altered salmon
Last Post 30 Jan 2013 12:09 PM by allen_hoffman. 12 Replies.
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KCwormUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:28 KCworm
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24 Jan 2013 11:29 AM
    I got this link from my aunt and I thought it might be something our club might want to support. Maybe just on the web or perhaps an article in the magazine some time. Hope you find it as interesting as I did.
    Thanks,
    Life member,
    Ken Colombo

    Dear friends,



    The US is about to treat the world to the first genetically modified meat: a mutant salmon that could wipe out wild salmon populations and threaten human health. Unless we stop it, this Frankenfish could open the floodgates for biotech meat around the world. Click below to build 1 million voices to stop it:

     
    The US is about to treat the world to the first genetically modified meat: a mutant salmon that could wipe out wild salmon populations and threaten human health -- but we can stop it now before our plates are filled with suspicious Frankenfish.

    The new fake salmon grows twice as fast as the real one, and not even scientists know its long-term health effects. Yet it’s about to be declared safe for us to eat, based on studies paid for by the company that created the GMO creature! Luckily, the US is legally required to consider public opinion before deciding. A growing coalition of consumers, environmentalists, and fishermen is calling on the government to trash this fishy deal. Let's urgently build an avalanche of global support to help them win.

    The consultation is happening right now and we have a real chance to keep mutant fish off the menu. Sign to stop Frankenfish and share widely -- when we reach 1 million, our call will be officially submitted to the public consultation:

    http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_franke...db&v=21092" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_franke...db&v=21092

    The company that developed the Frankenfish altered the DNA of the salmon to create a fish that would grow at lightning speed, year-round. Not only do we not understand its long term health effects, if a few of them or their eggs reached the wild, these super-salmon could decimate entire wild salmon populations. Worse, once they hit supermarkets, we won’t be able to tell apart Frankenfish and real salmon, so there won’t be a way to avoid it!

    The biotech industry has spent hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying governments to approve its GM crops. Frankenfish is their next million dollar baby -- it could open the floodgates for other transgenic meats. But the US government will consider public opinion before it makes its final decision -- if we can stun them with a giant global opposition when they least expect it, we can stop this reckless deal.

    Frankenfish is on the verge of being approved -- let’s make sure biotech companies don't decide what we eat. Help build one million voices to stop the mutant fish:

    http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_franke...db&v=21092" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_franke...db&v=21092

    Avaaz members have come together to protect the natural world and our food system from dangerous meddling. In 2010, over 1 million of us spoke out against genetically modified food in Europe. Let’s come together again to stop Frankenfish.

    With hope,

    Jamie, Nick, Emma, Dalia, Emily, Paul, Ricken, Wen-Hua and the whole Avaaz team

    MORE INFORMATION

    Engineered Fish Moves a Step Closer to Approval (NY Times)
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/22/b...roval.html

    GM salmon: FDA's assessment of environmental risks (LA Times)
    http://www.latimes.com/health/boost...4480.story

    Genetically Modified Animals (Women’s Health Magazine)
    http://www.womenshealthmag.com/nutr...ed-animals

    Protect our waters from GE Salmon (Center for Food Safety)
    http://ge-fish.org/

    Below the Surface: The Dangers of Genetically Engineered Salmon (Food & Water Watch)
    http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/fa...e-surface/

    Genetically Engineered Salmon (Ocean Conservancy)
    http://www.oceanconservancy.org/our...cally.html



    allen_hoffmanUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:57 allen_hoffman
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    24 Jan 2013 07:46 PM
    Genetically engineered Atlantic Salmon have been farmed on the Pacific coast now, for several years. From time to time, some do excape from thier pens, and are caught in the wild!
    Inviros seem to make alota ta do about nothing!! I defy anybody to show any documentation, that these excaped fish have in any way  caused a problem to the invornment, or other fisherys, in any way, shape or form!
    Allen
    ROD TENDERUser is Offline Advanced Poster Advanced Poster Send Private Message Posts:722 ROD TENDER
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    24 Jan 2013 08:12 PM
    It's interesting , however like Allen hoffman stated fish farming is not new. Most of the catfish you see in the stores now days is farm raised , I saw a show on TV were a guy in Florida has started farming tilapia and have seen farm raised salmon at my local store

    Thanks for sharing this info with us and Welcome to the Club guy  take some time and look around the web site there's alot of great info here ,videos, contests, online magizine, fishing informer, make sure you sign up to become a field tester. and check them out on facebook and twitter
    best of luck to both of you this year on the water

