms dangled under a bobber (was fishing for bluegills with my daughters). Catching a cat on a plastic worm or jigging spoon that was being worked for bass happens every once in a while also. Cats being bottom feeders, well, so are lobsters and people pay big money for them.
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    Captain QuantumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1399 Captain Quantum
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    06 Mar 2011 04:00 PM
    Catfish live and feed on the bottom the majority of the time. That's a fact! People sure are touchy about this! Well anyways, you definitely need sharper hooks!
    slipperybobUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1240 slipperybob
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    06 Mar 2011 04:54 PM
    Actually when catfish becomes big, they begin to feed more on a diet of live fish. I've had one trip where spoons and spinners outfish bait set on the bottom. Some of the best catfishing is keeping your bait suspended over snaggy bottoms where the catfish likes to hide in. They are still opportunistic feeders and will take an easy meal on the bottom. In some rivers I fish at, you can see the beaten up lips of the catfish that feed a lot off the bottoms. This same river has the same feature on the bass that lives in there. They are after the crayfish and other small fish that often hides in the rocks.

    Both Bass and Catfish have some hard cartilage in their mouths. However catfish have a tough fatty skin mouth, so smaller hooks can still stick to that. It takes a hook to be properly positioned to give a hookset to go through the upper lip of a catfish. I've had great luck with Mustad Big Gun Catfish hooks and some decent luck with Gamakatsu Circle hooks. As for bass, I tend to stick mostly with Owner hooks with the cutting point.
    Captain QuantumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1399 Captain Quantum
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    06 Mar 2011 05:07 PM
    It all depends on the species of catfish. Some species actively hunt and feed on fish and other aquatic organisms and some are more of the bottom feeder variety. They can be herbivores or carnivores. But the barbels on the catfish is an adaptation of the species to allow it to feed on the bottom during low light to no light conditions.
    Captain QuantumUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1399 Captain Quantum
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    06 Mar 2011 05:07 PM
    It all depends on the species of catfish. Some species actively hunt and feed on fish and other aquatic organisms and some are more of the bottom feeder variety. They can be herbivores or carnivores. But the barbels on the catfish is an adaptation of the species to allow it to feed on the bottom during low light to no light conditions.
    CASMANUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:58 CASMAN
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    06 Mar 2011 06:59 PM
    Wow a Great bunch of advice
    I am also glad to hear that I am Not the onlu one that has caught a Cat on a spinner or spoon
    I also Fully Agree with keeping Bait just off the Bottom in this Case
    I have a Styrfoam Bobber that I Run under water
    I have Sprayed it with Blotched Paint to make it look old !
    Works well !
    Thanx
    CM
    duckmanUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1143 duckman
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    07 Mar 2011 09:54 AM
    all fish are oppertunistic feeders which means if they find an easy meal on the bottom they will eat it i have seen 2 limits of smallmouth bass caught tightlining mulberries on the bottom under a mulberry tree most bass i catch are caught dragging plastics along the bottom and catfish do put a a good fight similar or better than a bass of a similar size i have caught quite a few cats while fishing artificials ihave also caught bass tightlining bait on the bottom while fishing for cats ihave caught cats fishing for crappie all fish are bottom feeders ive even caught trout fishing on the bottom as far as the original question i recommend using sharp circle hooks as this will negate having to use multiple hooksets
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    CASMANUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:58 CASMAN
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    08 Mar 2011 02:02 PM
    Well Thanx for all
    I guess I will have to get some New Hooks
    Sharp ones
    CM
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