Buy Electric or stay with Gas?
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scasteelUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1179 scasteel
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11 Mar 2011 02:18 PM
    With the recent surge to get much better gas mileage, [and sales] it seems car manufacturers are forgetting one serious thing.
    It apparently seems none of these new model electric vehicles are trailer hitch compatible.   I haven't even seen or heard about an electric Pick-up model of any kind yet.  

    AND size is getting much smaller and smaller than what many of us will need to drive or haul with. Even home made and U-haul trailers  
    In some cases these electric cars have to re-charged every 100 miles too.  Who wants to re-charge a vehicle several times on a long fishing or hunting trip/vacation?

    I wonder what kind of true power any of these electric vehicles will have? Can they climb large hills or mountains, or even have enough power to make a sudden stop, or hit the gas [floor it] to avoid an emergency with a trailer being pulled behind it?

    I will always need a vehicle that can pull a boat, motor, and trailer 16 ft long or longer,
    or a pick up that I can haul a 14 ft. john boat and trolling motor in.  Right now all these new electric vehicles seem friendly too, are folks that fish or hunt from the bank. Or only drive to vacation spots.

    Right now, [my opinion] You can scrap everyone of these stinking Electric car models, I will not be buying one of them
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    And I am sure hunters, farmers, vacationers,  ATV, Jet Ski, and motorcycle / dirt bike riders are also going to need a trailer hitch equipped vehicle, or goose neck connections.

    I currently don't know of  [or heard of] any Auto manufacturer that will be building anything to help the Sportsman's or farmers or haulers needs.
    Could PETA be behind or backing this downsizing  to ruin the Sportsman?

    If you know of any manufacturer or a certain Electric model that fits my [or your own] needs, let me know who it is. I'll take a look at them.

    Right now, I am sticking with the ole' gas models until the Electric cars can prove they can do nearly everything my gas model does. Esp not having to stop every 100 miles to recharge.
    I currently can go just over 300 miles in my Honda Element EX before re-filling it.
    PegsguyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4095 Pegsguy
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    11 Mar 2011 06:07 PM
    Electrics are meant as errand-runners and for folks with short commutes. Right now the prices are exorbitant and who really knows how long the batteries will hold up before replacement? Even some of the Hybrids aren't worth spit for towing. A buddy of mine bought a Chevy Silverado Hybrid and found out that it wouldn't back his boat up the drive! Seems they were engineered without a reverse gear in the trans and reverse power was from the electric only! It will be a long time before I buy an electric! BTW, has anyone noticed that highway mileage in most Hybrids is no better than a combustion engined vehicle? Tom
    Lifer in NE Illinois Gen. 1:28 I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become a vegitarian!
    BadgerUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:274 Badger
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    11 Mar 2011 07:21 PM
    Electric, gas/electric and hybrids all have their place in the big picture. Just not in my garage. Those kinds of vehicles may be perfect for some, just not me.
    Hayward Lakes Wi ----- Life member since 1994
    bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
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    11 Mar 2011 08:20 PM
    Yeah, my 1988 Subaru 4X4 wagon (NOT all wheel drive like the newer ones) gets mileage as good as most hybrids! And it will tow an aluminum utility boat with no effort at all. I tow my 16 foot fiberglass boat with a 1987 Chevy S-10 Blazer with the 2.8 liter V-6. It's slow going up hill, but gets the job done, and it gets @ 25 mpg. I drove it to northern Wyoming from Phoenix Arizona 2 years ago to visit my dad. Filled the tank in Phoenix, Flagstaff, Utah, Colorado, and Wyoming. Five fill ups on the return trip too. That's the Blazer in front of my boat in the photo.

