I hear ya, Ed   ...But I try ta humor him! 

For those that have never heard about our bash or seen pictures from it, I included a link from our third bash...

http://www.fishingclub.com/my-nafc/...818/afpg/2

Posted By ERABBIT on 14 Feb 2012 07:42 AM

Posted By turnip on 13 Feb 2012 03:01 PM
Right now I get the permit to support the fishery. But one of these days there are a couple of folks that I would like to charter with, until I learn the water.

Someone from N.Y. would/could never understand that Pete..............they would rather throw all there money's into a big pot then wonder how come the fishery is broke after raising fees and such.................... that is one of the most - best programs they ever came up with even thru I have never gave it a go or spend money to support it , if I wanted too I know that it would  ( the money) all go back into that fishery !!!.....

Here in NY every time the governor sucks more money out of us working people for this or that it never goes for this or that. The B@$+@^)$ ought to be tared and feathered. Since NY is one of the highest taxed states in the US, giving more money to the Government just rubs us the wrong way. Now see what you done, you've got me started. LOL

Frank, tell us how you really feel...

  LOL

Frank did you read where your guv was going to put the Fed money in the big OLE pot and the Fed said go ahead and that's the last you will get because those moneies ( the extra tax everyone pays on sporting goods ) that the Fed hands out to the states are ONLY for .............heck here it is read and weep !!!! Or hopfuly everyone it the state will wake up and break the gerneral fund pot !!!!


January 15, 2012, 6:32 AM


Federal fund-givers won’t budge on New York’s budget bugaboos.

It was reported last summer that funds the Department of Environmental Conservation receives from two federal programs will be withheld if state budget designations are not specifically changed to exclude funds government officials grant for fish and wildlife programs.

For decades, the federal government has collected billions of excise tax dollars for the sale of hunting gear through the Pittman-Robinson program and for the sale of fishing tackle through the Dingle-Johnson program.

A percentage payment must beadded to outdoors items from hooks to bullets to guns to boats. In return, the federal government assesses taxes collected and makes payments to each state. This year, payment totals to New York will be about $21 million, based on the number of sporting licenses sold in 2011.

However, Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s 2011-12 budget contains phrasings/ stipulations that suggest or indicate that DEC funds could be used elsewhere.

Federal guidelines for approving PR and DJ payments stress that those funds must be held in a dedicated fund for fish and wildlife needs only. Phrasing in Cuomo’s budget would allow the state’s Department of Budget to use Conservation Fund money for other state financial needs.

According to federal rules, states can neither use these grant funds in support of non-fish and wildlife efforts nor even borrow from the fund.

The interest of the U. S. Fish and Wildlife Service is to ensure states spend money specifically on outdoors-related projects. States can buy real estate (arable and marshland) for wildlife management use. They can construct additions and upgrades to boat ramps and hunting access sites. These projects are all OK with the feds, provided anglers and hunters have access and use of these facilities for part of the year.

Right now, Cuomo’s budget calculations do not meet U. S. Fish and Wildlife standards for grant approval. For now, DEC programs have not been affected; however, the loss of federal funds could be crippling and possibly curtailing essential DEC production sometime in 2012.

To check the sponsorship and status of Senate Bill S5921, a bill to exclude Conservation Fund money from the general fund, go to http:// www.open.nysenate.gov/ legislation/bill/S5921-2011.

Sporting groups and outdoors program coordinators statewide urge all to contact legislative representatives and Gov. Cuomo to address corrections in proposed budget designations that will comply with federal requirements for obtaining excise tax payments to New York.

To contact your Assembly representative, go to assembly. state. ny. us/leg/. For Senate contact information, go to nysenate.gov and in “Find My Senator,” enter your address and zip code number.Gov. Cuomo and all legislative contact data is posted on ny.gov.

Ya, I don't understand why the residents of NY put up with this crap...

I talked with Ohshapsaw (Dave) a bit ago he is hopping to have his camp opened up before the end of April if all goes as planned. I told him what we have in the works and would up-date him when we firm up a date. He gave me heck for pailing Pete out of the lost and found at Cablea's he said some time it's best to leave thing as they are...........................................I stuck up for ya Pete...........I think.............

Tanks Ed, your all heart!   I'm just wondering why ya had ta tell the sod buster for....geez, that means he might be up there at the same time!   LOL!   BTW, March 3rd is off the table...

Posted By turnip on 16 Feb 2012 12:41 PM
Tanks Ed, your all heart!   I'm just wondering why ya had ta tell the sod buster for....geez, that means he might be up there at the same time!   LOL!   BTW, March 3rd is off the table...

Your KILLING me Pete you keep taking dates OFF the table that NEVER were on the table...............maybe that OLE SodBuster has a GOOD point about you....................


Now I open camp on the 15th of April and want and need 5+ days to make sure nothing is broke and boat is running good. So the first open days would be : April 22nd at the earlyest !!!! Ok.................let get checking and lock some thing in for all three of us if we can............

Ya, ya....just giving ya a heads up on all dates!  Ya just never know!!!

Yea Ed, I know all about what the Gov. is up to. He wants mess with my retirement. NY retirement system is the only one in the US that is stable. I hope we can still say that when he gets done. BTW when you figure out what days Pete has on the table let me know.    

IF we do the LakeTrout Derby that would be .  May 25 (pre-fish),Derby 26,27,28. (noon on the 28th)
 IF we do a early deal looks like April 27 to when ever !!!!!!

Either one is fine with me..................

I'll check with Sue to make sure she hasn't committed me to something I don't know of. Snow is over Ice coming in tonight we got 6"

Let me double check my calendar...

Checked with Sue both dates are open at this time. It's up to you Pete!!!!

Ok, my schedule allows for me to arrive on the 25th and to depart any time on the 28th.   This will start my season!   And I'll let you two boogers know right up front, that I expect to catch a landlocked while I'm there  ...That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!    BTW, I will be doing my best to help win the Derby...

Ok, Pete does that mean you won't be touching the net.

And your point, Frank?!   The dates I listed above are for May...

Ok just a head-up guys.................Now the May deal is Tournment fishing , two things heavy fishing pressure and LONG day on the water.................also HOOT will be with us...........what a normal day in the past has been...............on the water at 6ish , bring food and drink fish for 6 to 10 hours come back in done for the day............clean fish take care of boat............next day same deal , next day till noon.