traseley
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| 05 Apr 2011 04:39 PM |
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Can you explain Backing and tippet please. I have a fly rod that i bought already lined but I think it is time to change it and I don't know how exactly.
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skewl
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| 05 Apr 2011 05:40 PM |
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Backing is the line (usually monofilament or braid) that goes around the spool at the lowest level, providing some hold for the fly line to keep it from slipping on the spool. I wouldn't lose much sleep over the type that you buy, as it only come into play while fighting a fish that makes very long runs like salmon. I'm a bit cloudy on the difference between leader and tippet, too, so I'll leave that to a more knowledgeable fly fisherman. |
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mkieffer
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| 05 Apr 2011 06:28 PM |
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To add to the post by skewl. A leader is a tapered length of mono, usually about 7-9 feet long. The thicker end gets attached to the fly line. I usually use a no-knot eyelet or easier yet is a plastic leader connector (both found at any place that carries fly fishing supplies). The small end of the leader is then attached to the tippet using a blood knot. Tippet material is mono that is the same diameter throughout. It is sold in small spools. You attach it to the leader then cut it to the desired length (depending on species you are fishing for and the conditions). I usually use about a six foot tippet for trout fishing in clear water. Both leaders and tippet material come in different tests depending on what you are fishing for. You normally want to use the lightest you can get away with. Hope this helps.
Mark
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traseley
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| 05 Apr 2011 06:55 PM |
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What is the leader just mono? |
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mkieffer
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| 05 Apr 2011 07:42 PM |
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Yes. The leader is a packaged length of mono. It is tapered with a thicker butt section and a thin tip. They come in different lengths and diameters (break strength) The taper gives more strength in the butt section and less visibility in the tip. A good leader will last through alot of tippet changes before you get down into the thicker section. |
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traseley
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| 05 Apr 2011 07:45 PM |
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So how long approximately is the leader plus tippet? |
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the rod tosser
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| 06 Apr 2011 12:13 AM |
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the tippet is the thinnest part of a leader ( examples are like 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6x so on and so on the higher the number the lower the lb test strength is .
now as you fish you may tie on a different fly or break off wich will make the leader shorter over time , so one may add more line to the leader, or change the test strength for pickier fish or smaller flies . example would be a7 foot 4 x leader and i then added 2 feet of 6 x to it so now it is a 9 foot 6x leader.
One has a few knot choices as to add a tippet to the leader one is a double surgeon knot , a double uni knot or a blood knot . leader length varies on what your needs are . most are seven to 12 feat long . yes i said feet not inches . |
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traseley
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| 06 Apr 2011 06:10 AM |
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I looked on BPS and all of the leader they have for fly fishing all sinks. Are there different kinds for different kind of fishing? |
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bpetersen
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| 06 Apr 2011 01:00 PM |
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Posted By traseley on 05 Apr 2011 07:55 PM
What is the leader just mono? you can also get leader and tippet in flourocarbon. also a person can make their own leader by tying together progessively smaller diameter lines. you can customize your leader this way to perform better in certain situations. it is probably easier for now to just buy knotless tapered leader from the store. Brian |
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traseley
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| 06 Apr 2011 04:47 PM |
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Okay so backing on the line which is just mono. then the fly line. Then the leader and then the tippet. And the leader plus tippet could be 12 feet long. |
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bass or bass?
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| 06 Apr 2011 09:47 PM |
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I recommend using braided nylon fly line backing. Mono will get stiff, brittle, and coil as it ages, and since the fly line covers it , you will end up with degraded backing. The braid will be good for several seasons.
I also wouldn't recommend making your total leader length longer than your rod length. I fish only for panfish and bass, so I don't use tippet, and I only use regular mono for my leaders, 9 feet long. I use 6 pound test on my 5/6 weight panfish rod, and 12 pound test on my 7 weight bass rod.
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bpetersen
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| 07 Apr 2011 07:01 AM |
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Posted By bass or bass? on 06 Apr 2011 10:47 PM
I recommend using braided nylon fly line backing. Mono will get stiff, brittle, and coil as it ages, and since the fly line covers it , you will end up with degraded backing. The braid will be good for several seasons.
I also wouldn't recommend making your total leader length longer than your rod length. I fish only for panfish and bass, so I don't use tippet, and I only use regular mono for my leaders, 9 feet long. I use 6 pound test on my 5/6 weight panfish rod, and 12 pound test on my 7 weight bass rod.
Good tip on the backing man. I used mono for backing one time and only had trouble.
also make sure to straighten your leader after taking it out of the package. if not you may end up with a pile of coiled up leader after you lay down your cast instead of it straightening out. you can buy an inexpensive Fob type leader straightener or just run it through your fingers a few times. The heat from friction will warm up the material and help it straighten.
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traseley
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| 07 Apr 2011 07:01 PM |
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Thanks for all of the info and keep it coming if you have anything. I had a pretty bad set up the last couple of years and just pretty made up some knots to hold some mono onto the fly line. Never caught any trout though. This year I definitely want to get serious about this fly fishing so thank you for all of your help. |
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| 07 Apr 2011 10:14 PM |
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The Duncan loop is a very easy to tie knot and can be used to tie fly line to both the backing and the leader. I use it for both purposes and highly recommend it over any "gimmick" knot eliminators. It is tried and true and will not fail.
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| 08 Apr 2011 12:00 AM |
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Pegsguy
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| 08 Apr 2011 08:43 AM |
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Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the sole purpose of the tippet to allow you to re-tie multiple times without shortening your leader? Tom |
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| 08 Apr 2011 07:59 PM |
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Posted By Pegsguy on 08 Apr 2011 09:43 AM
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the sole purpose of the tippet to allow you to re-tie multiple times without shortening your leader? Tom
That is correct. |
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traseley
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| 10 Apr 2011 08:20 PM |
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Okay I bought everything I need. This info was very helpful thank you to everyone who helped. |
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