    Electrics are going to amp up the power grid. Where is that power going to come from? In most cases coal fired power plants. That's really ecologically sound!?! The tree huggers don't even think about that aspect of the "clean" electric vehicles. IF electric is the future, it will be decades before electric tow vehicles will be practical, if ever.
    Phoenix Arizona ~Outdoor-Fishing~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~
    diojisdadUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1794 diojisdad
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    12 Mar 2011 05:11 AM
    Electric cars are expensive. Then you have to figure out how much more you home electric bill will be and where on the road it can be charged. Too much thought for this kid. I sticking with my Chevy Pickup till I get the loot for a Cadillac CTSV.
    " It doesn't matter if the horse is blind, Just load the cart anyway!!" (John Madden) (NAFC TLM), (NAHC TLM), (NRA) FRED FROM MARYLAND
    AZAllenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2431 AZAllen
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    12 Mar 2011 08:22 AM
    A big thing with some of these electric cars and the hybrids, other than the originial cost is battery replacement, which will have to eventually be done and they are not cheap.
    NAFC, NAHC, NRA, SASS, Viet Nam Vet. Bullhead City, AZ
    JustDaveUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:817 JustDave
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    12 Mar 2011 09:05 AM
    Disposal of the old battery is another thing the ecological society has not calculated.  Not cheap and not friendly.  If I had a job with six figure salary and reasonable commute, I might consider one if they gave it to me.  But I'd still have my Tundra for towing and hauling.
    JustDave
    JustDave Fishing With The Boys Custom Rods and Tackle Oregon
    jsanchez3User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:560 jsanchez3
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    12 Mar 2011 07:07 PM
    along with what you all have said how long does it take to recharge the batterys in those cars in the long run gas is eheaper
    jesse sanchez
    jsanchez3User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:560 jsanchez3
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    12 Mar 2011 07:11 PM
    the electric companys just was to corner the market just as they do with electric lawnmowers
    jesse sanchez
    jsanchez3User is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:560 jsanchez3
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    12 Mar 2011 07:14 PM
    Posted By bass or bass? on 11 Mar 2011 09:20 PM      i had a boat like that it was cream color on yellow 90 force engine // nice one there.
    Yeah, my 1988 Subaru 4X4 wagon (NOT all wheel drive like the newer ones) gets mileage as good as most hybrids! And it will tow an aluminum utility boat with no effort at all. I tow my 16 foot fiberglass boat with a 1987 Chevy S-10 Blazer with the 2.8 liter V-6. It's slow going up hill, but gets the job done, and it gets @ 25 mpg. I drove it to northern Wyoming from Phoenix Arizona 2 years ago to visit my dad. Filled the tank in Phoenix, Flagstaff, Utah, Colorado, and Wyoming. Five fill ups on the return trip too. That's the Blazer in front of my boat in the photo.

    Electrics are going to amp up the power grid. Where is that power going to come from? In most cases coal fired power plants. That's really ecologically sound!?! The tree huggers don't even think about that aspect of the "clean" electric vehicles. IF electric is the future, it will be decades before electric tow vehicles will be practical, if ever.


    jesse sanchez
    scasteelUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1179 scasteel
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    30 Mar 2011 02:49 PM
    I fear a much higher crime rate eventually in the theft of these new electric car batteries after they get selling at a profitable pace.

    Right now crooks are stealing air bags from autos [don't know why] as a fired bag should have to be replaced with a new one, // or one taken from one car unfired most likely will not fit in another brand of auto. /// and catalitic converters are being stolen and sold for small money for the metal in them to metal/scrap yards.
    scasteelUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1179 scasteel
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    26 Apr 2011 03:03 PM
    Seen the Chevy Volt And Nissan electric cars on National; TV news the other day I think Nissan won a top safety prize for their car. Hope no one in the NAFC is crazy/desperate enough to buy either one.

    The Cost!! /// The Volt is a measly $40,000.00 and the Nissan costs only $33,0000.00 !!!!!! Mere pocket change for the buyers to put out it seems to the dealers and advertisers.

    And there is a $7,500.00 credit for buying these darn things. REALLY energizes me to go out and buy one of these pieces of Garbage.!!!!!!

    It's claimed that one can pay these off [if they lease them] in 2/12 to 3 yrs. = Whoopie !! = NOT ME. WON'T TOUCH SUCH JUNK.

    And the Volt has a buyers waiting list of up to 20,00 orders. Not sure how many back orders are for the Nissan. Give me a break !! How many SUCKERS are born every minute now????

    I sure won't buy these pieces of junk that are not trailer hitch compatible.