    " Life is God's gift to us...what we do with our life is our gift to God"
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    Jerry K.
    KCwormUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:28 KCworm
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    25 Jan 2013 08:39 AM
    Thanks guys I thought it was a bigger deal than that. It's hard to tell the truth when ever you are listening to an extreme group. That's why I threw it out to the club. Glad I don't have to worry about eating the salmon.
    Kenny
    allen_hoffmanUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:57 allen_hoffman
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    26 Jan 2013 02:21 AM
    Of course, we would rather ya ate our good fresh wild caught salmon, much better for ya, however it has gotten to a point were the average guy can't afford to buy a nice fillet of Chinook!!
    Due to the the food, that is fed farm raised fish, unlike wild fish, were the fish oil has a good and benificial cholestol, the fish oil in farmed fish, is more similar to the fat of farmed meats, and is not benificial But, the average guy can afford to buy it!
    bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
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    26 Jan 2013 11:47 AM
    There is not only a world of difference, but a galaxy of difference between normally farmed fish like catfish and tilapia which are raised normally, and the genetically modified  salmon in question here. They have been created by splicing genes from salmon and some other species, something that would NEVER have existed in nature. Do you really want to eat frankenfish? Monsanto corporation is doing the same thing with corn and other grains in an effort to control the worlds food supply. These genetically engineered grains cannot produce their own seed so farmers must repeatedly purchase seed from Monsanto. BEWARE GM FOODS! Not enough research has been done to determine the long term effects of genetically modified foods.
    Phoenix Arizona ~Outdoor-Fishing~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~
    AZAllenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2407 AZAllen
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    26 Jan 2013 01:47 PM
    Genetic engineering is a whole nother workd from "farming" fish and I do not know what the affect would be. One way to get fish which grow faster is "triploiding", this is something which does sometimes occour naturally. Triploiding causes sterility and the fish spend no energy on eggs, milt or the effort to spawn which allows them to grow larger, faster. I sometimes think this might be a good idea for a pure catch and release fishery, then the carryovers might really get big.
    NAFC, NAHC, NRA, SASS, Viet Nam Vet. Bullhead City, AZ
    AZAllenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2407 AZAllen
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    26 Jan 2013 01:50 PM
    Forgot to mention that one of the things they have done is to try to integrate genes from Bacillius Thuringenses (sp?) whidh is a natural pesticide into corn, unfortunately, It also increases the chances of an allergic reaction to the procuct.
    NAFC, NAHC, NRA, SASS, Viet Nam Vet. Bullhead City, AZ
    AZAllenUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:2407 AZAllen
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    26 Jan 2013 01:50 PM
    Forgot to mention that one of the things they have done is to try to integrate genes from Bacillius Thuringenses (sp?) whidh is a natural pesticide into corn, unfortunately, It also increases the chances of an allergic reaction to the procuct.
    NAFC, NAHC, NRA, SASS, Viet Nam Vet. Bullhead City, AZ
    skewlUser is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1006 skewl
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    27 Jan 2013 05:31 PM
    I personally don't see a problem with the genetically altered salmon from a sportsman's point of view. The fish are sterile, so if they escape there's no environmental harm done as the fish will die in a couple of years maximum. Also, something to note is the language used in the reports, meant to sound worse than it actually is. FrankenFish sounds a lot worse than a genetically modified salmon. Just a point of interest for me personally.
    allen_hoffmanUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:57 allen_hoffman
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    27 Jan 2013 10:03 PM
    I do agree with ya skew, however, the fear is, that if these rearing pens do break up, and we do end up with thousand of these fish loose, that they will compete with our wildstock for food, perticularly our steelhead. Atlantic salmon, more like a trout then a salmon, do not die on spawning, and can live 5--6 years!  I have read reports were many have excaped the pens, however, we have not documented more then a couple dozen being caught by sports fishing.. We really have no way of knowing how many have been caught by commercial fishermen
    Allen
    bass or bass?User is Offline Veteran Poster Veteran Poster Send Private Message Posts:1578 bass or bass?
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    29 Jan 2013 05:47 PM
    Soylent Green is next on the menu then!
    Phoenix Arizona ~Outdoor-Fishing~N.A.F.C.~B.A.S.S.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~A.M.A.~
    allen_hoffmanUser is Offline New Poster New Poster Send Private Message Posts:57 allen_hoffman
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    30 Jan 2013 12:09 PM
    Yaaa, but that aught to be good for ya, because so far, they haven't done any genetic engeneering on us---to be used for food!
    Alen
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