    The Volt travels about 32 miles and then has a gas engine kick in making it useful for a total of another 50 miles or so. So it gets less than 100 miles per charge and gas. The Nissan was claimed to go about 72 miles before needing recharged.

    I'm sticking with gasoline models for now, no matter how bad the price of gas is.
    FFFischUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:902 FFFisch
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    28 Apr 2011 07:24 AM
    Well one way to look at it. If they have more people driving electric cars. That leaves more gas for me to tow my boat !
    WalleyeWayneUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:703 WalleyeWayne
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    28 Apr 2011 09:13 AM
    The more people driving electric cars will reduce gas consumption - which in turn should lessen demand - which in turn should lessen the cost of fuel for those of us that need combustible fuel! Bring on the electric cars I say!!! LOL! We are a two vehicle family - me with the truck and my wife with a car. I can see us buying an electric car for her and keeping the gas truck for what a truck is meant to do.
    repairUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:67 repair
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    28 Apr 2011 02:01 PM
    I can't see how you can go on a vacation with one.
    With a 75 to 100 mile rated distance?
    If you have a couple of kids the "are we there yet" factor goes sky high, plus the charging time, and say if you do make to a motel or hotel where do you plug in,
    and that is if you can get a spot near the building.
    They say its only for average city driving, ask someone from N.Y.C., Phila., or any big city what is average.
    Not for me.
    Fresh or salt both the same. Viet Vet USAF 71-75 Sgt.
    PegsguyUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:4095 Pegsguy
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    28 Apr 2011 03:36 PM
    Scasteel- where did you get your range figure for the Volt? The Volt is nothing more than a hybrid that can be plugged in to recharge. It will go as far as the gas in the tank will take it, probably a couple hundred miles and then a full tank puts you back on the road. It is still an overpriced econobox with limited practicality for most people and seems to be more of a status symbol than anything. I read one review that an owner wrote saying their electric bill went up $75 a month. Considering I spend less than $100 on gas in an average month I don't see an advantage!
    Lifer in NE Illinois Gen. 1:28 I didn't rise to the top of the food chain to become a vegitarian!
    scasteelUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1179 scasteel
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    02 May 2011 01:23 PM
    Pegsguy,... I was watchintg the 6 o'clock news a little over a week ago, one day out of Springfield, Mo [channel 3 or 33] not sure which. // and the figures I gave are the ones they put out in their report. They stated that for The Volt, ... 32 miles was the "Average" drive for most Americans and after the electricity ran out, gas would take over getting one another 50 -60 miles before needing fuel and a recharge.

    In the long run it gets less than 100 miles between electric and fuel. I have no idea where they got their info.????? I drive more than 32 miles daily where I live.
    FFFischUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:902 FFFisch
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    06 May 2011 06:45 AM
    On the news last night they said that the average family now spend about $ 390 a month on gas. The electric won't work for me either. But if someone gave me one I would drive it to work everyday. Those short in town trips is where you get the worse gas mileage.
    scasteelUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1179 scasteel
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    20 Jun 2011 10:52 AM
    After giving it some thought,... after all the dangerous weather the USA [and the world] has had, [Tornadoes, wildfires, floods, and earthquakes] what if an electric car was on charge and the electricity goes out???? Not much chance you can drive very far in it. Most likely you are stuck where the car is charging until repair crews can get the electricity back on and the re-charging can continue to full.

    At least with gas/fuel, & diesel, one has a very good chance it can start their vehicle and hopefully get away from danger.

    I agree that these electric cars are good for VERY short trips to town to buy, or go to work, but as a vehicle for long driving vacations and hauling something [like a boat and trailer or travel trailer] they STINK. !!!!
    scasteelUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1179 scasteel
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    02 Dec 2011 11:40 AM
    I looked at one of these new Nissan electric cars at a dealership the other day. As I figured and stated in a previous post. "They are okay for short shopping or going to work trips", but taking a vacation, or hauling things or pulling things, = They are worthless [to me]

    I will stay with a gas engine all I can. Esp. a Pick-up or SUV. At least they can either pull something or carry a large load on them. And they don't have to stop to be recharged every 100 miles or so.
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